90 days or more in Europe

[Northernraider]

I have spent the last hour or so reading every post on this thread and I’m surprised at the negativity. We are and always will be Europeans: fact. We are still the fifth biggest economy in the world: fact. We will all survive Brexit because we have to; life will go on: fact. Now, EllM (the OP) asked about how we may be effected by Brexit and the only answer can be that we don’t know. All I can comment on is the absolute fact that mainland Europe makes a huge amount of money from British tourism (not just from MHers, we’re the thin end of the wedge), and I don’t think the member states will want to upset that balance in any way. Holidays in Europe have got progressively more expensive over the last 20 years which is why my family and many of my friends now choose to holiday outside Europe. To start applying tourism taxes would just be plain daft in exactly the same way it would be to enforce the time spent within the Schengen bloc to 90 days. All this would do is force the MHer to carry on as planned but spending money in another country. Hopefully, common sense (on both sides) will prevail. Hey! Motorhome Fun! The clue is in the name.

You do realise that the rest of Europe is swamped with Dutch, French, German, Swedish, Swiss, Austrian, Norwegian, etc etc etc tourists and that British are a very small percentage.

I think it's exceptionally niave and the old British bulldog attitude to think for one minute that they will all dry up as a result of less British tourists.
Won't happen....In fact many places may be better off without the UK drink bingers



Also to think they won't enforce the 90 days is ostrich syndrome at best

Unfortunately that is how we are in this mess as folk want to leave the club but keep the benefits

 

[PhilandMena]

I got a notification to tell me.BUSBY.

Yea but, Yea but your special and i'm a FLT.

 

[mitzimad]

We passed one roadblock , the gendarm stepped out with his stick but as soon as. He saw our reg he just stepped back as we went past.

you sure he didnt just dive out of your way?

 

[PhilandMena]

You do realise that the rest of Europe is swamped with Dutch, French, German, Swedish, Swiss, Austrian, Norwegian, etc etc etc tourists and that British are a very small percentage.

I think it's exceptionally niave and the old British bulldog attitude to think for one minute that they will all dry up as a result of less British tourists.
Won't happen....In fact many places may be better off without the UK drink bingers



Also to think they won't enforce the 90 days is ostrich syndrome at best

Unfortunately that is how we are in this mess as folk want to leave the club but keep the benefits

Don't forget the Romans.

 

[Jay Butts]

You do realise that the rest of Europe is swamped with Dutch, French, German, Swedish, Swiss, Austrian, Norwegian, etc etc etc tourists and that British are a very small percentage.

I think it's exceptionally niave and the old British bulldog attitude to think for one minute that they will all dry up as a result of less British tourists.
Won't happen....In fact many places may be better off without the UK drink bingers



Also to think they won't enforce the 90 days is ostrich syndrome at best

Unfortunately that is how we are in this mess as folk want to leave the club but keep the benefits

Having read the threads before they were deleted, this is exactly the reply I would expect from you. Hilarious....

British tourists spend £33bn a year in Europe

A failure to reach a Brexit deal on free travel across Europe will jeopardise more than £33 billion spent by British tourists on the Continent, according to tou

www.thetimes.co.uk

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[Northernraider]

What has it got to do with Australia or New Zealand when their combined GDP is about one quarter of ours. There is more people living inside the M25 than Australia and Europe makes how much from these countries? Do you actually know the money the European mainland makes from GB alone? The money brought in by the countries you are supporting is pin money. They get treated badly because they have abused every system available for years as did those you are defending... please do not state opinion as fact.
The British spent £33b on tourism in 2017, I can’t even find the figures on the Australians and Kiwis..

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/british-tourists-spend-33bn-a-year-in-europe-hl7bwvjc7

Having spent 10 months now in Spain and Portugal I've seen maybe a dozen UK vans in comparison to literally hundreds of Dutch German and French
The aire I'm on tonight in Leon I'm the only brit van in 30

 

[Northernraider]

British tourists spend £33bn a year in Europe

A failure to reach a Brexit deal on free travel across Europe will jeopardise more than £33 billion spent by British tourists on the Continent, according to tou

www.thetimes.co.uk

33 billion is childsplay compared to what other nations spend

 

[Jay Butts]

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33 billion is childsplay compared to what other nations spend

 

[PhilandMena]

Having spent 10 months now in Spain and Portugal I've seen maybe a dozen UK vans in comparison to literally hundreds of Dutch German and French
The aire I'm on tonight in Leon I'm the only brit van in 30

As an aside how is that gorgeous pup doing now ? Did you get another one too !

 

[Jay Butts]

Having spent 10 months now in Spain and Portugal I've seen maybe a dozen UK vans in comparison to literally hundreds of Dutch German and French
The aire I'm on tonight in Leon I'm the only brit van in 30

Exactly my point! Did you read my post?

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[Northernraider]

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We already established earlier in the thread that while these big numbers may seem a lot to a person, when it comes to countries finances they are tiny.

There are probably more motorhomes in one region of France than there is registered in the whole of the UK.


And then Britain is one of 27 European countries so a small percentage of the tourist trade too. Not to mention the tourists from outside of Europe.

We really are not that important

 

[Jay Butts]

Right, Northernraider, step off your orange box mate! You’ve made your point.... it’s boring! That’s the reason they’re getting deleted! Yaaaaaswwwwnnn!

 

[Jay Butts]

Please read my post properly, follow the words with your finger if you need to. MHers bring nothing into continental European tourism, my point was tourism as a whole.
I’m not being drawn into a Brexit debate with you, knuckle dragging your way through the threads...if nothing else, you’ve been good for a laugh.

 

[jumartoo]

I imagine that the biggest spenders are holiday makers on their fortnight jollies who eat out every night and drink all day and night. These will still be able to visit any EU country.

Motorhomers, especially long stayers, don't generally spend as much.

Edit
Was typing before the previous post appeared.

 

[Northernraider]

Please read my post properly, follow the words with your finger if you need to. MHers bring nothing into continental European tourism, my point was tourism as a whole.
I’m not being drawn into a Brexit debate with you, knuckle dragging your way through the threads...if nothing else, you’ve been good for a laugh.

Read my response

I said all tourists not just motorhomers

I've also been on many package holidays ....again Brits are way outnumbered by other nationalities

So once again we aren't that important

And refrain from the personal insults ?

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[Jay Butts]

I imagine that the biggest spenders are holiday makers on their fortnight jollies who eat out every night and drink all day and night. These will still be able to visit any EU country.

Motorhomers, especially long stayers, don't generally spend as much.

Yeah, again my point is that it’s getting increasing more expensive for the two weekers as well! If tourism taxes get added Joe Public will holiday outside Europe!

 

[busby]

Having spent 10 months now in Spain and Portugal I've seen maybe a dozen UK vans in comparison to literally hundreds of Dutch German and French
The aire I'm on tonight in Leon I'm the only brit van in 30

That's because they are all on sites,,BUSBY,

 

[PhilandMena]

I imagine that the biggest spenders are holiday makers on their fortnight jollies who eat out every night and drink all day and night. These will still be able to visit any EU country.

Motorhomers, especially long stayers, don't generally spend as much.

Edit
Was typing before the previous post appeared.

Yes and no, I think. Yes you are right in that those on a 2 week holiday splash the cash. However, even a FLT like me will spend a few thousand spondoolies over the few months I'm free loading in Europe. It all adds up.

 

[Jay Butts]

Read my response

I said all tourists not just motorhomers

I've also been on many package holidays ....again Brits are way outnumbered by other nationalities

So once again we aren't that important

And refrain from the personal insults ?

Like I said, I’m not being drawn into a debate on Brexit... BTW, I disagree, because I think we’re really, really important! Where is your patriotism? Good god, you should be ashamed of yourself...

This forum is appalling and I’m choosing to leave. Are you always this argumentative?
You’ve repeatedly turned this into a Brexit debate and I do not want any part of it....

 

[Northernraider]

That's because they are all on sites,,BUSBY,

Are there no other nationalities on the sites?

I wasn't aware they were all British

Apart from Benidorm of course

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[Northernraider]

Like I said, I’m not being drawn into a debate on Brexit... BTW, I disagree, because I think we’re really, really important! Where is your patriotism? Good god, you should be ashamed of yourself...

This forum is appalling and I’m choosing to leave. Are you always this argumentative?
You’ve repeatedly turned this into a Brexit debate and I do not want any part of it....

I never mentioned brexit
You did

I mentioned that you seem to be under the illusion that without British tourists the eu will go out of business

They won't because we are a drop in a very big pool.

Show me where in my posts to you I mentioned brexit?

I can show you mentioning twice so far and I can also show you using personal attacks which is against rule 1 of this forum.

 

[busby]

Are there no other nationalities on the sites?

I wasn't aware they were all British

Apart from Benidorm of course

Got better and more interesting things to do than go around looking at number plates.BUSBY?

 

[busby]

We already established earlier in the thread that while these big numbers may seem a lot to a person, when it comes to countries finances they are tiny.

There are probably more motorhomes in one region of France than there is registered in the whole of the UK.


And then Britain is one of 27 European countries so a small percentage of the tourist trade too. Not to mention the tourists from outside of Europe.

We really are not that important

We were in 1914 and 1939.BUSBY.

 

[Northernraider]

We were in 1914 and 1939.BUSBY.

We didn't do that alone either

 

[Rob Hammond]

Not only can you, but you'll have to. That 90 days starts when you enter the Schengen area - it includes travel to and from Spain.

Have we ever been part of the schengen area ?

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[busby]

You do realise that the rest of Europe is swamped with Dutch, French, German, Swedish, Swiss, Austrian, Norwegian, etc etc etc tourists and that British are a very small percentage.

I think it's exceptionally niave and the old British bulldog attitude to think for one minute that they will all dry up as a result of less British tourists.
Won't happen....In fact many places may be better off without the UK drink bingers



Also to think they won't enforce the 90 days is ostrich syndrome at best

Unfortunately that is how we are in this mess as folk want to leave the club but keep the benefits

Swedes,Norwegians Swiss and Austrians,?? Think I have seen more Southern Irish over my last 18 years of touring Europe except for when I toured Sweden.BUSBY.

 

[Northernraider]

Got better and more interesting things to do than go around looking at number plates.BUSBY?

So really it was a pointless post then.

This is the problem how people then get accused of being argumentative.

 

[PhilandMena]

I can show you mentioning twice so far and I can also show you using personal attacks which is against rule 1 of this forum.

Agreed, arguments and differences of opinion need to be undertaken with a bit of good manners !

 

[busby]

We didn't do that alone either

But we were there..when needed. And when i say WE i was not referring to myself,,even I am not that old.
BUSBY.

 

[Northernraider]

Swedes,Norwegians Swiss and Austrians,?? Think I have seen more Southern Irish over my last 18 years of touring Europe except for when I toured Sweden.BUSBY.

A few of those countries goverments actually pay to send their elderly to Spain over the winter as it's cheaper than cold weather payments .

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