MOBY GOES TO TURKEY. A tam and pups adventure.

You can obviously tell me to do one but on my wife’s and my first trip to Turkey, in a car, my son said to me “if something goes wrong just throw money at it”

That’s what you (by default, have to) do when you don’t know what you’re doing. Tam, and his technical support network, do know how to diagnose the problem step by step.👍

The problem is taking longer to solve largely because Tam is travelling daily.

Ian
 
A friend of ours is a vet and said we could give our dog 1/2 paracetamol twice a day safely. It certainly helped. Our daughter has given that dose to her border terrier which looks a similar size to Jade. Hope it helps her
Yes, for our 11kg dog, a quarter 1/4, of one 500 mg paracetamol advised. The person whom I am not allowed to mention 😉 said can give the dose every 4 hours if necessary.
 
I feel for you buddy, if you found a space for tonight, disconnect the starter completely and take a voltage reading. If on it’s own steam by the morning reads low, the battery is done. If it reads close to what you measured tonight, it means you have a hidden discharge that takes the battery down. Fingers crossed you don’t need a new one.
 
That’s what you (by default, have to) do when you don’t know what you’re doing. Tam, and his technical support network, do know how to diagnose the problem step by step.👍

The problem is taking longer to solve largely because Tam is travelling daily.

Ian
I think you should have put my whole message in your response instead of taking phrases out of context.
Did you read the whole post?
 
So I made it to matera at least . I'm parked up on a quiet street behind the football stadium. I googled and there was a euromaster and a few car parts places not far from me that close at 7.30pm but its now 6.30pm and I'm hungry the dogs need walked and the van is completely dead. So I'm leaving it till morning. The ablemail battery maintainer is doing its thing again trying to charge the starter battery. It's been doing that even when the engine is running . With the engine running when I stopped here I put voltmeter on my battery and it read 11.7v so my head is baked what's going on . I've been on the phone with uncle lenny but even he us confused whats going on with it. I think I'm just going to have to put a new battery on it tomorrow and hope that's it. But I'm not feeling overly confident. I've never encountered a vehicle that didn't read over 14v at the battery with engine running. Obviously the alternator is working or I wouldn't have had lights etc driving here after the battery was dead. But I don't understand the voltages. I sincerely hope I haven't had a new alternator fitted and there was nothing wrong with the old one. That's my worry , I replace alternator, battery etc and the fault lies elsewhere. I'm at the stage where if a battery doesn't fix it I think a match might lol. I'm absolutely fed up.

I think uncle lenny is fed up too.


Anyway I'm off to take dogs a little walk then make some food . I'll post up pics from the amphitheatre etc later once I've eaten.
 
It's his big dog Ela who needs it not Milo.
Sorry I thought it was Jade the middle size one. My standard poodle has a whole tablet when needed. I was also told to never give ibuprofen to dogs as it is not suitable. Just my opinion and I was told this by a vet. I do t like to think of Jade being in discomfort or pain.

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I used to work for farmers & the technical director & one of the owners, ,although as tight as a drum, had the attitude that money solved everything.
Not everything thing of course but definitely material things,my go to phrase when thing go wrong “ You can always get it sorted with money” and it works anywhere generally.
 
Sorry I thought it was Jade the middle size one. My standard poodle has a whole tablet when needed. I was also told to never give ibuprofen to dogs as it is not suitable. Just my opinion and I was told this by a vet. I do t like to think of Jade being in discomfort or pain.
It is, it's Jade.
 
Not everything thing of course but definitely material things,my go to phrase when thing go wrong “ You can always get it sorted with money” and it works anywhere generally.
Yep but it helps if you have an endless supply of it


Which I don't
 
Good luck tomorrow Tam, l reckon that battery has taken a hell of bashing and eventually they simply fall off a cliff at a moment’s notice.
You will be sorted tomorrow.
Here's hoping

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Thanks to those who gave the information on the paracetamol for jade who is approximately 10/11 kg ...I'll crush half a tablet up in her dinner and see if it helps
Well, maybe 1/4 for Jade. I found that it was best given separately in a bit of cheese or something so you know taken. If you give 1/2, no more tonight.
 
Sorry I thought it was Jade the middle size one. My standard poodle has a whole tablet when needed. I was also told to never give ibuprofen to dogs as it is not suitable. Just my opinion and I was told this by a vet. I do t like to think of Jade being in discomfort or pain.
I'm sorry it was me who got it wrong. You are right(y)
 
I feel for you buddy, if you found a space for tonight, disconnect the starter completely and take a voltage reading. If on it’s own steam by the morning reads low, the battery is done. If it reads close to what you measured tonight, it means you have a hidden discharge that takes the battery down. Fingers crossed you don’t need a new one.
The problem is he can't really do that until he is parked up somewhere for a couple of days., so he has a chance to get some charge into it if goes too low. That would have been the next step until it just died again.
Hopping the battery has had it and that's why the volts aren't coming up with the alternator running.
Tam is fretting because he is wondering if the old alternator was OK. I'm fairly certain there was a problem with it as there was an output on the D+ at tickover but it went off when the reves increased so looked like there was a problem with the regulator.
 
I would temporarily disconnect the b2b and abelmail, then re connect one at the time maybe after 1-2hrs driving, and see what changes That way you can see what’s happening
 
I would temporarily disconnect the b2b and abelmail, then re connect one at the time maybe after 1-2hrs driving, and see what changes That way you can see what’s happening
Battery is flat at the moment relying on the Ablemail to charge it so he can start in the morning. If it doesn't I'll get him to connect a cable direct between the batteries for a couple of hours I know he has some 10 mm sq on board but it worked last night with the ablemail.

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The problem is he can't really do that until he is parked up somewhere for a couple of days., so he has a chance to get some charge into it if goes too low. That would have been the next step until it just died again.
Hopping the battery has had it and that's why the volts aren't coming up with the alternator running.
Tam is fretting because he is wondering if the old alternator was OK. I'm fairly certain there was a problem with it as there was an output on the D+ at tickover but it went off when the reves increased so looked like there was a problem with the regulator.
If he stays put tonight, he can disconnect the starter batt for couple of hrs. If it’s a dud, the voltage it will fall of the cliff pronto. All he needs to figure out, it’s starting the van with the help of of the hab batt to get going to the shop. If he lives the abelmail on, it may help to start, but, it will hide a potential knackered starter.
That’s what I would do. Even two wires from hab to starter, sit 20-30 mins, then you will be able to start with a dud up front.
 
Well, maybe 1/4 for Jade. I found that it was best given separately in a bit of cheese or something so you know taken. If you give 1/2, no more tonight.
Too late I gave her 1/2 a 500mg tablet in a but cheese so I know she's had it.
 
If he stays put tonight, he can disconnect the starter batt for couple of hrs. If it’s a dud, the voltage it will fall of the cliff pronto. All he needs to figure out, it’s starting the van with the help of of the hab batt to get going to the shop. If he lives the abelmail on, it may help to start, but, it will hide a potential knackered starter.
That’s what I would do. Even two wires from hab to starter, sit 20-30 mins, then you will be able to start with a dud up front.
I can't face messing around with it again tonight . I'm as drained as the battery . I'm just going to leave it till the morning and try to get a new battery.
 
Too late I gave her 1/2 a 500mg tablet in a but cheese so I know she's had it.
It will be fine. It’s the total amount over the 24 hours that counts, rather like with humans. Hope it eases her a bit so that you can get your ferry and then see a vet in Greece. I think we will all breath a sigh of relief with you when you get there.
 
I can't face messing around with it again tonight . I'm as drained as the battery . I'm just going to leave it till the morning and try to get a new battery.
They should be able to do drop test to check for certain before you part with your hard earned.

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The amphitheatre I was parked near last night. Its claimed this is the second biggest only beaten by the colosseum, sadly its not in as well preserved condition. €3.50 to get in but unfortunately could only view the arena from outside the fence. But could under neath where the cells etc were .
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Quite liked this old mk1 iveco motorhome, one piece fibreglass body I think.


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Actually it might be a mk2 it has the same wheels and lights etc as mine.

Shoulda pinched his battery
 
Our Lily was originally given liquid painkillers by our vet (at great cost!) and upon researching it I found out it was the same as the stuff given to kiddies, ie liquid paracetamol, like Calpol etc which are just brand names. Lily was prescribed it due to having some mild pain but nothing serious however it was a good way to give her pain relief when she needed it as trying to force a tablet down her throat wasn't easy and she usually spat them out so we had to put it right at the back of her tongue which was 'risky' as she had a very strong bite, just getting her mouth open was a nightmare! However when she got seriously poorly, gradually lost the use of her legs and eventually became quadroplegic, giving her a tablet wasn't an easy nor sensible proposition - her head/mouth still worked fine and we liked our fingers and thumbs!

It is vital that you know the actual concentration of the paracetamol liquid though as there are two strengths, the ones for babies/younger kiddies is 120mg/5 mls and for older kiddies 240mg/5mls, it's important to check which you have as the dosage is different.

For dogs the 120mg/5mls solution is given at a dosage of 1ml per 2.4kg, so rounding it up to 2.5kg for ease it would mean 4ml of liquid for a 10kg dog; if using the double strength solution (240mg/5mls) it would be 2mls for a 10kg dog.

Our Lily was 7kg so she got just under 3mls of the 120mg liquid with a gap of a minimum of 4 hours in between each dose and a max of 4 times a day. For Jade at 11kg her dose would be 4.0-4.5ml.

The liquid usually comes with a small syringe to measure/administer it, you just need to make sure it's in ml (liquid) scale and not g/kg (weight) scale as I've had some that were the latter and you would be giving the wrong dose if you didn't realise it wasn't ml.

I prefer it to tablets as it allows more accurate dosing of a dog than relying on how well you break a tablet, if a dog won't let you give it a tablet or just pelts it straight back out at you, the liquid is much easier to give as you just squeeze it into the mouth and they swallow it.
 
I think you should have put my whole message in your response instead of taking phrases out of context.
Did you read the whole post?

Yes, I read the whole post but was commenting on only the relevant part. Struggling to see why you think it was quoted out of context but there you go. 🤷‍♂️

Ian

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