The resurrection of Doc, bringing a 20 year old neismann Bischoff Flair back to life after 12 years off road.

[Flairy]

Tam you wondered what the original charger /wiring was like my charger was replaced but otherwise original

 

[funflair]

Mine had 2 of the standard chargers and neither was putting much out so I junked them and bought new. Would I do the same again? no because I hardly use it because the solar almost always takes care of it. If I knew then what I know now I would just get a cheap battery charger and hook it up for now.

btw, the panel battery isnt easy to change, if original its a solder in job and a bit of a modification. Ive got a threadon it somewhere but can't find it. Grasmere9 I suggest you have a look too.

This one Jon,

Northernraider Grasmere9

Old CBE panels preventive maintenance

On a previous thread John Russell detailed the problem he had when the battery on his CBE panel leaked killing the 12v power and damaging the PCB, this has prompted me to take a look at mine and I recommend everyone with an older panel has a look at theirs. Ifyou catch it before it does any...

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

 

[Shrimp]

Those big ‘planks’ of different colour around the Heiki & Aircon-if you have to (if the ceiling material wont clean up) re-use them or similar try to get same coloured material, as the ceiling, to cover them.
Hopefully the ceilings will survive.

 

[jongood]

My front seats don't swivel unfortunately.

They should jack up and swivel.

 

[jongood]

The roof will come up lovely . I'm going to finish washing it tomorrow under all skylights etc ...then I'll reseal around all those before I polish and wax the roof. I suspect that big aircon unit doesn't work as I can't get any life out it but will have to buy a skylight to replace it with .

It will reduce my height a fair bit too.

And then fit my solar on there across the back end .

I wouldnt be too hasty with the A/c Tam. If its all dead its probably a fuse/connection whatever. Might be worth banking for another day.

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[The Coops]

I wouldnt be too hasty with the A/c Tam. If its all dead its probably a fuse/connection whatever. Might be worth banking for another day.

Or just a clean up of connections and filters and a re charge

 

[Northernraider]

We put the microwave in the cupboard above the fridge and the TV at the front but we had a drop down bed so the TV was fixed under that.

Yes mine has a microwave built in under the hob .

 

[Northernraider]

I wouldnt be too hasty with the A/c Tam. If its all dead its probably a fuse/connection whatever. Might be worth banking for another day.

Yes I have to investigate it further .. I have found a mains cable under the wardrobe that's been cut and disconnected and I'm wondering if that was for the aircon therfore indicating a problem with it. However I suspect having not been used in 12 years its most likely junk . But you never know

 

[Flairy]

I think the air con has been replaced with a later model, mine would take up the space of the black frame yours looks modern.

 

[jongood]

There has been about 10 pages since then Jon it's a fast moving thread this one, but yes you are correct except the manual for CBE says that message comes up after you have put in the SOS fuse, Tam has also identified that he needs the little battery changing on the back of the CBE panel.

He also has the proper manual from N+B but not read it yet

I was at a microcar rally with really poor 4g Martin. Luckily plenty of other stuff to see.

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[jongood]

Yes I have to investigate it further .. I have found a mains cable under the wardrobe that's been cut and disconnected and I'm wondering if that was for the aircon therfore indicating a problem with it. However I suspect having not been used in 12 years its most likely junk . But you never know

Yes the seals could have suffered but who knows?

 

[funflair]

Yes I have to investigate it further .. I have found a mains cable under the wardrobe that's been cut and disconnected and I'm wondering if that was for the aircon therfore indicating a problem with it. However I suspect having not been used in 12 years its most likely junk . But you never know

Or has it had an inverter but been taken out

 

[Northernraider]

Well I didn't have any episodes with the control panel last night , it stayed on and nothing untoward happened , so maybe that battery was causing a poor connection or something. Who knows. Will see how it goes. I have ordered a new battery for it anyway just in case.


So jobs for today ,

This morning I'm going to try and get this big heki skylight to open by attaching my drill to the emergency crank handle . Once I get them all open I'm going back on the roof to clean under them all and check the seals . I'm going to run a bead of new sealant round them all anyway as a precaution. Few other jobs to tidy up on the roof. Need to cut the bolts that held the sat dish to the aluminium plate on roof . I'm going to leave that plate up there as it's glued and screwed to roof . I'll clean it ,sand it ,paint it and seal around it. Eventually it will be covered by a solar panel. Need to clean the front body seam and probably re tape that too as the tape is deteriorated slightly.


This afternoon we will try refitting the fridge and fingers crossed it works. If not then I'll have to see what options I have for repair or replacement.

If the weather isn't kind then I've a few jobs to do inside instead , ie remove old TV wiring bar the 12v feed cable as I'll reuse that for additional led lighting I want to fit around the cab area under cabinets. No lighting round there currently.

 

[Flairy]

Your going to be busy enjoy your day every step makes a difference

 

[Northernraider]

Or has it had an inverter but been taken out

I'm not sure . The wardrobe area and under it was a bit of a nightmare with cables as the previous owner had it full of satellite TV boxes and small inverters etc to power it then remote control boxes etc with all the wires running from there to front of van where TV was. I've been tracing and removing those cables over the last couple of days.

I hate previous owners modifications usually as they're often untidy and unless you know exactly what they are/do it can just cause confusion.

Luckily the double floor does help to be able to trace cables so I'm hoping to trace this cable back to its routes in both directions. The aircon doesn't seem to have any life whatsoever and not sure where the cable runs from the actual unit yet. I'm sure I saw a book for it among the big pile of manuals so that might shed some light on it

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[1967bowesj]

Or has it had an inverter but been taken out

Not sure if that clear swutch under the charger is a change over fir when the genny is fired up to pass the 240v through the comsumer unit, same principal as the inverter switch like JockandRita had thought it was

 

[Northernraider]

Not sure if that clear swutch under the charger is a change over fir when the genny is fired up to pass the 240v through the comsumer unit, same principal as the inverter switch like JockandRita had thought it was

That's probably a good shout

 

[scotzsue]

Another busy day, for Northernraider and Just smiffy
Nice big TV Tam but up that high would give me a crick in the neck.

 

[Suenliam]

Typed this last night when thread was on page 4 then I “lost” it. What a difference 12 hours make but the sentiment is still the same -
There’s always something with a van - OK you have a lot of somethings but remember what Moby was like when you first got him/her. Moby ended up a fine home for you after you and your friends worked your magic.
We had an identical fridge in our 2005 Adria. Superb fridge only issue was the sliding door lock. We eventually gave up replacing it and resorted to blue tac
Sue

 

[jongood]

Ok, different model but our genny switch looks like this

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[Northernraider]

Pissin it doon here today so the roof work is off. Been tidying and removing the rest of the wiring for the old TV and satellite. So my wardrobe is now tidy again . I've kept the original 12v supply that was running to the front tv .. that will be used to power the new led lights I'm putting at the front. The satellite power cables I will feed in to the cabinet above the fridge and fit a couple of 12v cigarette sockets and usb points in there to power my TV and media player.

This is the 2 x 240v cables that are going no where in the cavity under the wardrobe ... I originally thought it was one cable that had been cut but its not uts 2 cables of different diameters . Not found where they go yet but doing no harm as they are so ill come back to them later .

 

[Flairy]

That’s looking better

 

[berni109]

Every day's an adventure discovering all sorts of interesting things.

 

[Figaro]

Yes the seals could have suffered but who knows?

Happy to be corrected but I don't think there are seals on hab air con that need to be lubed as in car air con.

 

[corconx]

Pity I'm not still with you Tam. I have solutions to hide ceiling damage that would look original. I'll talk to you about it if needed.
One important lesson for you Tam......read the manuals! They tell you stuff you don't know. Keep going pal

I was just going to post Tam you need Maceellan back he’ll sort that. Fancy a trip to Cornwall soon. Save him wondering what to do.

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[gus-lopez]

I have ordered a new battery for it anyway just in case.

& get it changed as that oozing is coming from inside & one day it will just not work

 

[jongood]

& get it changed as that oozing is coming from inside & one day it will just not work

John Russell's rotted the pcb around it so he needed to repair that as well.

 

[jongood]

Happy to be corrected but I don't think there are seals on hab air con that need to be lubed as in car air con.

One if mine was popping fuses when the compressor kicked in, and it turned out to be a capacitor, its been fine ever since. One thing is the compressor will only kick in above 18c ( I think). its in the book Northernraider

 

[Captain Yoghurtpot]

I am watching this thread in awe of what is going off on this project and the extensive help that is being supplied to keep things moving.
This is an absolutely must read of what can be done with a motorhome if you can put your mind to it.
AND.....I had no idea about the build quality of these N and B vans.
So much so, I am salivating at the thought of what I might get upto if I had enough time for a project over the winter, even though we have just downsized to a Camper pop top roof van.
Sincere good luck Northernraider and Just smiffy for your continuing efforts.
Will be a joy to behold once all done.

 

[Kingalbi]

Tam have you asked Gary if he would like to go to Marroc

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