Do I cancel my new Swift van?

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busby said:
Am I DREAMING or am I in cloud cuckoo land,,4 pages of absolute nonsense, ,,,Never read such contradicting nonsense.. BUSBY
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I’m with you on that, just wondering if this is all a wind up, I’m hitting the ignore thread button before it gets worse.
 
The van he's looking at doesn't have a 1000kg payload anyway, the 596-4250kg MH has a 753kg payload maximum and that's a £72k entry level priced 2020 euro 6d version which is supposed to have a lighter built body on the chassis... (they've got a few 6b engines left)

Not even the £100k tag axle Kon tiki's have a 1000kg payload they around 880 kg.

Swifts are getting poorer, not even many of the hire firms want them now as they fall to pieces and at least Auto Trail have had a kick up the backside by Trigano.

If he wants British a Bailey Autograph 81-6 will give him around 900 kg to play with and comes with a spare wheel as standard but I'd also suggest a Hymer A or B class especially for the payload he's after. He should be able source a quality fairly recent pre loved van for his budget.
 
Jonno1103 said:
The van he's looking at doesn't have a 1000kg payload anyway, the 596-4250kg MH has a 753kg payload maximum and that's a £72k entry level priced 2020 euro 6d version which is supposed to have a lighter built body on the chassis... (they've got a few 6b engines left)

Not even the £100k tag axle Kon tiki's have a 1000kg payload they around 880 kg.

Swifts are getting poorer, not even many of the hire firms want them now as they fall to pieces and at least Auto Trail have had a kick up the backside by Trigano.

If he wants British a Bailey Autograph 81-6 will give him around 900 kg to play with and comes with a spare wheel as standard but I'd also suggest a Hymer A or B class especially for the payload he's after. He should be able source a quality fairly recent pre loved van for his budget.
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Sorry, he is me, you have missed a lot which makes part of your thread irrelevant, but to help I will explain quickly. My van has a payload of 822kg, it will be upgraded to 4,500kg immediately giving it a payload of, yes you guessed it, 1,072kg, THEN it will be upgraded again with the addition of air bags and new rear tyres with 121 load rating to 4,700kg giving a total payload of 1,272kg. My only problem with the final upgrade is waiting to see what weight rating the Fiat alloy wheels have, if they don't support the 4,700kg weight then I will not be doing this final upgrade, it works out too expensive just for 200 extra kg. So my van WILL have over 1,000kg payload.

I did look at the tag axles but as you correctly say they are actually less than mine, not only that the are 1mtr longer at 9mtrs and I don't have the room for it, also the site I use do not permit tag axle vehicles.

I have been warned off Bailey so did not go there but did look at a few online, I have also heard nightmares about Hymer and saw them in Germany but could not find one in stock to suit my needs.

Hope that helps and thanks for the tips.
 
Allanm said:
I’m with you on that, just wondering if this is all a wind up, I’m hitting the ignore thread button before it gets worse.
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Do you know I was just coming to that conclusion and going to say so when I got to the end but you have beat me to it.
 
Our very first MH was a Swift, bought before we knew what was what. Mr QFour got very fed up with putting it back together again.

These days we have a Laika and it’s fabulous in every way. It’s sturdy, reliable and beautifully finished. We are also delighted with our dealers, Southdowns of Portsmouth.

Mrs QFour
 
596 said:
Funny thing is I had no emotions at all when I paid the deposit, I'm afraid I can't get excited about objects whether cars, motorhomes or boats, as long as they are reliable and do the job they are required to do then that's fine by me, my wife is the same, she wasn't even interested in looking at it until I made her go today. One thing I don't like is sloppy workmanship, when I look at something a professional or expert was meant to have done and I know I could do better myself it just pisses me off, especially when I have paid big money for their services or the item.

I think as you get older and wiser you wish you were able to go around in ignorance and just see thing rosy, ignorance is bliss as they say, the more you know the more you see and the more it can annoy you, it just seems the world is full of so called 'experts' with fancy titles that want to rip you off and take your money!
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If you can do the job better yourself, why not get yourself a lorry and convert it to your own standards .

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Well now I am in a quandary, it’s going to be tough, had a good debrief with my wife this morning after her visit to view the van yesterday which is the first time she had seen one, never mind the actual one which was now there, she only had an hour, she saw the showroom van and ours still wrapped up but is firm in her own views.
 
chaser said:
Absolutely agree, nothing to do with me but seeing op is worried enough to put it out on the net to all and sundry before he has got it home says a lot in my opinion.
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Something doesn't sound right with this whole post, I can't put my finger quite on what, but something is awry.
 
No way could I live with that van.
Knowing how we both feel about the aesthetics of things it would drive us both around the bend and as for the sealant on the body......words fail me.
I would never have agreed to buy a van like that!
 
Jonno1103 said:
The van he's looking at doesn't have a 1000kg payload anyway, the 596-4250kg MH has a 753kg payload maximum and that's a £72k entry level priced 2020 euro 6d version which is supposed to have a lighter built body on the chassis... (they've got a few 6b engines left)

Not even the £100k tag axle Kon tiki's have a 1000kg payload they around 880 kg.

Swifts are getting poorer, not even many of the hire firms want them now as they fall to pieces and at least Auto Trail have had a kick up the backside by Trigano.

If he wants British a Bailey Autograph 81-6 will give him around 900 kg to play with and comes with a spare wheel as standard but I'd also suggest a Hymer A or B class especially for the payload he's after. He should be able source a quality fairly recent pre loved van for his budget.
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Most of the hire mohos in Europe are the Sunlight (Carado) type, like mine. So they must be doing something right (y)
 
MR. FUSION said:
Most of the hire mohos in Europe are the Sunlight (Carado) type, like mine. So they must be doing something right (y)
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Sunlight had a huge presence in Dusseldorf, to be honest they looked like nice vans for the money as long as you knew what you were buying and happy, I did spend some time with a really nice guy selling them who spoke perfect English but they had nothing that would suit out needs e.g. rear lounge and 1,000kg payload
 
Jimbohorlicks said:
596, why don't you just buy a trailer for all your extra weight items such as your dive gear, then you could go for a smaller van and then no need to upgrade the weighting.? As you said in your original post you just need it to drive to the south of France or wherever, not to actually stay in it when your there
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Yes I have considered this, don't want the aggro of a trailer as had them for years, storage, maintenance, lower speed on motorways, more expensive on tunnel e.t.c, but even if I did the problem is I found my van is down plated to 3,500kg so could not get the grandkids in even with a trailer, its a Euro 3 and a paper exercise to upgrade to 4,000kg but then would require C1 licence (not a problem as I have that), Medicals if aged over 70 (no problem with that) BUT be illegal in the LEZ without spending a fortune on filters and the like, so boxed into a corner, no grandkids or van with bigger payload. Thanks for your thoughts (y)

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If there are any Swift motorhome owners on here could you check the finish on your van and let me know if yours is bodged as well, Thanks (y)
 
596 said:
Well now I am in a quandary, it’s going to be tough, had a good debrief with my wife this morning after her visit to view the van yesterday which is the first time she had seen one, never mind the actual one which was now there, she only had an hour, she saw the showroom van and ours still wrapped up but is firm in her own views.
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... and her view are? I've managed to get more blood out of a stone!

Your credibility is wearing very thin now as can be seen from some funster postings ... hopefully you are not just winding everyone up with a 'story' as it causes mistrust of anyone asking questions in the future, so please stop messing about and give us proper comments, info etc.
 
Going German may not necessarily satisfy you. We bought a new Burstner Lyseo in May. Lovely van but already have 12 minor faults to be put right by the dealer. That said absolutely no quibble from them or Burstner.
 
Christoph said:
Going German may not necessarily satisfy you. We bought a new Burstner Lyseo in May. Lovely van but already have 12 minor faults to be put right by the dealer. That said absolutely no quibble from them or Burstner.
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I was looking at the Burstner 744 and flew to Germany to see it, they were very nice but the van was a death trap IN MY OPINION, also they had the new van I was looking at in the UK weighed while I was actually there and the weight was 200kg MORE than stated reducing my payload to unacceptable, to upgrade means air suspension AND front springs which would cost a small fortune, there so walked away, a shame as the finish was really nice! They could not offer me anything else with rear lounge and the payload I wanted.
 
Minxy Girl said:
... and her view are? I've managed to get more blood out of a stone!

Your credibility is wearing very thin now as can be seen from some funster postings ... hopefully you are not just winding everyone up with a 'story' as it causes mistrust of anyone asking questions in the future, so please stop messing about and give us proper comments, info etc.
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The list goes on I'm afraid, he's bought a van he doesn't like without hiswife actually seeing it, he's already got one that does the job which he could park at one of his other houses, he seems to be loaded ,boats, houses, 7 foot teles,, so could easily afford one of the other vans he craves, then starts going on about wires and stuff on this one when he had actually seen them before putting a deposit on it.
I could go on , just crazy.
Think he is just going for the longest thread about nothing.
 
596 said:
Sunlight had a huge presence in Dusseldorf, to be honest they looked like nice vans for the money as long as you knew what you were buying and happy, I did spend some time with a really nice guy selling them who spoke perfect English but they had nothing that would suit out needs e.g. rear lounge and 1,000kg payload
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1000kg payload??. Defo a wind up
 
596 said:
If there are any Swift motorhome owners on here could you check the finish on your van and let me know if yours is bodged as well, Thanks (y)
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I am afraid many Motorhome and caravan owners of all brands have been brain washed into believing that they are getting a hand built craftsman made product and the general acceptance of shoddy workmanship is beyond belief.
Our HYMER ( Joinery and cabinetry ) is actually far worse quality than the cheapest domestic rubbish.
You better not dare go on Swift talk and slate the product as you will be pilloried just as you have been on here .
I am being fussy about this HYMER thing according to an owners group !
All I can say if you have doubts now walk away as we are still having a nightmare and I hate the sight of our HYMER.
 
Khizzie said:
1000kg payload??. Defo a wind up
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That's probably the one bit that isn't a wind up, my vans payload is over 1350 kg and I'm only on a 4.5t chassis.

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