The resurrection of Doc, bringing a 20 year old neismann Bischoff Flair back to life after 12 years off road.

[Northernraider]

Tam / Lenny is this what you were thinking of for the heat exchanger?View attachment 956391

I wasn't lol. It's uncle Lenny HB thats on about electric. I'm happy to reach down and turn it by hand once every 6 months lol. Winter on ,summer off .

 

[Lenny HB]

I was thinking of one like this.

 

[Dutch 68]

I wasn't lol. It's uncle Lenny HB thats on about electric. I'm happy to reach down and turn it by hand once every 6 months lol. Winter on ,summer off .

The issue is finding a quality valve, otherwise it will leak every year, the cheap ones are pure garbage

 

[andyjc]

https://www.screwfix.com/p/pegler-pb500-compression-full-bore-1-2-lever-ball-valve-with-red-handle/1961v

Good quality valves

 

[L' Hobo]

Tell you what Tam

that’s looks bloody lovely, it’s a classy looking motorhome mate and I hope it serves you well for many years to come.

Tell Gary i’m looking for a similar one and driving straight down to Cornwall so shuftie over a bit.

Can I go on the reserve list after you, I'm beginning to need someone younger and fitter!

Gary might be able to claim carers fee's for helping me?

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[Northernraider]

The issue is finding a quality valve, otherwise it will leak every year, the cheap ones are pure garbage

Well the one that's on it hasn't been changed every year .

 

[bigtree]

Only 32° here today ( still in the van going from tree to tree )
Glad we are not having jobs to do, it's bad enough just keeping cool. Bob.

Where.

 

[gus-lopez]

https://www.screwfix.com/p/pegler-pb500-compression-full-bore-1-2-lever-ball-valve-with-red-handle/1961v

Good quality valves

I thought that 3€ was dear for them here.

 

[Dutch 68]

It’s ok until you open or close the valve after a prolonged time in one position, I agree with you manual is just fine but only if you can find a good quality version

Well the one that's on it hasn't been changed every year .

after

 

[andyjc]

I thought that 3€ was dear for them here.

You could probably buy 10 (Chinese) for same price on eBay

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[Northernraider]

I bought one the same as currently fitted on ebay for £3.50 . It'll do the job

 

[JockandRita]

Hi Jock, we're you able to get the glass units(s) locally or we're they bought from overseas? Thank you. K

Hi there. As previously answered to A.N. Other enquirer, a friend of a friend sourced the glass for me, though you can get your existing double glazed units repaired, or made up as new here in the UK. HTH.

Well the one that's on it hasn't been changed every year .

And as far as I know, ours is still the original.
I checked ours out today Tam, having forgotten to turn it off for the summer. It closed and opened again but with a little stiffness, but a wee spray on the base of the shaft with silicone, definitely made it easier.

BTW, did you get my PM re your battery box?

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Northernraider]

Hi there. As previously answered to A.N. Other enquirer, a friend of a friend sourced the glass for me, though you can get your existing double glazed units repaired, or made up as new here in the UK. HTH.


And as far as I know, ours is still the original.
I checked ours out today Tam, having forgotten to turn it off for the summer. It closed and opened again but with a little stiffness, but a wee spray on the base of the shaft with silicone, definitely made it easier.

BTW, did you get my PM re your battery box?

Cheers,

Jock.

Hang on I'll check

 

[Flairy]

Mines original so it’s been on since 2001

 

[125BEER]

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Cheeky.....

Cheers

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[bobandjanie]

Where.

Segorbe yesterday, parked on the free aire at Geldo cloudy today only 29° and moving on home in a week, been out since before Easter. Bob.

Área de autocaravanas Geldo · Av. Castellón, 12, 12412 Geldo, Castellón, Spain

★★★★☆ · Mobile Home Park

maps.app.goo.gl

 

[jumartoo]

Jade & Ella thinking " **** me does it never stop raining? get us back to Greece"

Jade and Milo are Spanish.

 

[Northernraider]

It's fecking windy and freezing here today so a perfect day to test my heating out.

Can check for leaks etc.

 

[nabsim]

It's fecking windy and freezing here today so a perfect day to test my heating out.

Can check for leaks etc.

Same up on the coast in East Riding. Diesel heater doing a grand job

 

[Northernraider]

Jees well after 45 minutes it's feckin melting In here . I've had to turn it off as feeling sick. So no leaks as far as I can see and it gets lovely and toasty.

I'm impressed how quiet it is , you can't hear the pump at all unless you lift the hatch where the boiler is. Not as hot in the rear of the van as it gets in the front . Maybe needs bled .

Gets warm everywhere though even in the garage . My tool cupboard gets very warm . Dogs are gonna love that in the colder weather as floor gets warm too.


So I want to carry a spare bottle of alde fluid just in case . Looking on ebay there's two types g12 and g13

Is there any difference and do I need a particular one?

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[Abacist]

Jees well after 45 minutes it's feckin melting In here . I've had to turn it off as feeling sick. So no leaks as far as I can see and it gets lovely and toasty.

I'm impressed how quiet it is , you can't hear the pump at all unless you lift the hatch where the boiler is. Not as hot in the rear of the van as it gets in the front . Maybe needs bled .

Gets warm everywhere though even in the garage . My tool cupboard gets very warm . Dogs are gonna love that in the colder weather as floor gets warm too.


So I want to carry a spare bottle of alde fluid just in case . Looking on ebay there's two types g12 and g13

Is there any difference and do I need a particular one?

I have G13 in mine which is the premium stuff that lasts 5 years.

I imagine G12 is the short life stuff.

Important to see what colour your fluid is.

If it’s blue it’s short life of 2 years.

If pink it’s long life for 5 years.

 

[Northernraider]

I have G13 in mine which is the premium stuff that lasts 5 years.

I imagine G12 is the short life stuff.

Important to see what colour your fluid is.

If it’s blue it’s short life of 2 years.

If pink it’s long life for 5 years.

I think mine is blue .

I read on the listing for the g13 that it can be added to either colour.

I don't need any at the minute as it's got the right amount in but best to carry a spare one.

 

[mackeellan]

Carry the cheapest Tam, just in case, and until you're sure it's staying in the system

 

[Mikey RV]

I would get it changed to pink (lasts five years) Tam unless you know how long it’s been in there. You should find bleed nipples all over the van if you look for them. Alde heating is great.

 

[Rogerwyn]

I think mine is blue .

I read on the listing for the g13 that it can be added to either colour.

I don't need any at the minute as it's got the right amount in but best to carry a spare one.

Unless water has been added the the antifreeze should be ok the main reason they advise to change is the inhibitor that stops implosion in the heater, I used to use a tester when I had a caravan and the inhibitor was ok even after 7y

Tester Corrosion Inhibitor Precise Measurement Tool Dial Type Antifreeze

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[Northernraider]

Carry the cheapest Tam, just in case, and until you're sure it's staying in the system

Both the same price on ebay £15 a bottle.

Think I'll get the g13 one as it says can be added to both.

I would get it changed to pink (lasts five years) Tam unless you know how long it’s been in there. You should find bleed nipples all over the van if you look for them. Alde heating is great.

Yes I can see the bleed valves everywhere .

It's probably not been changed in a long time and not used in a long time either. As I am very rarely in serious low climates I'm going to leave well alone there for now but will put a fluid change on my list for being done later . I'll carry a spare just incase when I am using it a lot I discover or develop any leaks .

I'm keen to experience it being worked off the engine when travelling this year as I've not had that before.

 

[Northernraider]

Unless water has been added the the antifreeze should be ok the main reason they advise to change is the inhibitor that stops implosion in the heater, I used to use a tester when I had a caravan and the inhibitor was ok even after 7y

Tester Corrosion Inhibitor Precise Measurement Tool Dial Type Antifreeze

This has every chance of having been in there a good 12 years or more. But its unlikely to freeze in my ownership as I'm out of the coldest weather usually. I'll have it changed later but for now I don't want to tempt fate tampering with it as I don't know what I'm doing.

 

[funflair]

Jees well after 45 minutes it's feckin melting In here . I've had to turn it off as feeling sick. So no leaks as far as I can see and it gets lovely and toasty.

I'm impressed how quiet it is , you can't hear the pump at all unless you lift the hatch where the boiler is. Not as hot in the rear of the van as it gets in the front . Maybe needs bled .

Gets warm everywhere though even in the garage . My tool cupboard gets very warm . Dogs are gonna love that in the colder weather as floor gets warm too.


So I want to carry a spare bottle of alde fluid just in case . Looking on ebay there's two types g12 and g13

Is there any difference and do I need a particular one?

Hi Tam

I think your circulation pump will be a little tiny one on the top of the expansion tanks in the wardrobe, they don't last forever but a lazy one can be started by taking it out of the tank and spinning the impeller and then back into the tanks, you are right though the whole system is very quiet, what you might be hearing under the floor is the Alde exhaust fan when it's running on gas.

I will add that there is a 3 way valve to turn the bedroom and garage circuits off.

 

[Al n Val]

You can add pink to blue but not vice versa Tam, i’d advise you as well when replacing the fluid to let Alde do it.

Reasons being the full system gets a service/overall, pressure tested and anything you don’t know, they do, and it will be thoroughly explained to you.

Admitted I take onboard what you’ve said previously regarding being in hotter climates.

They did mine in July and it’s sorted now until 2019 so peace of mind

 

[Northernraider]

Hi Tam

I think your circulation pump will be a little tiny one on the top of the expansion tanks in the wardrobe, they don't last forever but a lazy one can be started by taking it out of the tank and spinning the impeller and then back into the tanks, you are right though the whole system is very quiet, what you might be hearing under the floor is the Alde exhaust fan when it's running on gas.

I will add that there is a 3 way valve to turn the bedroom and garage circuits off.

Yes I found that valve Martin it's on the radiator at the foot of the bed

And yes I think it was the exhaust I was hearing as it was louder in the bathroom too and the exhaust escape is on the wall behind bathroom cabinet

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