MOBY GOES TO TURKEY. A tam and pups adventure.

[Langtoftlad]

I don't suppose it's conceivable that this Ablemail (never heard of one until this thread ) is somehow sucking juice out of the vehicle battery whilst the engine is running ???
I can't begin to imagine how that might happen but now you've had a replacement alternator which appears to be working, how is anything a big enough drain to flatten the battery whilst driving.

Kerry was allowed half a Paracetamol twice for one day when she had her dental... she's about 25kg.
Is Jade actually in pain, can you lift her ok?
I'd be cautious about giving Paracetamol if no indication of pain.
Does she get in & out of the van OK, squat for the toilet etc?
Does she object if you rub her back, can you 'manipulate' her back legs without her "objecting" ?

 

[Northernraider]

I don't suppose it's conceivable that this Ablemail (never heard of one until this thread ) is somehow sucking juice out of the vehicle battery whilst the engine is running ???
I can't begin to imagine how that might happen but now you've had a replacement alternator which appears to be working, how is anything a big enough drain to flatten the battery whilst driving.

Kerry was allowed half a Paracetamol twice for one day when she had her dental... she's about 25kg.
Is Jade actually in pain, can you lift her ok?
I'd be cautious about giving Paracetamol if no indication of pain.
Does she get in & out of the van OK, squat for the toilet etc?
Does she object if you rub her back, can you 'manipulate' her back legs without her "objecting" ?

If you lift her a certain way she squeals and cries. It's hard to tell what hurts though as I can rub her tummy legs etc , won't let me near her tail , but if I lift her by scooping hands under her sometimes she's OK and other times she cries. She let's out a squeak if she tries to jump up or down too.


As for the ablemail it's actually putting charge in to the battery not taking it out. It was even doing it when the engine was running earlier which is why its confusing. Its like the alternator is powering everything else but just isn't charging the battery.

 

[TUCANO]

Great photos Tam thanks, the idea of walking down that tunnel as a gladiator towards almost certain death, I'd have died of fright before l got there.

 

[Langtoftlad]

Poor Jade, sounds like she has strained or knocked something.
For quite awhile after her stairs incident, Kerry used to give a little yelp when getting up from her bed.
Kerry's a wuss though.

 

[Boldly]

If you lift her a certain way she squeals and cries. It's hard to tell what hurts though as I can rub her tummy legs etc , won't let me near her tail , but if I lift her by scooping hands under her sometimes she's OK and other times she cries. She let's out a squeak if she tries to jump up or down too.


As for the ablemail it's actually putting charge in to the battery not taking it out. It was even doing it when the engine was running earlier which is why its confusing. Its like the alternator is powering everything else but just isn't charging the battery.

Sounds like a dodgy earth on the battery if the alternator seems to be powering everything else.

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[bigtwin]

Sounds like a dodgy earth on the battery if the alternator seems to be powering everything else.

That was my thinking too.

Ian

 

[Boldly]

Sounds radical I know but do you carry a battery charger you could run from your inverter. Get a bit of charge in and then disconnect as Raul suggested.

 

[Northernraider]

Sounds radical I know but do you carry a battery charger you could run from your inverter. Get a bit of charge in and then disconnect as Raul suggested.

The ablemail is trickle charging it at the minute

 

[BobJayne]

Polarsteps shows him located in Matera.

 

[scotzsue]

Amazing how things change, re medications for both humans and animals, our german shepherd had arthritis in one of her legs, after an injury as a puppy, we were prescribed ibuprofen by the vet and told not to give paracetamol. Haven't got them mixed up as son was suspected of having juvenile arthritis and they shared his medication
Hope you get it all sorted out ok Tam.

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[Northernraider]

Polarsteps shows him located in Matera.

Who was asking that?

I said earlier I'd arrived in matera

 

[Northernraider]

Sounds like a dodgy earth on the battery if the alternator seems to be powering everything else.

You would think the garage would have checked that when they had it on the ramp though.

 

[Boldly]

You would think the garage would have checked that when they had it on the ramp though.

You would but who knows?

 

[Barclaybasher]

The van started after you called AA - battery not dead? does sound like a dodgy connection - battery or starter?

 

[Raul]

The van started after you called AA - battery not dead? does sound like a dodgy connection - battery or starter?

Maybe, but I think the abelmail had a chance to put enough charge from leisure battery to start.

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[Northernraider]

You would but who knows?

Yep its why I don't trust garages. Everytime I go near one I end up with more feckin problems.

 

[Boldly]

You would but who knows?

Maybe made a good connection when on the ramp. Vibrated loose again when driven? You need someone to wiggle wires while you check voltage. Very difficult to do intermittent diagnosis on your own

 

[Northernraider]

The van started after you called AA - battery not dead? does sound like a dodgy connection - battery or starter?

Just the ablemail raising the voltage from the leisure battery.

 

[MichaelT]

Yep its why I don't trust garages. Everytime I go near one I end up with more feckin problems.

It all seemed to work perfectly till uncle Lenny HB got involved, just saying

 

[Onemanandhisdog]

Maybe you have a dead cell in the starter battery, it takes a gentle charge from the ablemail but doesn't like the big shot from the alternator, I don't even know if that's possible but it's a good theory in my head

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[Boldly]

I think by now the able mail will have put enough in. I would do as Raul says disconnect and take a voltage reading do the same when you wake up and take it from there

 

[Northernraider]

Maybe, but I think the abelmail had a chance to put enough charge from leisure battery to start.

Yep that's what happened. Same thing happened the first time it happened on Sunday when it wouldn't start at the petrol station. The battery hasn't went below 11.5v , the ablemail just needs to get it to 12.2v and it will start. But then the alternator doesn't seem to be charging the battery. Although it's obviously running the fridge 12v , the b2b , powering lights , satnav, stereo etc etc . Just not putting charge in to the starter battery. Even with engine running the highest voltage I get putting voltmeter on battery terminals is 12.9v .. why am I not getting 14+v

 

[bigtree]

I love the Roman ruins, always search them out wherever I'am. Have got the Antonine wall less than a mile from me, not much to see apart from a section of the roman baths that were beside the fort which there is nothing left of.

 

[Lenny HB]

Maybe you have a dead cell in the starter battery, it takes a gentle charge from the ablemail but doesn't like the big shot from the alternator, I don't even know if that's possible but it's a good theory in my head

If a cell was open circuit it would be completely dead if a shorted cell the voltage would be around 10 - 11 volts. Having been flattened a few times could be sulfated up giving a partial short on a cell.

 

[Boldly]

Yep that's what happened. Same thing happened the first time it happened on Sunday when it wouldn't start at the petrol station. The battery hasn't went below 11.5v , the ablemail just needs to get it to 12.2v and it will start. But then the alternator doesn't seem to be charging the battery. Although it's obviously running the fridge 12v , the b2b , powering lights , satnav, stereo etc etc . Just not putting charge in to the starter battery. Even with engine running the highest voltage I get putting voltmeter on battery terminals is 12.9v .. why am I not getting 14+v

On one post you said you were getting 14 volts I think before new alternator

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[Minxy]

Tam, not sure if you saw the thread I did about Lily, might not have done as I think it was in the U-shaped lounge, so here's a photo of my little cherub when she was enjoying her grub!

 

[Northernraider]

On one post you said you were getting 14 volts I think before new alternator

I can't remember the last time I saw 14v on the starter battery.

 

[Minxy]

I don't know much about cab electrics etc but could it be the leads leading to/from the battery and alternator/starter that are faulty? Eg a broken cable in them which sometimes 'touches' to allow it to start and other times not?

 

[Northernraider]

I don't know much about cab electrics etc but could it be the leads leading to/from the battery and alternator/starter that are faulty? Eg a broken cable in them which sometimes 'touches' to allow it to start and other times not?

No idea , this van has the biggest cables I've ever seen going to the battery. They're huge. But I can't see where the earth lead attaches to , it must be on the chassis somewhere but under the van .

I'm annoyed that the garage never checked all them before changing the alternator like I asked them too. They basically did the same as I did , put voltmeter on battery terminals when engine was running and as it was under 13v they guessed the alternator was knackered. But its still doing that anyway.

 

[Lenny HB]

I don't know much about cab electrics etc but could it be the leads leading to/from the battery and alternator/starter that are faulty? Eg a broken cable in them which sometimes 'touches' to allow it to start and other times not?

With the amount of starting current needed that wouldn't happen.

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