Current U.K. law on up plating has been changed WITHOUT consultation

[Jonno1103]

Current U.K. law on up plating has been changed WITHOUT consultation.

When up plating from 3500kg RFL will continue to be £365 pa. IT IS NOT being reduced to the PHG rate of £165.

Secondly, the DVLA are no longer changing the V5c to illustrate your new weight. The MTPLM will remain at 3500kg. This means that if your motorhome is detected on road installed Weight In Motion Sensors - WIMS, you WILL be classed as overweight. Currently there is no plan to prosecute although you will receive a letter advising you of weight limits etc.

This legislation is causing a great deal of harm to companies such as SvTech who are currently in constant communication with HMG and it is fully expected to be escalated and discussed on the floor in the House of Commons.

However, one of the reasons why in the short term this is in force is due to the EU's 4th directive and once in place will mean that RFL will illustrate the new entry weight limit. Vans & Moho's will need to be over 4250kg in order to qualify for the reduced RFL.

The Fourth Directive...

The EU will ratify this and it will be in force from January 2025. This means that drivers with post 1997 licences can drive upto 4250kg whether EV or ICE powered. Licences will become digital and some medicals will be self assessment.

Current information from Downing Street strongly suggests that the U.K.'s original stance was to also adopt this following an announcement during the March 2025 budget. The U.K. has historically adopted the first 3 directives and will also adopt No4.

There is now however a strong suggestion that this will be announced during the late October budget and will be in place for newly registered motohomes from March 1st.

This is of course still to be confirmed.

 

[RowleyBirkinQC]

This is going to sound weird to some of you, but I am not that interested in the Road Tax aspect. We are already being robbed, so a little more doesn't bother me.

My chief interest is that my bus is a 3500 chassis, but we upped the tyres to 225 and installed semi air on the rear axle, which is all that is needed to up-plate to 3850.
The only thing that is stopping me doing it, is that Mrs DDJC has a 1999 licence so hasn't C1. Currently we can both drive it, if up-plated, its only me.

So for me, the more interesting things by far is:

that the Germans are increasing their Cat B MTPM weight from 3500 to 4250, and that the EU is likely to follow suit? (And how out of step would the UK look, if they stubbornly didn't do the same?)
and
what the logic is of NOT updating the V5 where there is an up-plated MTPM? Without a new V5, Monsieur le Gendarme or Signor agente di polizia, is still gonna slap a fine on you, or make you offload your vintage anvil collection, or both.

We’re in a similar position, but yet to order the rear semi air and new front coils to get to 4000. Fingers crossed…

 

[DDJC]

We’re in a similar position, but yet to order the rear semi air and new front coils to get to 4000. Fingers crossed…

I would say get the suspension now. The difference in stability on the road, was, for us, literally amazing.

 

[Puddleduck]

This is going to sound weird to some of you, but I am not that interested in the Road Tax aspect. We are already being robbed, so a little more doesn't bother me.

I agree. If I can afford to run a motorhome I can afford an increase in RFL.

 

[WallaceandGromit]

Not bothered about the RFL don't pay it OH has a blue badge and the toad is only £20, so MH is the disabled vehicle

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[sedge]

I'm not surprised. With an engine that size, a jet pilot's licence would be more appropriate.

True - but as it was blatantly obviously a daft mistake on my part and everyone knows damn well what I meant - why on earth waste forum space by mentioning it?

 

[Northernraider]

I agree. If I can afford to run a motorhome I can afford an increase in RFL.

Speak for yourself . I pay £165 I would never buy a motorhome under 3500kg and pay over £300 a year roadtax. Especially as I spend 6 months outwith the UK and still pay tax.

So if they change my ved...like the TV licence I'll no be paying it.

There'll be a "tax in post " disc on the feckin windie

 

[Minxy]

When up plating from 3500kg RFL will continue to be £365 pa. IT IS NOT being reduced to the PHG rate of £165.

Can you please put a link to any official documentation regarding this as I cannot find a thing about it anywhere.