France Off The Menu.

[glenn2926]

That’s probably true in part, but you can’t blame them for swift action, our government ought to learn a thing or two regarding “swift action “

I’m not sure what lesson is to be learned by not wanting people from countries with fewer deaths, cases ,hospital cases. Than ones own country.
The only lesson he could learn from us is to stop buggering about and get vaccinating his population.

 

[MITHRANDIR]

I’m not sure what lesson is to be learned by not wanting people from countries with fewer deaths, cases ,hospital cases. Than ones own country.
The only lesson he could learn from us is to stop buggering about and get vaccinating his population.

I think you are missing the point there, we have recklessly let in a large number of people from a country where a new variant is running riot, how can anyone be 100% that it won’t run riot here, and then be passed to France?
Yes we have low cases here at the moment, hopefully that will continue but that is by no means guaranteed.
Bash France all you like but why not bash others as well Norway,Germany, Austria etc, you can’t go there either.

 

[glenn2926]

I think you are missing the point there, we have recklessly let in a large number of people from a country where a new variant is running riot, how can anyone be 100% that it won’t run riot here, and then be passed to France?
Yes we have low cases here at the moment, hopefully that will continue but that is by no means guaranteed.
Bash France all you like but why not bash others as well Norway,Germany, Austria etc, you can’t go there either.

It’s not just France bashing as you put it. It’s the ridiculous rules preventing travellers from countries with better vaccination schemes. Lower death rates lower and falling hospital numbers, greater testing rates. All being banned from countries nowhere near as advanced as this. Just seems petty to me.
I don’t have a problem with tourists from say Israel coming here as they are dealing with this as well as or better than us.

 

[MITHRANDIR]

It’s not just France bashing as you put it. It’s the ridiculous rules preventing travellers from countries with better vaccination schemes. Lower death rates lower and falling hospital numbers, greater testing rates. All being banned from countries nowhere near as advanced as this. Just seems petty to me.
I don’t have a problem with tourists from say Israel coming here as they are dealing with this as well as or better than us.

I would wholeheartedly agree that some of the rules are ridiculous some countries on the amber lists have lower rates and higher vaccinations than some on the green list.
Doesn’t make sense at all.
I read an article last night about why India wasn’t closed off sooner, long and short of it was the pm didn’t want to upset them and jeopardise the trade deal that he is trying to get.

 

[Captain Birdseye]

As long as they lift the restrictions by September that will be fine by me.

Me too

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[Captain Birdseye]

As long as they lift the restrictions by September that will be fine by me.

 

[Captain Birdseye]

Well they are only doing what we are doing for Amber countries. Can't really criticize them for that.

agree

 

[Captain Birdseye]

i cant understand how the indian variant is not all over europe the indian and bangladeshi comunities are spread around the globe

We shut the stable door after the horse had bolted (again) and perhaps Europe didn't

 

[glenn2926]

We shut the stable door after the horse had bolted (again) and perhaps Europe didn't

Is that why our deaths, cases, hospitalisation are all lower than almost everywhere else?

Edit; oh and our vaccinations higher?

 

[Captain Birdseye]

You love the place someone doesn't. Who's view is the most valid?

Should I ban people who say they don't like France, or ban those who love it so much they live there?

Or maybe we could just accept others views, or ignore them.

Suppression of contrary views (free speech )is never good, unless vicariously offensive.

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[Captain Birdseye]

Now I’m offended View attachment 501306

Haha

 

[NoName]

Tit for Tat
Political pontificating

I don’t think it’s political just pragmatic. France like the U.K. wants to minimise the transmission of new variants.
For me , it’s touring the U.K. and Eire this year and hopefully Europe in 2022 providing there are no restrictions.

 

[Skyway]

The only way to stop it is to lock all borders no travel full stop
You may not like it but that what the whole world should have done to start with contain it
We are an island
I know imports of food etc would be a great problem

 

[glenn2926]

The only way to stop it is to lock all borders no travel full stop
You may not like it but that what the whole world should have done to start with contain it
We are an island
I know imports of food etc would be a great problem

Great idea, how long for? Bearing in mind that the virus is never ever going away.

 

[Captain Birdseye]

Some, including me would see it as being positive re the new variant and believing in the vaccines.
Others like to be as negative as possible and will go out of their way to find anything that might, could, maybe, possibly cause us more problems. Luckily the ones making the decisions seem to be in the let’s look forward and be positive camp.
Sorry if you don’t like that.

It's not about me liking or not liking.
You never considered that some people are in vulnerable groups (i.e. more likely to die) and do not appreciate an attitude of "throwing caution to the wind" where lives are concerned.
In any event we can all have our own legitimate views without personalising the issue and thus being offensive.

Just because insults are traded around the world does not make it a civilised way to debate.

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[jongood]

Some can continue to bash the french and macron, but imv it was probably the right thing to do, ie see what happens over a few weeks.
Don’t get me wrong I am no friend of macron but he has done nothing that we have not done to other countries including France.
Don’t forget they will also know we let in 20,000 odd people in when we should not have done.

He's kidding himself if he doesnt believe its already there.

 

[jongood]

It's not about me liking or not liking.
You never considered that some people are in vulnerable groups (i.e. more likely to die) and do not appreciate an attitude of "throwing caution to the wind" where lives are concerned.
In any event we can all have our own legitimate views without personalising the issue and thus being offensive.

Just because insults are traded around the world does not make it a civilised way to debate.

No one is being forced to travel except perhaps keen football fans.

 

[Captain Birdseye]

Is that why our deaths, cases, hospitalisation are all lower than almost everywhere else?

Edit; oh and our vaccinations higher?

Overall our deaths, cases, and hospitalisations may be lower today, but are on an upward trend again, however please don't forget that during the pandemic we have (sadly) been amongst the world leaders in deaths and cases, consistently ignoring scientific advice and taking action long after it was needed, at the cost of many lives. It is this track record that is worrying.

 

[MITHRANDIR]

He's kidding himself if he doesnt believe its already there.

Agree but then he can’t do anything about that, he can and has potentially stopped importing any new cases from the uk.
On average millions of the uk visit France every year.
Sensible imv, but is tainted with politics.

 

[Janine]

The only way to stop it is to lock all borders no travel full stop
You may not like it but that what the whole world should have done to start with contain it
We are an island
I know imports of food etc would be a great problem

Australia did just that with a high degree of success.

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[Abacist]

Australia did just that with a high degree of success.

And New Zealand!

 

[Skyway]

Great idea, how long for? Bearing in mind that the virus is never ever going away.

Till it’s under countrol Obviously

 

[PhilandMena]

According to Gov.com from tomorrow (31st May) before you leave the UK you have to have a negative PCR test (no more than 48hrs before you leave) - you then have to quarantine for 7 days once in France. At the end of the 7-day quarantine you have to have a negative French PCR test and then on return to the UK further hurdles!!!!!
The BIGGEST problem is Macron, not Covid. He hates the British and will do anything to cause Brexit to fail, even if it damages his own country’s economy.

Your post is incorrect !

All travellers from the UK, including children aged 11 and above, will need to present a negative PCR COVID-19 test result, carried out less than 72 hours before departure. As of Monday 31 May, this requirement will change: a negative PCR or antigen test result will be accepted, carried out less than 48 hours before departure.

Also, and although not yet clarified I think you can still transit through France without having to Quarantine for seven days. (We will know this for certain when we have Funsters crossing after the 31st). onemanand2dogs crossed the French/Spanish border in his motorhome a few days ago without any checks or being stopped at the border.

We will know for certain how these revised changes work in practise, by mid June I would tink.

 

[glenn2926]

Till it’s under countrol Obviously

Never then, as soon as we allow people outside again it will spread again.

 

[glenn2926]

It's not about me liking or not liking.
You never considered that some people are in vulnerable groups (i.e. more likely to die) and do not appreciate an attitude of "throwing caution to the wind" where lives are concerned.
In any event we can all have our own legitimate views without personalising the issue and thus being offensive.

Just because insults are traded around the world does not make it a civilised way to debate.

I do have a radical idea. Why don’t the vulnerable go inside their homes, lock the door and windows and stay there? Staying safe forevermore.
That way the vulnerable stay safe and the rest of the population can start going about a more normal life.
Every body is happy.

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[chaser]

The only way to stop it is to lock all borders no travel full stop
You may not like it but that what the whole world should have done to start with contain it
We are an island
I know imports of food etc would be a great problem

Yes but you have also hit on the problem as well, what is the point of stopping anyone traveling while we still have lorry drivers and other essential workers just going backwards and forwards without any form of quarentine.

 

[suavecarve]

Overall our deaths, cases, and hospitalisations may be lower today, but are on an upward trend again,

Really ?????

870 people in hospital which is lowest since 13th September
6 deaths per day on average this week which still means you are more likely to die in an RTC than covid.

Our cases may be increasing but still lower on a daily rate than all the major countries of Europe. Our weekly rate is lower than any country we are likely to visit.

 

[Skyway]

I do have a radical idea. Why don’t the vulnerable go inside their homes, lock the door and windows and stay there? Staying safe forevermore.
That way the vulnerable stay safe and the rest of the population can start going about a more normal life.
Every body is happy.

That’s not going to work if you was coming back to correct me have some thing better that that rubbish
The old are going mad stuck in they have a life to

 

[PhilandMena]

870 people in hospital which is lowest since 13th September
6 deaths per day on average this week which still means you are more likely to die in an RTC than covid.

Our cases may be increasing but still lower on a daily rate than all the major countries of Europe. Our weekly rate is lower than any country we are likely to visit.

Perhaps we are now at a stage in the UK where we have the same or even better control over this virus as compared to the Flu virus. The Flu virus also mutates and every year we receive updated vaccination's to protect the vulnerable. Sadly, many still die each winter and we now accept this is going to happen and get on with our lives as best we can. I suspect, in the not too distant future we will regard the Coronavirus in the same light and our annual vaccination programme will include the latest approved and tweaked vaccines to deal with new variants.
There can be no doubt that our UK based scientists have well and truly saved a great many lives across the whole globe and we can look upon their efforts with great pride.

 

[yodeli]

Selon l'agence sanitaire britannique Public Health England, au 19 mai, le pays a recensé au total 3 424 cas confirmés de contamination au variant indien (nom scientifique : B.1.617.2), un chiffre en augmentation de 160 % par rapport à la semaine précédente (1 313 cas au 12 mai).Il y a 4 jours

According to The British Health (not French figures) it is increasing
1313 persons on May the 12th VS 3424on the 19th so 160% more .... due to the Indian variant

Géodes - Santé publique France

www.gouvernement.fr

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