Tam &Toby do Europe ...Take two

[Val 3 dogs]

I seem to remember something similar last year Tam but mates are worth a bit of agro.

 

[Val 3 dogs]

One of the rewards of growing older can be developing more tolerance -I feel you need more practice Tam

 

[Janine]

Beware of those pesky monkeys - they are horrible! If they think you have any food secreted about your person or in a rucksack, they will find it and wont be gentle with you!

 

[Lenny HB]

Beware of those pesky monkeys - they are horrible! If they think you have any food secreted about your person or in a rucksack, they will find it and wont be gentle with you!

Also put glasses/sunglasses well out of the way.

 

[Scotch mist]

Yeh , chain everything down and I mean EVERYTHING , those monkeys are professional thieves
If I remember right I lost my skip hat , keep your distance !!!
I watched a male monkey playing with its self as the crowds got closer to watch thinking it was hilarious
Once he had a sizeable audience He pissed all over them & run away , couldn’t help but think he’s done that before lol

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[Podney]

Mind your wallet,it’s not just the monkeys after it!

 

[dotsontour]

Tam , do you think it’s safe to take the dogs up there . Those monkeys might see them as a threat .
Just saying .

 

[Northernraider]

Well that was interesting but a little scary , walked up the rock of gibraltar ...when buying the tickets the guy simply said be careful with the dogs but 80% of the time It's ok...Well it's ok when only 1 or 2 monkeys they tend to stay away but we ended up attacked by around 10 apes and 7 smaller monkeys surrounding us screaming and baring teeth , jade got swiped twice by one I ended up having to carry both dogs and try and fend of the apes with a stick. The monkeys are lovely the smaller ones are very cute and they are reasonably friendly with humans .but if you ever visit and have dogs i'd suggest you don't take them. The guys in the booths obviously don't want to turn paying customers away but I'd rather they just said don't take dogs as they will get attacked. Dogs were petrified and didn't even bark like they normally would...I think they could sense just how dangerous the apes are.
Not something I'd do again with them as I was scared shitless, the guys working there made no attempt to help and other people just watch laughing and videoing .
Jack the big woose ran away so I'm left crouched down trying to cover two dogs while a pack of monkeys are screaming and growling

 

[monzer]

I see you've got a few stragglers again tam. I'm getting a few likes from way back in January

 

[Trixie]

Tam dotsontour might be along to say “I did warn you”

At least your mate got to see the tourist attraction.

Think you might be ready for a beer or wine, (before you throttle the mate).

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[Northernraider]

Here's the pics I managed to get

 

[Northernraider]

Tam dotsontour might be along to say “I did warn you”

At least your mate got to see the tourist attraction.

Think you might be ready for a beer or wine, (before you throttle the mate).

No point warning me once we've done it lol.
I didn't read any of those posts until I logged on just now to post the pics etc
I headed up there around 11.30 and just back at tobynow

 

[Val 3 dogs]

I suppose it's a "must see" but not for me. Like any wild animal that lives in close contact with humans and constantly fed tidbits, they lose all respect (read fear), know no boundaries and if not fed become very demanding and angry.
I would also imagine the older animals (parents) would be very protective of the young, and very aggressive toward anything they saw as predators (dogs).One only need watch a 'wildlife 'documentary' to witness this behaviour.
Much as I hate to say "I told you so", I did endeavour to warn you last year but was poo pooed by others on here.
One only has to be aware of the number of serious /fatal accidents caused by donestic/farm animals to be aware of the potential dangers.
Anyway you've been there, done that, im

 

[Val 3 dogs]

I'm glad you got the dogs away safely.

 

[Val 3 dogs]

As a point of interest 'monkey's bare their teeth and chatter them as a sign of submission like a "smiling " dog. You just need to know the difference between 'smiling ' and 'snarling '.and there's often not a lot of time to decide.

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[Northernraider]

As a point of interest 'monkey's bare their teeth and chatter them as a sign of submission like a "smiling " dog. You just need to know the difference between 'smiling ' and 'snarling '.and there's often not a lot of time to decide.

Aye these weren't smiling at that point.
The single one on the wall I was having a laugh with because it was copying me making faces etc ...but when they surrounded us they were getting really aggressive ...one swiped jades back legs from her I had to crouch down an pull them in under me and bang the stick on the ground around me.


I'd like to go see them again but not with the dogs

 

[Rob and Val]

Glad to hear that no blood was shed but it must have been really scary.

 

[tacr2man]

Monkeys /chimps etc dont like being sprayed with water ! Found that out when going thru Woburn safari park in my Landy with some visitors many years ago . A couple jumped on bonnet and went to pull off the wipers , I had off road power washers fitted and hit the button , lot of shrieking as they jumped off

 

[Northernraider]

Anyone ever worked or lived in Gibraltar?

Was speaking to a Scottish woman and a woman from Cumbria working in Morrison's and thought actually I could move there, get the hot weather but still English speaking etc.

I need to look in to that possibility.


P.s diesel was even cheaper...94 p a litre

 

[monzer]

If you find yourself at the casino say hello to Edi the croupier for me, blonde lassie from the Czech Republic. And stick a fiver on 22

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[tacr2man]

Northernraider https://www.spainmadesimple.com/work-jobs/jobs-gibraltar/

 

[gus-lopez]

Anyone ever worked or lived in Gibraltar?

sciac2001 lives there if I am not mistaken

 

[Northernraider]

So left gibraltar yesterday around 5ish and drove to a free services at castellar de la frontera.....and then Stopped overnight by a lovely castle/fortified town Castillo fortaleza about 20 miles north of gibraltar on the road towards ronda ....were supposed to be going there today ....BUT Jack and I had a falling out last night that was serious enough for him to book a flight back to Belfast tonight from Malaga so I'll just be driving him back to the airport today.
Not going in to details on that but sadly I think it's the end of our friendship.
So I'll likely be back at torremolinos overnight tonight.

Here's the pics from the castle last night.

 

[scousebird]

Sorry to hear about your bust up with Jack, Tam. Can you not make it up before he goes rather than lose a mate?

 

[busby]

Anyone ever worked or lived in Gibraltar?

Was speaking to a Scottish woman and a woman from Cumbria working in Morrison's and thought actually I could move there, get the hot weather but still English speaking etc.

I need to look in to that possibility.


P.s diesel was even cheaper...94 p a litre

Friend of mine works there for William Hill.
On a great salary but can't afford to live on the rock.He cycles in everyday from the mainland.BUSBY.

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[Val 3 dogs]

Sorry to hear you've rowed with your mate Tam, real friends aren't to make,try not to part in anger.

 

[Val 3 dogs]

Last night's spot looks great , what a lovely old castle and pretty village.

 

[tacr2man]

I took a mate with me on a two week trip down to Italy , to visit relations (to fix a brit car owned by Americans stationed in Italy) and then on to catch up with parents further down . He got involved in a fight in a Osteria (first time I had been served wine in a bowl ? ) involving yank servicemen and Italians . Then he spent quite a bit on a couple of Italian "Ladies"
I fixed the car , and went onto Rimini , to rendevous with parents and Uncle & Aunt in their moho , he lost his swimwear and went in in his pants ! Then got into argument with my uncle . Asked to borrow some money from me as he had run out . I drove him back to Austria , and paid for his ticket back to Calais . Lesson learned , you dont really know someone till you have to travel together His wife rang me about a week after I got home asking where we were, as he still hadnt got back . When I caught up with him at work about 10 days after my return . He had got sidetracked by a woman he met in Calais !!

 

[Trixie]

Perhaps he thought you were a free holiday and would be like living in an apartment.

How wrong could he be especially when you now have the responsibility of two dogs.

Maybe you could say sorry we argued but don’t let us lose touch. At least you could still chat to him if you met him in the street.

If he wants to visit again let him stay in a hotel and you can visit him maybe for an evening.

 

[Langtoftlad]

Sorry to hear that - hope it's just the stress of living in a confined space that blew up & that you can resolve it.

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