Do I cancel my new Swift van?

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Lenny HB said:
That's probably the one bit that isn't a wind up, my vans payload is over 1350 kg and I'm only on a 4.5t chassis.
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I wouldn’t bother with any vans with less than a 1000 kg payload either . ?
 
chaser said:
The list goes on I'm afraid, he's bought a van he doesn't like without hiswife actually seeing it, he's already got one that does the job which he could park at one of his other houses, he seems to be loaded ,boats, houses, 7 foot teles,, so could easily afford one of the other vans he craves, then starts going on about wires and stuff on this one when he had actually seen them before putting a deposit on it.
I could go on , just crazy.
Think he is just going for the longest thread about nothing.
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Not sure why you find it strange that someone would buy a van without their partner seeing it ?
Like anything else it’s a thing to do a job , nothing more or less and if it suits what you are looking for you do it .
 
596 said:
If there are any Swift motorhome owners on here could you check the finish on your van and let me know if yours is bodged as well, Thanks (y)
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Go on then, I’ll step in feet first. ?
So we’ve had our escape for 3 years now. Bought second hand for £30k ish ....... (wouldn’t have dreamt of or been able to afford more) and yes, it’s not a particularly bonny looking van; fit and finish inside is basic but tidy and hasn’t fallen apart yet. No leaks; no recalls; no off-road time at dealers for fixes.
We are currently on a campsite in the Dordogne...... beside us are two other Brits. One in a Y plate autotrail and another a 17 plate Hymer which looks lovely. We’re all sitting here with exactly the same view using exactly the same facilities and all enjoying their holidays. Pays your money ..... takes your choice.
As I see it, as long as the bed is comfy and the loo works, the rest of the time you are spent outside the van enjoying the sun and views. On the road it’s just a Ducato as many are and it’s worked fine too.
This is our 3rd holiday in France in the moho. We’ve been to Hampshire, Devon, Norfolk, Yorkshire, The Lakes, the NC500 a couple of times and Orkney. It’s not let us down yet.
As an aside, our first night on this trip we met another Swift owner, a NZ guy..... solo traveller, who buys Swift moho’s In UK, tours round Europe for a few months then ships them back to NZ where he makes money on them...... rinse and repeat.
So there you go. My 2p worth. Good luck with whichever Moho you end up with. ?
 
Baileysbus said:
Go on then, I’ll step in feet first. ?
So we’ve had our escape for 3 years now. Bought second hand for £30k ish ....... (wouldn’t have dreamt of or been able to afford more) and yes, it’s not a particularly bonny looking van; fit and finish inside is basic but tidy and hasn’t fallen apart yet. No leaks; no recalls; no off-road time at dealers for fixes.
We are currently on a campsite in the Dordogne...... beside us are two other Brits. One in a Y plate autotrail and another a 17 plate Hymer which looks lovely. We’re all sitting here with exactly the same view using exactly the same facilities and all enjoying their holidays. Pays your money ..... takes your choice.
As I see it, as long as the bed is comfy and the loo works, the rest of the time you are spent outside the van enjoying the sun and views. On the road it’s just a Ducato as many are and it’s worked fine too.
This is our 3rd holiday in France in the moho. We’ve been to Hampshire, Devon, Norfolk, Yorkshire, The Lakes, the NC500 a couple of times and Orkney. It’s not let us down yet.
As an aside, our first night on this trip we met another Swift owner, a NZ guy..... solo traveller, who buys Swift moho’s In UK, tours round Europe for a few months then ships them back to NZ where he makes money on them...... rinse and repeat.
So there you go. My 2p worth. Good luck with whichever Moho you end up with. ?
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My view exactly (y) Had my current Swift van 9yrs, never missed a beat, I am not a material person as in brand but do like my gadgets, so as long as a van is functional, legal and does the job that suits me. We are looking at a Swift as you know, people take the micky about them and having seen what Swift are up to now with their finish its easy to see why and raises alarm bells, they are not the cheapest quality but do the job and you have to buy with that in mind, if you are a brand snob you would never be happy, we aren't but do expect the vehicle to be finished to a good standard, having spent 2 days in Germany doesn't help when you returns to look at sloppy British work! And as some say if you see bodges what don't you see! We have a budget and will stick to it so have to cut our cloth accordingly, but making do doesn't mean accepting sloppy work (y)
 
chaser said:
The list goes on I'm afraid, he's bought a van he doesn't like without hiswife actually seeing it, he's already got one that does the job which he could park at one of his other houses, he seems to be loaded ,boats, houses, 7 foot teles,, so could easily afford one of the other vans he craves, then starts going on about wires and stuff on this one when he had actually seen them before putting a deposit on it.
I could go on , just crazy.
Think he is just going for the longest thread about nothing.
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Chaser I think this guy is having a laugh at our expense.. Or maybe he's an exec. From a rival company.
 
You need to drop one of your requirements. That should be sufficient to vastly widen your choice of vehicles. To me the simplest (and I know it's one of your red lines) would be your objection to a trailer. I assume the heaviest element of the diving kit is the air supply devices and if so the weight is compact. A very small trailer would contain them, free up space inside, keep the interior free of clutter and the risk of damage, and remove an obstacle to finding the van you want. Speed limits tend not to be the issue you might think as cameras do not differentiate between towing and not towing. Just stay out of lane 3 (in the UK anyway) and place your law-abiding nature on hold.
 
Not sure why people think it's a wind up, but I do think some of the objections are over fussy.

If you are saving £20k over buying German, then rerouting or hiding a few wires doesn't seem like a bad deal.

I wouldn't accept the sofa arm as it is, clearly something missing or not finished correctly, the outside finish is a little messy, but as long as it is waterproof. As for the marker light, just straighten it if it bothers you!

Are these not the reasons the van isn't 20+k more?
 
Onemanandhisdog said:
I wouldn't accept the sofa arm as it is, clearly something missing or not finished correctly
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I think it's under the overcab bed and the trim has been cut short or is missing a piece.

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Mr 596...

Two questions if you don't mind too much.

Are you actually diagnosed as having OCD?

If you don't get the Swift in the end, will you be changing your user name?

JJ :cool:
 
Too many people buying new MHs that are not up to scratch and fail to stand up to the dealers and manufacturers to get them sorted is part of the problem. All MHs can have problems/quality issues regardless of the make/model/country of manufacture. The key is to get them sorted early on and point the issues out.

If they are that bad when purchased new they should be rejected, manufacturers would get the point if enough people did the same.
 
we took 6 hours to complete handover, returned to Dealer 4 times more over 4 days with loads of Issues ours is a Chausson its not only Swift that have issues , one of the major issues we had was when my Wife looked from the inside we could see the ground where the Cab joined the Body thie was on both sides I won't list all the faults due to not enough hours in a day , but I would say it should not be the Dealers job to fix problems , lack of good management of quality in build is the problem , but, management I suspect are under pressure to reach build targets I was once told years ago Production Manager at Swift got an incentive to reach target I don't know if this is true ,if it is I suspect other Companies do the same , as I said on the Weights issue Post they sell everything they make, so the probably think why should we care, one of the above Post replies mentioned the demise of the car Industry.
That happened long ago with BMC, Rolls Royce etc they were rubbish , I know I used to repair them !!
Tony A
 
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Onemanandhisdog said:
As for the marker light, just straighten it if it bothers you!
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I've walked away from new cars where the number plate wasn't level.
If you can't manage to do that right why do they get upset when the customer has them by the throat?
JJ said:
Are you actually diagnosed as having OCD?
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I certified myself:D(y)
 
I actually can't believe this thread is still going and has reached page 6 when the decision was reached on page 1 that the van is an eyesore and not worth the cash or indeed the headache..

Cancel the order walk away and have a serious rethink of what you need and want.

You'll never be happy with that van in any way.

Forget comparing it to any other brand whether dearer or not the simple truth is selling anything with that shoddy workmanship is embarrassing and there's no way I'd part with that kind of money to buy it.

I'd walk away from a 25 grand second hand van that someone had put sealer like that on.

It's a mess

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596 said:
My view exactly (y) Had my current Swift van 9yrs, never missed a beat, I am not a material person as in brand but do like my gadgets, so as long as a van is functional, legal and does the job that suits me. We are looking at a Swift as you know, people take the micky about them and having seen what Swift are up to now with their finish its easy to see why and raises alarm bells, they are not the cheapest quality but do the job and you have to buy with that in mind, if you are a brand snob you would never be happy, we aren't but do expect the vehicle to be finished to a good standard, having spent 2 days in Germany doesn't help when you returns to look at sloppy British work! And as some say if you see bodges what don't you see! We have a budget and will stick to it so have to cut our cloth accordingly, but making do doesn't mean accepting sloppy work (y)
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I take your point but I should have said ours is a 15 plate so not one of the old school swifts. I guess it’s one of the newer system builds typical of the standard you’re looking at just now. Maybe we’ve just got lucky with ours ? but so far so good.
 
For those of us who find some threads on this forum difficult to follow at the best of times, can you confirm that at this point neither you nor your partner have actually seen the actual motorhome on which you have placed a deposit?

And if that is the case, would not the next logical step be to actually look at the actual motorhome on which you have placed a deposit? It might be just fine.
 
gus-lopez said:
I've walked away from new cars where the number plate wasn't level.
If you can't manage to do that right why do they get upset when the customer has them by the throat?
I certified myself:D(y)
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I'm exactly the same ?. When I bought my only brand new car I told the salesman I'd turn it down if the plates weren't level. He showed me the pre-threaded holes in the car and their template number plate for the holes. So it can be done.

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klaatu said:
For those of us who find some threads on this forum difficult to follow at the best of times, can you confirm that at this point neither you nor your partner have actually seen the actual motorhome on which you have placed a deposit?

And if that is the case, would not the next logical step be to actually look at the actual motorhome on which you have placed a deposit? It might be just fine.
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klaatu said:
For those of us who find some threads on this forum difficult to follow at the best of times, can you confirm that at this point neither you nor your partner have actually seen the actual motorhome on which you have placed a deposit?

And if that is the case, would not the next logical step be to actually look at the actual motorhome on which you have placed a deposit? It might be just fine.
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Keep up with the plot... ? :LOL:
I think his wife has seen it and taken a load of photo,s ..... I think....not 100% sure as about to hit the egnore thread button
 
596 said:

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Oh, OK. I do have seriously defective vision, so thanks for that. I had thought that you were not like many of the new posters that arrive here and think they are able to start abusing everyone, but clearly I was wrong in my assessment. So you can feck right off.
 
TCG said:
Keep up with the plot... ? :LOL:
I think his wife has seen it and taken a load of photo,s ..... I think....not 100% sure as about to hit the egnore thread button
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In one of his more recent posts, I think he was saying that the photos from his wife turned out to be of the display model, and theirs was still under wraps. But clearly I’m not the only one confused.
 
Sillious Sodus said:
I've always thought it's best to keep ones mouth shut and let everyone think you're a complete idiot rather than open it and remove all doubt.
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klaatu said:
So you can feck right off.
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No matter how much you disagree with someone, there is absolutely no need to talk to them in this way.
 
klaatu said:
For those of us who find some threads on this forum difficult to follow at the best of times, can you confirm that at this point neither you nor your partner have actually seen the actual motorhome on which you have placed a deposit?

And if that is the case, would not the next logical step be to actually look at the actual motorhome on which you have placed a deposit? It might be just fine.
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A bit of an assumption that any of this is actually true ::bigsmile:
 
Hub
Jim said:
No matter how much you disagree with someone, there is absolutely no need to talk to them in this way.
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596 is trying his hardest to get someone sent to Coventry, why is anyone's guess, at the beginning everyone was trying to help him but if it wasn't what he wanted to hear he's gone off on one.
 
chaser said:
Hub

596 is trying his hardest to get someone sent to Coventry, why is anyone's guess, at the beginning everyone was trying to help him but if it wasn't what he wanted to hear he's gone off on one.
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I think the Specsavers dig was a little low to be honest because I too initially thought the photos were stills of the original video.

This is all before buying the van I hate to imagine the threads afterwards when the REAL issues arise.

As they most surely will
 
I think you are all having your strings pulled


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