THIS week I bought

[Armytwowheels]

The bottles are I think ...But the filler cap and filler pipe aren't

That's a posh looking gas locker then. Ours have always been a sealed fibreglass shell on a pull out shelf.

 

[Northernraider]

That's a posh looking gas locker then. Ours have always been a sealed fibreglass shell on a pull out shelf.

Aye mine are a sealed locker too always have been.

 

[56337]

Just out of interest @iDriver, why did you not fit your gas-it bottles in the original gas locker?

They are in the original gas locker.

 

[56337]

Like I said it's your van

I've used the tunnel once and turned it off once.

I live in the van so it isn't stored and my insurance are fine with that after all it's a motorhome.
Might be a different matter if yours goes on fire etc and an inspector spots a pipe not in the proper locker.

So your only retort is that you have only been on a ferry/tunnel once and you live in your full time like the very small minority. The rest of us use them to travel to and throughout Europe and put them in storage.

As for a fire because the content of a 600mm long pipe leaked are minuscule compared to a low pressure side leak emptying the content of the tank.

 

[jezport]

And pipes from the tank(s) to the Reg and Reg yo appliances are pressurised all the time and able to leak the contents of the whole tank into the habitation area. The fill pipe is isolated from the tank
once filling is complete, so worst case scenario is that it develops a leak an the contents of a whole 600mm pipe drop through the floor?

As for never turning your gas off, that’s fine it’s your van. Try telling the Ferry/Eurotunnel that and see how you get on? Likewise, see how your insurance company respond when you tell them you store it with the gas on?

The worst scenario is you are filling your tank, the pipe splits and you pour liquid gas into the inside if your van. The pump will not stop running in this scenario. If the fill point is external or in a gas locker the gas or liquid would be evident the minute it started leaking and wouldnt get in the van.

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[Northernraider]

So your only retort is that you have only been on a ferry/tunnel once and you live in your full time like the very small minority. The rest of us use them to travel to and throughout Europe and put them in storage.

As for a fire because the content of a 600mm long pipe leaked are minuscule compared to a low pressure side leak emptying the content of the tank.

The worst scenario is you are filling your tank, the pipe splits and you pour liquid gas into the inside if your van. The pump will not stop running in this scenario. If the fill point is external or in a gas locker the gas or liquid would be evident the minute it started leaking and wouldnt get in the van.

Yep that was my point..nothing to do with the contents of a 60mm pipe as he keeps stating

If that filler point leaks the gas is going straight in to the van.

I'm pretty confident any qualified gas tech woukd condem that where it's fitted but it's a risk you take I suppose.


Incidently op I've just spent 10 months touring Europe and I'm returning for a year in January.

It doesn't matter where the van is the bottom line is they have a gas locker for a reason although by those pics yours doesn't seem a sealed unit anyway.



Once again its your van and your choice you really don't have to keep replying if you're happy with it crack on I just said personally I wouldn't do it.

 

[56337]

The worst scenario is you are filling your tank, the pipe splits and you pour liquid gas into the inside if your van. The pump will not stop running in this scenario. If the fill point is external or in a gas locker the gas or liquid would be evident the minute it started leaking and wouldnt get in the van.

How is the gas going to get out of the airtight box and boxing into the Motorhome rather than exiting via the drop vent?

It is effectively an extension of the original gas locker.

 

[jezport]

A gas locker is sealed from the habitation area. As far as I can see your filler point is inside a cupboard inside the van
Maybe @dave newell lvs can clear this up as a qualified professional

 

[gus-lopez]

If you are supposed to keep all the pipework in the locker or outside the van how are you going to get gas to your oven, fridge, hob and heating? If you scroll and look at subsequent posts you will see the fill point is in fact enclosed in an airtight box with its own drop vent, isolating the fill point and connections from the habitation area. I didn't see much point in posting a picture of a box, it tells the viewer nothing.

The gas in the pipework from the regulator is just that ....gas =vapour what you are filling with is liquid.

How is the gas going to get out of the airtight box and boxing into the Motorhome rather than exiting via the drop vent?

It is effectively an extension of the original gas locker.

You are missing the point .What everyone is saying is not IF it leaks AFTER filling but if it leaks WHEN you are filling.
that loop of pipe inside the motorhome will pour liquid in like a water hose in seconds.

& yes I've read the lot from start to finish.

 

[56337]

The gas in the pipework from the regulator is just that ....gas =vapour what you are filling with is liquid.


You are missing the point .What everyone is saying is not IF it leaks AFTER filling but if it leaks WHEN you are filling.
that loop of pipe inside the motorhome will pour liquid in like a water hose in seconds.

& yes I've read the lot from start to finish.

I am not missing anything, yet again another one posts without even trying to understand what is written and does not answer the question he has quoted. I ask again, now the back of the fill adapter and its coupling are in an air tight box, with its own drop vent to the a outside of the Motorhome and all the pipe work is boxed in and sealed again with its own drop vent to the outside how is this any different to having it all in the original gas locker. I have effectively created a second gas locker, if anything that section of the gas system is better isolated from the habitation area than the original gas locker.

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[Northernraider]

I am not missing anything, yet again another one posts without even trying to understand what is written and does not answer the question he has quoted. I ask again, now the back of the fill adapter and its coupling are in an air tight box, with its own drop vent to the a outside of the Motorhome and all the pipe work is boxed in and sealed again with its own drop vent to the outside how is this any different to having it all in the original gas locker. I have effectively created a second gas locker, if anything that section of the gas system is better isolated from the habitation area than the original gas locker.

That isn't the picture you've displayed and only stated these things after people commented on it.

End of the day people are simply trying to advise you of something that may save yiur life.

We aren't in your van it makes not a bit of difference to us either way.

 

[Minxy]

Any lpg in the habitation area is dangerous, but it’s heavier than air which is why we have floor vents.

Yes and no ... it is always dangerous BUT the difference is that normal hab LPG goes via the regulator so the pressure is regulated/reduced, whereas if it comes form the filler pipe it is at much higher pressure and liquid which drop vents might have difficulty in dealing with unless there is one directly below the leak itself.

 

[Minxy]

I am not missing anything, yet again another one posts without even trying to understand what is written and does not answer the question he has quoted. I ask again, now the back of the fill adapter and its coupling are in an air tight box, with its own drop vent to the a outside of the Motorhome and all the pipe work is boxed in and sealed again with its own drop vent to the outside how is this any different to having it all in the original gas locker. I have effectively created a second gas locker, if anything that section of the gas system is better isolated from the habitation area than the original gas locker.

... perhaps in retrospect posting photos of your plastic box etc would have made it more obvious that you've done this and save knickers getting in a twist!

 

[56337]

That isn't the picture you've displayed and only stated these things after people commented on it.

After Minxy Girl raised the issue at the outset and LONG before you even got involved I explained I had posted the pic of the pipe work and filling point to show the setup. I then explained that it was in an air tight box with their own drop vents. If people want to see a picture of what is effectively a plain wooden box then they really need to get out more. That's like talking people through the layout of their engine bay with the bonnet closed.

So no, your not saving my life, or even being constructive, as far as I can see your just ignoring the bits of the replies that don't fit your narrative.

 

[Northernraider]

After Minxy Girl raised the issue at the outset and LONG before you even got involved I explained I had posted the pic of the pipe work and filling point to show the setup. I then explained that it was in an air tight box with their own drop vents. If people want to see a picture of what is effectively a plain wooden box then they really need to get out more. That's like talking people through the layout of their engine bay with the bonnet closed.

So no, your not saving my life, or even being constructive, as far as I can see your just ignoring the bits of the replies that don't fit your narrative.

Whatever

Its strange but there's several people all getting the same impression

For the 5th time I couldn't really care less

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[56337]

Whatever

Its strange but there's several people all getting the same impression

For the 5th time I couldn't really care less

As for "several people all getting the same impression" I will refer you to R v Turnbull 1976

As for someone who has to say 'For the 5th time I couldn't really care less', the irony in that statement is highly amusing..

 

[Northernraider]

As for "several people all getting the same impression" I will refer you to R v Turnbull 1976

As for someone who has to say 'For the 5th time I couldn't really care less', the irony in that statement is highly amusing..

Yet still you feel the need to keep replying


Its pretty obvious you haven't a clue what your doing buddy. You'd be better getting someone who does to fix it properly.

Some folk are best avoiding diy

Now I'm not gonna waste time answering you anymore...your so obviously an expert.

This thread is for purchases of the week not diy disaster and 3 pages discussing your gas installation is more than enough.

 

[Minxy]

Children, children ... leave the teddies in the pram!

 

[56337]

Yet still you feel the need to keep replying

I'm not the one who keeps insisting he couldn't care less yet feels the need to keep the discussion going .

The great thing about this forum is that it doesn't allow people to remove their own posts, so the chronology of who said what and when is there for everyone to read.

I'm sure admin are more than capable of editing out posts if they feel they are not appropriate for the thread.

As you now feel the need for sniping remarks, I will simply defer to the sound advice of Mark Twain.

 

[EssexBoy]

Too be fair to the OP, it was made clear in at least two posts that I read, that the pictures showed the install BEFORE the pipework & filler was boxed in over a drop vent.

However, an early picture of the finished cupboard would easily have dispelled any confusion...

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[Northernraider]

Well you will keep quoting me which sends me alerts to more of your drivel


So Today's purchase

So I don't have to listen to Muppets

 

[Northernraider]

Too be fair to the OP, it was made clear in at least two posts that I read, that the pictures showed the install BEFORE the pipework & filler was boxed in over a drop vent.

However, an early picture of the finished cupboard would easily have dispelled any confusion...

Yeah however that was after at least one person had mentioned it wasn't safe.
There was conveniently no picture of the sealed box or no one would have mentioned it.

 

[Manic]

Be careful people, Coventry isn’t far away

 

[jezport]

I am not missing anything, yet again another one posts without even trying to understand what is written and does not answer the question he has quoted. I ask again, now the back of the fill adapter and its coupling are in an air tight box, with its own drop vent to the a outside of the Motorhome and all the pipe work is boxed in and sealed again with its own drop vent to the outside how is this any different to having it all in the original gas locker. I have effectively created a second gas locker, if anything that section of the gas system is better isolated from the habitation area than the original gas locker.

I was quoting from the photo you put.

How have you got an airtight box with a gas drop? Its either air tight or has a gas drop.

 

[Armytwowheels]

I hope you lot have all stopped talking about sodding gas bottles by the time I post my BIG news on my BIG purchase tomorrow............Just saying like! I don't want anyone stealing my thunder.

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[Northernraider]

I hope you lot have all stopped talking about sodding gas bottles by the time I post my BIG news on my BIG purchase tomorrow............Just saying like! I don't want anyone stealing my thunder.

Ooh interesting but haven't you already bought the new van

You can't get much bigger than that unless it's a house

 

[Armytwowheels]

Ooh interesting but haven't you already bought the new van

You can't get much bigger than that unless it's a house

Nope, not yet. Unless you count a small deposit, but it's not actually ours yet.

 

[Northernraider]

Nope, not yet. Unless you count a small deposit, but it's not actually ours yet.

Ah I thought you had it now

Did you get the dethleffs sold ?

 

[Armytwowheels]

Ah I thought you had it now

Did you get the dethleffs sold ?

Yep, she's gone. We are currently in bricks and mortar. Cannot wait to get back in a motorhome. All of our belongings are in storage in my mum's garage, apart from two suitcases of clothes and we are going stir crazy.

 

[Northernraider]

Yep, she's gone. We are currently in bricks and mortar. Cannot wait to get back in a motorhome. All of our belongings are in storage in my mum's garage, apart from two suitcases of clothes and we are going stir crazy.

I'll bet ...I was glad I found a replacement only a few days after selling franky.

I was also glad my mum was in hospital and not in her house as I had the entire contents of my van in the house and every room was a mess lol.

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