90 days or more in Europe

[Malcolm Bolt]

We have been in France 30 days now, seen about 10 police in passing, once you are there who is going to know how long you have been there especially if you do a week or two in Spain or somewhere.

When we came through Eurotunnel last month our reg was scanned and our passports.
When in Europe we may or may not be picked up. It is certainly possible that our reg may be picked up passively by road cameras and when we leave we will certainly be recorded. At that point our passport could be marked so as to prevent us re-entering the EU. If we leave without a good deal we are stuffed.

 

[Malcolm Bolt]

It's 90 days max in then out for 90 days then you can be in another 90 days

So it's useless for those wishing to stay from October to March in Europe

And that is exactly what I want to continue doing. SOB

 

[Just smiffy]

Can't see Britain ever doing that lol , they prefer to cut benefits than increase them. Could you imagine the uproar if they started sending pensioners to spain for 6 months every year.

There are some that get paid out there from us.....?

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[Northernraider]

There are some that get paid out there from us.....?

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No surprise there lol

 

[Malcolm Bolt]

From the Schengen website:

"Actually, the 180-day period keeps rolling. Therefore, anytime you wish to enter the Schengen, you just have to count backwards the last 180 days, and see if you have been present in the Schengen for more than 90 days throughout that period.
Check the Schengen visa calculator to calculate the remaining number of days that you can stay in the Schengen zone."

Mick

I am not quite sure how things will work for those already in Schengen on the day we leave.
Will the 90 days start on eg Nov 1st or will any days in the past 180 before end of Oct be taken into account.
Seems as if some of us wiil have to leave immediately. BUGGER

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[TheTwoOfUs]

Like I said, I’m not being drawn into a debate on Brexit... BTW, I disagree, because I think we’re really, really important! Where is your patriotism? Good god, you should be ashamed of yourself...

This forum is appalling and I’m choosing to leave. Are you always this argumentative?
You’ve repeatedly turned this into a Brexit debate and I do not want any part of it....

Jay, don't be too hasty. It is quite easy to get drawn into controversial posts (I should know) but the vast majority of posts on here are a combination of useful info and good humour. Stick with it and ignore the threads and posters that wind you up.

 

[mitzimad]

But for that we get access to lots of different things. For 35p per person per day!

Single market, freedom of movement, to name two that are most relevant to most people.

relevant to most people here more than half voted to leave so not relevant to them

 

[carolyn]

I am not quite sure how things will work for those already in Schengen on the day we leave.
Will the 90 days start on eg Nov 1st or will any days in the past 180 before end of Oct be taken into account.
Seems as if some of us wiil have to leave immediately. BUGGER

If the Schengen calculator system is the one that is used then I would imagine the clock will start ticking on the 1st of November. We leave before then for our hols, and had been leaving before March 31st 2019 so that had been how I had been doing my calculations last time round but who knows really! I might be doing my sums again for 31st January 2020 shortly.

 

[Southdowners]

Like I said, I’m not being drawn into a debate on Brexit... BTW, I disagree, because I think we’re really, really important! Where is your patriotism? Good god, you should be ashamed of yourself...

This forum is appalling and I’m choosing to leave. Are you always this argumentative?
You’ve repeatedly turned this into a Brexit debate and I do not want any part of it....

Jay Butts

Don’t leave....

I find that using the ignore button makes the forum a much more enjoyable place. You can ignore individuals and/or whole threads.

 

[Rob Hammond]

I’ve been fortunate to visit Shenzhen; flew to Hong Kong and then overland from there But it’s a long long way to go.

Ian

Haha ,good old predictive text

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[Northernraider]

Jay Butts

Don’t leave....

I find that using the ignore button makes the forum a much more enjoyable place. You can ignore individuals and/or whole threads.

I find not calling people "knuckle dragging ", or making stupid comments like " wheres your patriotism" makes the forum a better place to be honest.

Can rest assured if I'd said that id have been in Coventry by now.

 

[Allanm]

I must admit this thread and the one on the recent climate protestors has increased the size of my ignore list tremendously.

 

[Northernraider]

I am not quite sure how things will work for those already in Schengen on the day we leave.
Will the 90 days start on eg Nov 1st or will any days in the past 180 before end of Oct be taken into account.
Seems as if some of us wiil have to leave immediately. BUGGER

I think it would start from 1st November, I mean yes with a lot of detective work they could trace where you've been but without investigating they don't know if you've been in the Shengen zone all the time.
I mean for instance I came over in January but who's to say I've not spent that time in Albania Montenegro and Croatia. Yes they could investigate and prove I hadn't but are they really going to do that with every British vehicle that turns up at a port on 1st November?
I wouldn't have thought so , I reckon all changes would take effect from the day we left.

But who knows our goverment isn't exactly doing there best to leave on friendly terms

 

[Northernraider]

you sure he didnt just dive out of your way?

It could also have been because it's an ambulance, maybe thought it was an emergency ??

 

[barsteward]

I ignore no one
I may however have to reconsider my local pop corn supplier has just upgraded from a Reliant Robin to a Mercedes Sprinter.

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[Shrimp]

I am on Pension Credit and discovered, last year, that if I’m out of the UK for more than 4 weeks I could loose my money/fined/put in jail!!!
I suppose it’s only right, I earned my State Pension but the Credit makes it up as I I didn’t qualify for the full Pension.
’They’ don’t want to give me money that I won’t spend in UK.

 

[gus-lopez]

relevant to most people here more than half voted to leave so not relevant to them

More than half didn't vote.

I must admit this thread and the one on the recent climate protestors has increased the size of my ignore list tremendously.

I can never see the point of 'ignore' ? Vast amounts of people do it & end up not knowing things that affect them.

 

[Northernraider]

More than half didn't vote.

I can never see the point of 'ignore' ? Vast amounts of people do it & end up not knowing things that affect them.

Yes in actual fact 26% voted to leave
So who knows if it's relevant to the other 74% or not


The ignore button is essential in my opinion, I've quite a few on it ....I actually unignored one a few months ago but after his remarks on this thread lol ive put him back on. Northernraider

 

[gus-lopez]

I am on Pension Credit and discovered, last year, that if I’m out of the UK for more than 4 weeks I could loose my money/fined/put in jail!!!
I suppose it’s only right, I earned my State Pension but the Credit makes it up as I I didn’t qualify for the full Pension.
’They’ don’t want to give me money that I won’t spend in UK.

I wouldn't worry about it. You don't see many notifying them they are in hospital for more than 6 weeks or cancelling there doctors when going abroad for more then 3 months.
I take it by pension credit you mean it has been increased using the " minimum income guarantee (pension) " If so they did away with it for new claimanats on 6th May & all is under 'Universal credit ' now. It also prevents anyone on the basic state pension claiming the MIG for a younger spouse.

 

[Northernraider]

I am on Pension Credit and discovered, last year, that if I’m out of the UK for more than 4 weeks I could loose my money/fined/put in jail!!!
I suppose it’s only right, I earned my State Pension but the Credit makes it up as I I didn’t qualify for the full Pension.
’They’ don’t want to give me money that I won’t spend in UK.

Bit cheeky of them to be honest , it's your money to spend where you like.

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[Southdowners]

I can never see the point of 'ignore' ? Vast amounts of people do it & end up not knowing things that affect them.

I think the ignore feature is a good one.

I don’t think that the people on my ignore list could ever post things that would affect me. It’s fine to have differing opinions but the people I tend to ignore are the ones who post erroneous information to support their views.

 

[Allanm]

I think the ignore feature is a good one.

I don’t think that the people on my ignore list could ever post things that would affect me. It’s fine to have differing opinions but the people I tend to ignore are the ones who post erroneous information to support their views.

I agree, im not interested in reading any posts from people on my ignore list, the forums a better place for it.

 

[Glas Robin]

The thing that worries me about EU Exit is that it will not stop being divisive when we do eventually leave or otherwise decide to remain.

Life is going to be just like this thread 24/7 for the next quarter-century. It is an awful prospect. Truly miserable.

I voted strongly for one of the options. I used to tell people about it and try and convince them to my view.

I've now stopped telling people. I've realised we are all essentially split down the middle and no one is being persuaded. We can not be reconciled. A win for one side or the other will not bring us together as a nation - but equally there is no middle-ground compromise that will unite us all.

We've opened Pandora's box on a massively complex constitutional issue and turned it into a bitter binary one.

Please, for the Love of Thor will you all respect Jim's rule and stop talking about Brexit.

Please just stick to the questions asked - about the practical impact on our moho activities. 95% of the rest of us have absolutely no interest in watching a small number of posters trade insults/facts/arguments. It is sapping the life out of everything - to no avail.

 

[vwalan]

I think it would start from 1st November, I mean yes with a lot of detective work they could trace where you've been but without investigating they don't know if you've been in the Shengen zone all the time.
I mean for instance I came over in January but who's to say I've not spent that time in Albania Montenegro and Croatia. Yes they could investigate and prove I hadn't but are they really going to do that with every British vehicle that turns up at a port on 1st November?
I wouldn't have thought so , I reckon all changes would take effect from the day we left.

But who knows our goverment isn't exactly doing there best to leave on friendly terms

just about any police or country in the eu can just look on a computer and find out when you or your vehicle went into the eu. or left it.
its not just about schengen.
flashing of passports etc as you leave a country is all it takes to put you on the air.

 

[MisterB]

Bit cheeky of them to be honest , it's your money to spend where you like.

no, its not their money, its money paid as a benefit. the expectation being that that benefit would be spent within the UK economy - as its to help people living within the UK economy and the amount is derived at by using figures based on what things cost in the UK economy. i dont intend getting into a long winded discussion about the rights and abuses of benefit payments to anyone of any nationality, except to say that i believe that benefits (given - not paid) should be used within the economy of the country paying the benefit.

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[Northernraider]

no, its not their money, its money paid as a benefit. the expectation being that that benefit would be spent within the UK economy - as its to help people living within the UK economy and the amount is derived at by using figures based on what things cost in the UK economy. i dont intend getting into a long winded discussion about the rights and abuses of benefit payments to anyone of any nationality, except to say that i believe that benefits (given - not paid) should be used within the economy of the country paying the benefit.

Personally I'm of the believe that if you've paid in to a pension it isn't a benefit

 

[spitfire]

Personally I'm of the believe that if you've paid in to a pension it isn't a benefit

There is a difference between a contributory benefit and a non contributory one in how it is paid and how it is viewed

 

[Augusta08]

It's going to be interesting, however I'm sure that the EU will find a way to accommodate the "Snow Bird Overwinterers", and second home owners. I have been paying "Taxe d'habitation" for the last 15 years, they won't want to lose out this vital income stream. The Costa's would grind to halt, the EU will find a way to ensure this continues long after B.....t day.

 

[tacr2man]

I think it would start from 1st November, I mean yes with a lot of detective work they could trace where you've been but without investigating they don't know if you've been in the Shengen zone all the time.
I mean for instance I came over in January but who's to say I've not spent that time in Albania Montenegro and Croatia. Yes they could investigate and prove I hadn't but are they really going to do that with every British vehicle that turns up at a port on 1st November?
I wouldn't have thought so , I reckon all changes would take effect from the day we left.

But who knows our government isn't exactly doing there best to leave on friendly terms

It's possible their system will be the same as some of the parking company cctv ! I am in middle of second PCN for staying too long in car park , they said I entered at 0845 and left at 16:45 , the only problem is that they don't seem to have noticed I left at about 09:35 and came back into the park at 16:30 , luckily I have a parking reciept for a car park 30 miles away issued at 10:55 Had the same thing with local Motorway service area a few months back .

 

[MisterB]

Personally I'm of the believe that if you've paid in to a pension it isn't a benefit

the OP stated that it was a non contributory benefit, to top up their state pension, that would be stopped if they were out of the UK for more than 4 weeks. i also dont view a pension as a benefit, its a pension and thats why its called something other than a benefit ! a pension has been earned and i agree that you should be able to spend that wherever you wish

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