The resurrection of Doc, bringing a 20 year old neismann Bischoff Flair back to life after 12 years off road.

[Mikey RV]

Have you tapped the coolant pipes now fridge is running.

 

[Langtoftlad]

If going the compressor route I would still fit 500 to 600 ah of Lithium.

Could he [you] fit just the 305ah he's getting a quote for... and then add another one if he finds he needs it and/or when Moby sells and he feels he has a bit more cash?

 

[Northernraider]

Sold my last van with them no problem at an agreed price with in a fortnight like I said you can always say no.

Sold my last van with them no problem at an agreed price with in a fortnight like I said you can always say no.

And what was your last van?


I want 15k for moby and they'd want 3k commission.

Different with a van that's upwards of 30/40k as that's finance /bank loan territory so maybe folk would use motorhome depot then .

With a 15k van it's unlikely to be finance .


Motorhome depot tie you in to a contract where they have a fixed term to sell it .. and if you sell it yourself in that time they still want paying.

I've probably sold more motors in my life than the local broker has lol.

It's not selling because its either too dear or the interested parties don't appreciate the off grid setup it has. If not sold by the time the 30 day listing expires which is about 18 days yet then I'll remove the victron and lithium , put cheap basic stuff in and sell it cheaper. ... or it will lie there till spring next year.

 

[Northernraider]

You need to make your mind up if you are going to fit Lithium.
More complicated now for you, the way you used to use the van a compressor fridge would have been ideal.
Now you are full timing winter becomes a problem with hardly any solar output in the UK but if you are always go south probably worth it.
If going the compressor route I would still fit 500 to 600 ah of Lithium.

I can't understand why I'd need 5 or 600ah lithium. I had 700 ah lead acid on the euramobil that ran a household fridge . 305 ah lithium is equivalent to 600ah lead acid ain't it .

My previous vans only had a couple of hundred ah batteries in them.

I'm not that heavy a user of electric . No satellite telly etc . I'm not running air fryers coffee machines etc .

Lights , fridge, water pump , TV that's about it.

 

[WESTY66]

I can't understand why I'd need 5 or 600ah lithium. I had 700 ah lead acid on the euramobil that ran a household fridge . 305 ah lithium is equivalent to 600ah lead acid ain't it .

My previous vans only had a couple of hundred ah batteries in them.

I'm not that heavy a user of electric . No satellite telly etc . I'm not running air fryers coffee machines etc .

Lights , fridge, water pump , TV that's about it.

I think it’s called “future proofing” Tam, well worth it!!
Stop skimping on YOUR HOME. Do now whilst you’re in the U.K. and can get everything, do it right, do it once

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[ALI G]

And what was your last van?


I want 15k for moby and they'd want 3k commission.

Different with a van that's upwards of 30/40k as that's finance /bank loan territory so maybe folk would use motorhome depot then .

With a 15k van it's unlikely to be finance .


Motorhome depot tie you in to a contract where they have a fixed term to sell it .. and if you sell it yourself in that time they still want paying.

I've probably sold more motors in my life than the local broker has lol.

It's not selling because its either too dear or the interested parties don't appreciate the off grid setup it has. If not sold by the time the 30 day listing expires which is about 18 days yet then I'll remove the victron and lithium , put cheap basic stuff in and sell it cheaper. ... or it will lie there till spring next year.

2014 hobby 2 1/2 years ago, well it's your call if you want the stress of moby sitting all winter but it's stressing you out now. Do they really have a 3 grand mark up on 15 grand? Thats what they made on mine 40 grand +.

 

[Lenny HB]

I can't understand why I'd need 5 or 600ah lithium. I had 700 ah lead acid on the euramobil that ran a household fridge . 305 ah lithium is equivalent to 600ah lead acid ain't it .

You keep saying the batteries and solar couldn't really cope with the fridge in the Euromobile.

Do it right first time you won't have to do it again.

This van is going to use a lot more power and you are going to be using it full time.
You also said you are planning to spend more time in one place rather than moving on every couple of days.

 

[Lenny HB]

Could he [you] fit just the 305ah he's getting a quote for... and then add another one if he finds he needs it and/or when Moby sells and he feels he has a bit more cash?

He could but he will probably just struggle by and not bother to upgrade.

 

[Northernraider]

I think it’s called “future proofing” Tam, well worth it!!
Stop skimping on YOUR HOME. Do now whilst you’re in the U.K. and can get everything, do it right, do it once

And then discover its not suitable sell it next year for a huge loss.

I've only driven the van twice lol and both times it's ran like a bag of shite. The engine needs attention as do the breaks lol.

I future proofed moby . Spent more money on it than I've ever spent improving a vehicle and can't get it sold

 

[Northernraider]

S

2014 hobby 2 1/2 years ago, well it's your call if you want the stress of moby sitting all winter but it's stressing you out now. Do they really have a 3 grand mark up on 15 grand? Thats what they made on mine 40 grand +.

See on a van of yours value people may use motorhome depot for finance warranties etc ..on a 15k van it's unlikely.

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[Northernraider]

You keep saying the batteries and solar couldn't really cope with the fridge in the Euromobile.

Do it right first time you won't have to do it again.

This van is going to use a lot more power and you are going to be using it full time.
You also said you are planning to spend more time in one place rather than moving on every couple of days.

Yeah but more time in one place in the sun .

 

[alex n]

Browsing and this came up, any good?

 

[Northernraider]

Browsing and this came up, any good?



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Possibly depending on price and location

 

[Stonemags76]

I know nothing, but I think you should take the electric stuff out of Moby & fit a compressor fridge in Doc. I’m not sure if the extra off grid is adding anything to Moby price wise? Most folk don’t appreciate it until they’ve had a van for some time, & maybe Moby is an entry level Van?

 

[Lenny HB]

Yeah but more time in one place in the sun .

What yer doing spending weeks in Cornwall then?

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[Barriesimpson]

do understand the man thing, john never reads the manuals then get's annoyed when I say how something works or where something is.
I however would read the back of a corn flakes packet.

Am I the only man on this planet that always reads the manuals?

 

[Lenny HB]

Am I the only man on this planet that always reads the manuals?

Yes.

 

[alex n]

location

Hi Tam she is in Peterborough and said her husband has sourced the part it £16 and will come back with cost when her husband get’s home

 

[Cookieboy68]

Am I the only man on this planet that always reads the manuals?

Probably

 

[Barriesimpson]

This showed on my Facebook, don’t know if it would be of interest to you
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They only ship to the States.

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[tonyidle]

It’s bad news I’m afraid the fridge has met its demise and I will be making arrangements for its disposal… flowers can be sent to my address and I’ll let you know when the visit to the dump is taking place…

It’s obvious that the fridge has Been out before and some tinkering has occurred, Tam even thinks that the fridge has been swapped but I’m not so sure….

Below is my experience pasted because I believe the engineers opinion on the cause makes sense:

My Dometic 'Tech Tower' fridge has died. The van is 2012 with under 4000 miles under its belt. What is maybe worth posting is the sequence of events: I bought the van during February this year. The fridge was turned on when I arrived home and stayed on, on 230v, until we took it for a 3 week shakedown in early March. Upon our return from that trip the fridge was left on until we set of on our first major trip - a 7 week tour of Scotland and NE England. During week 3 the fridge died. It warmed up and couldn't be persuaded to cool down. At the time it was on 230v and the mains element was functioning. I switched it off overnight, back on the following morning and it cooled (froze) as it should.

All went well for the rest of the trip and for a further couple of weeks parked at home. Then it warmed up - by which I mean the freezer was warmer than ambient. Mains element checked - all good. So, off overnight (I learn fast), back on in the morning and it froze down as expected. This time it lasted 3 days before pretending it was a heater. My Warranty is insurance based, and portable, so I contacted my nearest Dometic approved service centre. Here I spoke to their engineer who listened carefully to my ramblings then asked me what I thought was wrong. I said it had to be the cooling unit itself. He agreed and has ordered one (a cool £800 installed - pleased about the Warranty) which will take at least a couple of weeks and when it arrives he'll contact me to do the business.

I've described this in detail because others might have the same issue especially as the most interesting part was the engineers opinion as to why this sort of failure occurs. He believes, based on close-up examination of the innards of a cooling unit, that Dometic use a poorer quality steel than in the past. Inclusions within the steel dissolve when the fridge is not in use because the chemical fluid mix (which includes water) separates and causes minor corrosion. The corrosion in itself isn't a problem but the particles of inclusion or corroded steel within the cooling circuit block a restriction that is part of the fluid circuit so the fridge stops working. Turning it off for an extended period clears the blockage as fluid drains back to the lowest point - until the fridge is turned on again when the cycle repeats. His suggestion for prevention? Don't leave the fridge out of use for any length of time.

 

[chaser]

Northernraider , I know no-one takes any notice of me on here, but this bloke has sold two vans for us at more than we wanted, one at twenty thou and one at over thirty.
Wouldn't hurt to give him a ring, very straight bloke, you tell him what you want and he will tell you if he can sell it.
Please note this is NOT motorhome depot.

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[Flairy]

Chaser I listen to what you say my dad was on the farm all his life ,he knew what he was talking about

 

[Mikey RV]

Have you thought about the Alde heating. Yes it runs on gas or 240v or both at the same time, but on gas all the time you will go through a lot of gas with heating on and hot water. Another good reason to get the genny sorted so you have 240v.

 

[Northernraider]

What yer doing spending weeks in Cornwall then?

I'm here because I was changing vans lol.


But joking aside I know people often view it differently from me. You buy new vans and keep them for 5 years plus. I don't have that track record so at the minute I'm wary because until I've used the van more and got the mechanicals etc sorted and know how it all goes I'm reluctant to invest too much in it till then as often someone else gets the benefit.

I'm improving the van and I will continue to do that during my ownership. Like I've done with previous vans.

If I fit a good b2b on this , decent battery and 400ah of solar I can't see how I'd be using that much power .

But if I fit a compressor fridge then I might do .

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[Lenny HB]

Basically what I was telling yer.
The Lithium batteries are the biggest expense and if you don't get on with the van you can take them with you.

 

[Scotch mist]

Chaser , I listen to what you say ,LIKE ME you don’t mince your words
Unfortunately the masses ain’t quit ready for the truth

 

[Northernraider]

Basically what I was telling yer.
The Lithium batteries are the biggest expense and if you don't get on with the van you can take them with you.

I found it was all the wiring, and other stuff that worked out the most expensive.

Doing mobys electrics cost around £2k in total. And if I removed the bits I can remove, battery, solar charger, mains charger , b2b and inverter .

What they worth second hand ? ...maybe £4-500 quid tops. And none of it is any use for this van really

 

[Bognor Saint]

Am I the only man on this planet that always reads the manuals?

No

 

[Dutch 68]

I found it was all the wiring, and other stuff that worked out the most expensive.

Doing mobys electrics cost around £2k in total. And if I removed the bits I can remove, battery, solar charger, mains charger , b2b and inverter .

What they worth second hand ? ...maybe £4-500 quid tops. And none of it is any use for this van really

I know moby hasn’t had much serious interest ( except from me ) but if you start to strip it I think the sale will be even harder, and you will end up loosing more, leaving the van standing around till next year will not do it any good, so many risks, vermin, theft, damage,
Give it some more time or otherwise maybe have a trusted person who looks after it and can sell it for you whilst you are away.? Good luck.

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