The resurrection of Doc, bringing a 20 year old neismann Bischoff Flair back to life after 12 years off road. (133 Viewers)

[Treeeev]

OK we have the fridge out and turned upside down . View attachment 942943


I've given it a bit of a shake and a wobble , Just smiffy seems to think we should hear something, burbling or whatever, and we can't. For those who tried this did you hear any burbling? There's no smell of anything as far as I can see and no visible signs of any leaks . The elements on the back are rusty as always as the powder coating has flaked off here and there but looks better than most of my previous vans fridges did.

When I did my fridge, I can’t recall any gurgling (but it was about 20 years ago). I just left upside down overnight. Fingers crossed for a positive result

Cheers

Trevor

 

[JockandRita]

Jock, if this battery is gone on the control panel on tams van what are the consequences of it… we have changed the hab battery for only on battery but it is a known good fully charged one and we are getting the same symptoms as he got last night with the panel going off as soon as he turns it on…

It would certainly affect operation of the control panel Garry, as it retains power to the panel when in standby mode, and at 20 x years old, it's well past it's service life.
For the sake of a tenner at most, I'd be replacing it, especially if you are handy with intricate soldering. I'm not, nor do I have the right kit, but my local TV repair guy sorted it out for me.

Look on the back of the panel for leakage. Mine was showing signs of corrosion, but not liquid leakage, as others have done.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Northernraider]

I used a 2 x pin G4 (warm white) capsule LED bulb, as I did on all those over the vanity area mirrors, but using bright white bulbs. The difference was amazing, and pleases the Boss who uses the mirrors far more than I need to.


But what does it read an hour after unplugging the EHU?

BTW Tam, those two switches on the bottom row of the panel, need to be off if not required, (or are optional equipment), especially the Duo Control anti frost heaters.

If it's the same panel, on the PCB at the rear of the panel. I have just replaced ours with a genuine Varta one. I was alerted that they can leak over time, causing damage to the PCB.

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smiffy. That's not a Turkish pipe your about to suck on Garry.

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Cheers,

Jock.

OK thats cool as I ordered a load of those 2 pin g4 bulbs .



Those bottom switches on my panel seem to work the gas valves. if I turn them off my gas don't work


I'll remove the control panel and look at that battery.


We took off the 2 batteries this morning and put 1 back on that Just smiffy had and now the control panel won't come on and stay on someone once told me if you do something and something don't work then reverse what you did to see if it does again so will have to try again with the 2 batteries.

Something isn't right but not sure what

 

[scotzsue]

For the fridge and everything else.

 

[berni109]

Know it's not a pressing issue at the mo but there's a s/h victron shunt on eBay

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I have a Chinese coulomb meter on my van that is far more functional than that and about the same price but if I linked to it Lenny HB would tell you it's a load of Chinese crap.

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[fat haggis]

Van looks great tam. More comfortable and so well made. You’ll have it running perfectly well soon.

 

[funflair]

OK thats cool as I ordered a load of those 2 pin g4 bulbs .



Those bottom switches on my panel seem to work the gas valves. if I turn them off my gas don't work


I'll remove the control panel and look at that battery.


We took off the 2 batteries this morning and put 1 back on that Just smiffy had and now the control panel won't come on and stay on someone once told me if you do something and something don't work then reverse what you did to see if it does again so will have to try again with the 2 batteries.

Something isn't right but not sure what

I know the instructions say hold the ON button for two seconds but sometimes I believe people have had to hold it in for a lot longer, didn't you have that Jock JockandRita.

 

[Lenny HB]

Needs some photos of your electrics Tam

 

[Flairy]

Every time you do something I wonder did i ought to check mine because mines older.

 

[Lenny HB]

We took off the 2 batteries this morning and put 1 back on that @Just smiffy had and now the control panel won't come on and stay on someone once told me if you do something and something don't work then reverse what you did to see if it does again so will have to try again with the 2 batteries.

When changing batteries make sure you turn off the control panel a leave it a few minutes before isolating the batteries.

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[Langtoftlad]

Every time you do something I wonder did i ought to check mine because mines older.View attachment 943006

Why is your water pump led amber not green

 

[JockandRita]

I know the instructions say hold the ON button for two seconds but sometimes I believe people have had to hold it in for a lot longer, didn't you have that Jock JockandRita.

Ah yes, I'd forgotten about that Martin, but now remember you coming to my rescue thanks, with the advice which was................"Hold down the ON button for several seconds". after 2 x failed attempts, (too short a time), I ended up holding it down for about 20 - 30 x seconds, when the panel suddenly sprang back to life. smiffy & Northernraider

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[JockandRita]

Why is your water pump led amber not green

All our switches have an amber LED when in the on position Stephen. (See Tam's photo earlier this morning).

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Grasmere9]

All our switches have an amber LED when in the on position Stephen. (See Tam's photo earlier this morning).

Cheers,

Jock.

Same here

 

[gus-lopez]

Yep position 3 is empty and despite it saying sos lights on I never had any

probably because no fuse in? You would still get the panel message though?

Yeah I saw that .. other side of the country though unfortunately

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For those who tried this did you hear any burbling?

No .

Can u get 3 way fridges re gassed if the ammonia has leaked out ( obviously find the leak at the same time

I only know of one person who has ever done it.I could probably have done it myself ,when working & with access to ammonia but it would also involve being able to weld.

Just fit this… give virtually the same capacity as a pair of gels and 1/3rd of the weight.

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[Flairy]

Mines always been one green one amber?

 

[corconx]

OK we have the fridge out and turned upside down . View attachment 942943


I've given it a bit of a shake and a wobble , Just smiffy seems to think we should hear something, burbling or whatever, and we can't. For those who tried this did you hear any burbling? There's no smell of anything as far as I can see and no visible signs of any leaks . The elements on the back are rusty as always as the powder coating has flaked off here and there but looks better than most of my previous vans fridges did.

Just love the look on Gary’s face - crowbar in hand, ah no it’s not it’s Henry. Now he’s stuck there. Hope doors are behind him

 

[Northernraider]

Right , we connected one of the other batteries back up and it made no difference. I removed the control panel and yes that small battery has leaked or corroded so I'll order one of those. However as I get no gas or anything with the panel off I cleaned the small battery just now and refitted the panel. Tried switching it on... the first 2 attempts it just beeped and went off again but 3rd time it stayed on and is still on at the minute will see how that fairs. I've got EHU back on and charger connected to recharge batteries but they still showing 13+ volts so I think they're OK just now and it's either that battery on control panel causing probs or something else

I did find put though that the satellite system was wired direct to batteries and I've now removed that cable .. so only the power cables now running ro the batteries from the electric boxes in big locker so I'm wondering why they have the batteries si far away and can I relocate battery to inside that big locker next to the charger.

So for now the panel is on I'll see how that goes overnight , I'll order a battery for the controller. The fridge is upside down till tomorrow. Just smiffy is watching gran prix and I'm going on roof after lunch to remove satellite dish


Oh and that short arse scratched me new van nae patience he has .



That big box is definitely charger and not an inverter

Photo of electrics for Lenny HB

Photo of battery in control panel

I've not had a chance to read all comments etc so if I've missed any ill get them later

 

[corconx]

Right , we connected one of the other batteries back up and it made no difference. I removed the control panel and yes that small battery has leaked or corroded so I'll order one of those. However as I get no gas or anything with the panel off I cleaned the small battery just now and refitted the panel. Tried switching it on... the first 2 attempts it just beeped and went off again but 3rd time it stayed on and is still on at the minute will see how that fairs. I've got EHU back on and charger connected to recharge batteries but they still showing 13+ volts so I think they're OK just now and it's either that battery on control panel causing probs or something else

I did find put though that the satellite system was wired direct to batteries and I've now removed that cable .. so only the power cables now running ro the batteries from the electric boxes in big locker so I'm wondering why they have the batteries si far away and can I relocate battery to inside that big locker next to the charger.

So for now the panel is on I'll see how that goes overnight , I'll order a battery for the controller. The fridge is upside down till tomorrow. Just smiffy is watching gran prix and I'm going on roof after lunch to remove satellite dish


Oh and that short arse scratched me new van nae patience he has .



That big box is definitely charger and not an inverter View attachment 943033View attachment 943035


Photo of electrics for Lenny HB

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Photo of battery in control panel View attachment 943037View attachment 943044

I've not had a chance to read all comments etc so if I've missed any ill get them later

Best of luck Lenny HB that lot sends me in a panic. No good with electrics.

Carol

 

[Drexxer]

Tam, when I did the fridge upside down thing with my old van, I was shown a restriction in the rear pipework, rather than a nice sweeping bend on the top right if I remember correctly, using a nylon hammer I gave it a clout and it disturbed the sediment and you could hear the liquid inside gushing through the pipework

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[intokenny]

Lenny HB will either be doing a runner or be ecstatic at the thought of playing with those electrics, i'm not sure which!!!!

 

[Lenny HB]

Best of luck Lenny HB that lot sends me in a panic. No good with electrics.

Carol

Looks beautiful but can't really see it properly at the moment. Sitting outside van in the sunshine at Bodiam Castle.

 

[gus-lopez]

yes that small battery has leaked or corroded so I'll order one of those.

have you or Gary got a soldering iron & solder?

Photo of battery in control panel

That's minging!! amazed it is doing anything?

 

[gus-lopez]

when he does do humans

I like how you phrase it

 

[Reallyretired]

I've stuck to it since February only milo was getting in the bed but that stops now too ...its too high for any of them to jump in and I've a door to close it off. To be honest the other 3 aren't fussed only milo objects but he will cope. I want my bedroom and bathroom hair free.

It won't be
Our dogs don't go into the washroom but there are always more hairs there than anywhere else.

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[Abacist]

Just take care with that control panel because mine shut down and would not come back to life. Sent to Appletree for repair who advised computer chip had lost its program or got corrupt so then had to have new control panel and fuse/distribution box as only N & B have their program for the chip! Probably needs power maintained, hence the little battery.

 

[the1andonly]

But no individual door for the toilet.

Some people never ever close them, especialy at home, i never close a door (except outside ones) cant see point. (Its too small)

 

[Mousy]

Saw this and thought of you Tam….

 

[Outdoors Dad]

IMO I think threads and content like this would make good video via a YouTube channel. Especially when/because the OP travels so much. It's a lot of work though having a successful YouTube channel, but I'd watch it. I like stuff to be real and not made up for effect and I like dogs.

 

[Barriesimpson]

Some people never ever close them, especialy at home, i never close a door (except outside ones) cant see point. (Its too small)

But we are all different and I cannot use a toilet without closing the door

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