Ian and helga go south !!

[JockandRita]

Firstly and foremost Ian, as pointed out already, their dog's safety and welfare is their responsibility, and I know you'll be feeling bad about it, but the accident (which is what it is) is not your fault, if the dog was not clearly visible.

We came close to being in the same situation at St Valerie en Caux, where this French woman allowed her dog to jump out her MH, and hide under ours, every time she opened her blooming door. It took Rita to lose her rag and shout at the woman, before she realised what the problem was. I was in gear and handbrake off, ready to roll, when Rita spotted the bloody dog under the MH.

As a gesture of good will, you could stay to to establish how the dog is, and express concern about it's welfare, but do not give the owners any opportunity to apportion blame onto you. We're there any witnesses?

What a start to your day.

The best of luck.

Jock.

 

[MR. FUSION]

flip me !!!! I have just started and left my parking space at the aire and the bloke in the next van( Frenchman no English spoken) started banging on my van!! Well I stopped straight away thinking that I had lost something off the back but unfortunately I hadn't!! What I had done however is dragged his dog, a little pug under my back wheels !! The dog was apparently lying under my van at the back with no lead on or anything,, I managed to reverse off of his leg and now they have taken him to vets !!! He was lucky I was only crawling away from space! I'm shaking !! Christ what a start!! Should I go to the vets or wait for him here and pay for treatment do you think???

Nope it was the French persons responsibility to look after the dog, you have no responsibility to look under your van for a sleeping dog.

 

[Zigisla]

Responsibility is clearly with the owner so you can certainly absolve your self of that, but the type of person you seem to be, I bet you will always wonder what happend to the dog in the future, so hang around for your own piece of mind.

 

[Clickem]

You should not feel any responsibility for what happened and in no way feel obliged to pay. If you will continue to worry about how badly the dog was hurt you should wait to hear the outcome - I would want to know

 

[ianthebuilder]

I did have a look round the van twice!! Before I moved, and they were both sitting in their van with a drink, I saw them through the door!!! The little dog must have been out on his own !! I had dragged him it seems about a metre! Poor little sod, I had to reverse so frenchie could get him out, I think he was being pushed along by the grey waste tank!! When I calmed down I went to the kiosk, paid and left all my details for them, then I left,, but my worry soon turned to anger for them letting the little thing out on his own ! I should have given him a whack as well !!!! Still I'm now at Seville aire and I'm going to have a brew!! Bloody things to look for when you move!! Good job I was going at a snails pace or I'd have bought him with me!!

Why oh why does it happen to me!!! I'm getting a bit sick of this and other people's lack of awareness!!!

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[Zigisla]

Sky light Shut - Check
Windows Closed - Check
EHU cable removed - Check
Dogs NOT under unit - Check

 

[TheBig1]

obviously i am very sad the dog got hurt. however responsibility and liability stops with the arsehole owner.
if they do contact you and even suggest you pay towards the vet bill, please dont as that would mean you accept liability. that could cause you serious issues, not least the cost

 

[chaser]

I did have a look round the van twice!! Before I moved, and they were both sitting in their van with a drink, I saw them through the door!!! The little dog must have been out on his own !! I had dragged him it seems about a metre! Poor little sod, I had to reverse so frenchie could get him out, I think he was being pushed along by the grey waste tank!! When I calmed down I went to the kiosk, paid and left all my details for them, then I left,, but my worry soon turned to anger for them letting the little thing out on his own ! I should have given him a whack as well !!!! Still I'm now at Seville aire and I'm going to have a brew!! Bloody things to look for when you move!! Good job I was going at a snails pace or I'd have bought him with me!!

Why oh why does it happen to me!!! I'm getting a bit sick of this and other people's lack of awareness!!!

Absolutely the right thing, I know you may worry about it , but not your fault at all, and as someone else remarked, do not make to accept any blame or you could be paying this dogs bills for ever.

 

[Fenman]

If the plonkers should contact you to try and get the vet treatment paid by you I would send them an invoice roughyl 10 times the size to cover the mental disturbance and distress they have caused you by their stupidity.

 

[ianthebuilder]

Ok. Rant over!! Nice and relaxed now, a bit sorrowful for the dog but he looked OK! I hope...

Got to the marina aire here in Seville, and bugger me if it isn't a five min walk to the Hymer service centre and shop! With any luck I can get helga sorted with everything!!

Nice and hot here, just met a lovely couple from Cornwall with a Hymer 3 years older than mine and they have been here for 3 or 4 days, he's told me where everything is so alls good!! Chat later, I hope,, Xxx

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[gus-lopez]

Firstly and foremost Ian, as pointed out already, their dog's safety and welfare is their responsibility, and I know you'll be feeling bad about it, but the accident (which is what it is) is not your fault, if the dog was not clearly visible.


, but do not give the owners any opportunity to apportion blame onto you. We're there any witnesses?

What a start to your day.

The best of luck.

Jock.

No witnesses necessary as dogs, by law have to be on a lead at all times.


Ian ,no problem calling in any time . Normally here but just give us a ring.

 

[ianthebuilder]

I knew it wouldn't last!! Internet is crap!! Unless I go in the office and sit on the old boys lap!!! Mind you, he might have planned it that way!! Nothing would surprise me today!!! Lol

 

[ianthebuilder]

No witnesses necessary as dogs, by law have to be on a lead at all times.


Ian ,no problem calling in any time . Normally here but just give us a ring.

Course I would Gus. I wouldn't just turn up!! You'd have to hide the bloody dog from me first!!! Xx

 

[robiebee]

Dogs should be kept on leads when on campsites at all times, we do with ours anyway , perhaps he was hoping it would do its buisnes on your pitch instead of his so he wouldn't have to clear up, I wouldn't worry about it Ian hopefully the dog will be okay

 

[ianthebuilder]

Dogs should be kept on leads when on campsites at all times, we do with ours anyway , perhaps he was hoping it would do its buisnes on your pitch instead of his so he wouldn't have to clear up, I wouldn't worry about it Ian hopefully the dog will be okay

I hope so rob!! I think he got stuck under the plastic wate tank and I must have pushed him a metre I think, when he came out he was standing and no blood or visible bones broken !! Shook me up as bad as them though,

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[Anthea M]

I hope so rob!! I think he got stuck under the plastic wate tank and I must have pushed him a metre I think, when he came out he was standing and no blood or visible bones broken !! Shook me up as bad as them though,

You deserve a drink or two to calm your nerves and I don't mean a Yorkie tea!!

 

[Popeye]

I knew it wouldn't last!! Internet is crap!! Unless I go in the office and sit on the old boys lap!!! Mind you, he might have planned it that way!! Nothing would surprise me today!!! Lol

Well Ian, when you dragged the dog along you started with 'F**K me', and in your last Post you made mention of 'B*gger me' and now it sounds as if you are going to sit on the old boy's lap........

I pray life is less adventurous when I get over there this year.

I really am a Dog lover Ian, not so much with cats but at the risk of upsetting folk on here, when I first passed my driving test in 1968 I had a need to move my Dad's car (MG 1100) which was one of the earlier transverse engine models from sir Alec Issigonnis. I didn't check under the bonnet where our neighbors cat had fallen asleep on the cowling above the fan blades (for Warmth) I assume.

That cat came out of there like a greased Ferret and with a reddish tinge to his fur. But he was Okay once they tracked him down and got him to the Vets.

Keep it coming Ian, just try to abbreviate your French occasionally, not for me but for the more easily offended......

Cheers Griff

 

[Rob e Lee]

My wife was driving one day when a dog shot out of nowhere and she ran over it. It was the slowest emergency stop ever as she reasoned that the slower she came to a stop the less injured the dog would be!! You could hear a sort of rumbling as the car slowly came to a halt. She sat there shaking and it was down to me check how the dog was. As I started to peer under the car a very shaken/limping dog scuttled off in the direction of some Tower Blocks nearby - not a very nice area I might add. I was mighty relieved that it wasn't dead!, there was no way I was going to follow it so jumped in the car and shot off.

Rob

 

[ianthebuilder]

A woman in the van next to me has just given me 2 Yorkshire tea bags!!! I'm gonna murder her husband and move in !!!! Xx

 

[ianthebuilder]

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Well Ian, when you dragged the dog along you started with 'F**K me', and in your last Post you made mention of 'B*gger me' and now it sounds as if you are going to sit on the old boy's lap........

I pray life is less adventurous when I get over there this year.

I really am a Dog lover Ian, not so much with cats but at the risk of upsetting folk on here, when I first passed my driving test in 1968 I had a need to move my Dad's car (MG 1100) which was one of the earlier transverse engine models from sir Alec Issigonnis. I didn't check under the bonnet where our neighbors cat had fallen asleep on the cowling above the fan blades (for Warmth) I assume.

That cat came out of there like a greased Ferret and with a reddish tinge to his fur. But he was Okay once they tracked him down and got him to the Vets.

Keep it coming Ian, just try to abbreviate your French occasionally, not for me but for the more easily offended......

Cheers Griff

Sorry griff. Didn't intend to offend !! X.( I was livid today though). Lol

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[Hymie]

I was wondering bigun!! I didn't know if it was a stupid question when I asked do teabags go off!!!! Lol

Are these the square tea bags Ian? i suppose being Yorkshire tea that they are? Probably too tight-arsed to buy a new machine for making round tea bags, then they could put them in the same stay-fresh silver foil rolls everyone else uses.

I'm off now. Taxi.

 

[ianthebuilder]

Well the day has finished like it started. Badly!! About 2 hours ago a very stressed young couple came to me, as I was chatting with a couple of mhomers and asked to borrow a set of jump leads, of course I offered mine and of they went!! Havnt seen em since!!! ( first Spanish robbers I met) lol. Just have to put it down as a day to forget!!! Xx

 

[ianthebuilder]

Well hush my mouth!!!! A young lady who I have never seen before has just bought my leads back!! Can't believe it, 5 mins after I posted!! That will teach me to grizzle too quickly !! And I did apologise to her for thinking the worst!!! So maybe not such a bad day at that!! Xx

 

[Jo662]

A woman in the van next to me has just given me 2 Yorkshire tea bags!!! I'm gonna murder her husband and move in !!!! Xx

I hope that does`nt happen now Ian,as you would be prime suspect!!

 

[ianthebuilder]

I hope that does`nt happen now Ian,as you would be prime suspect!!

Good morning Jo ,

Well it seems like I did have a really bad day yesterday! I opened my mouth and posted things that I shouldn't,, I was very quick to judge, and that's really not normal for me, it must have been the dog incident that addled my little brain !!

I apologise for the bad language posted and hope it didn't upset anyone!!

I apologised to a girl I had never met for thinking that she or her mate had borrowed and stolen my jump leads ( really not like me). And she accepted gracefully ( wich made me feel more of a heel).

And now it seems that I posted in fun a comment about the tea bags and a woman here and her husband , well maybe I shouldn't have joked about that, You see yesterday when I arrived there was police and coastguard all over here in the river etc, and it turns out that a bloke committed suicide a day or two ago by jumping in the river here, and now the authorities are looking for the body!!

I saw some of his friends and relatives here, looking helpless and just gazing out into nowhere!

It was a somber site and just added to my confusion !!

So from now on, I will think before I post and not be so quick to open my mouth !!!

I have found the big service centre just outside Seville and bonus they have their own aire, so I'm going to drive over there this morning to see if I can any of my required work done !

Have a great day !! Ian. Xx

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[JockandRita]

I have found the big service centre just outside Seville and bonus they have their own aire, so I'm going to drive over there this morning to see if I can any of my required work done !

Good luck getting the work carried out Ian.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[funflair]

Morning Ian

Have a good day, when you get into Seville make sure you go to the Plaza Espania and the armoury museum which is in one of the buildings at the Plaza Espania and you could miss it if you are not careful.

Good luck with Helga.

Martin

 

[Fenman]

Don't get over heated about things Ian.
We all make jokes about a huge number of things but your comment about the teabag donation was just that. If we had to consider the remotest possibility of upsetting someone we wouldn't open our mouths at all.
And in this day and age the language we use is very different to that of our parents. The odd slip brought about by a bad experience is totally forgiveable I think. If anything it is a sign that something means more to you than just an annoyance.
Not every day can be filled with sunshine but thanks to you and your adventures I smile more than I would without you.
Bad day over get back to fun.

 

[JockandRita]

Don't get over heated about things Ian.
We all make jokes about a huge number of things but your comment about the teabag donation was just that. If we had to consider the remotest possibility of upsetting someone we wouldn't open our mouths at all.
And in this day and age the language we use is very different to that of our parents. The odd slip brought about by a bad experience is totally forgiveable I think. If anything it is a sign that something means more to you than just an annoyance.
Not every day can be filled with sunshine but thanks to you and your adventures I smile more than I would without you.
Bad day over get back to fun.

Very well put Fenman.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Anthea M]

Ian swearing when vexed is ok by me except in front of kiddies! Hope you have a great day today and Helga gets her 'bits' sorted!!

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