Tam, Jade and Franky's European Adventure

[irnbru]

Gawd there's a right miserable couple near me on this aire .

Which aire are you on? I’m guessing your in Portugal now.

 

[Onemanandhisdog]

She does forget that not everyone wants her bouncing on them ....yes I think they don't know what they are missing but I am tired of her jumping on everyone. ..problem is some people encourage her so it makes it very difficult to stop her from doing it

She expects everyone to make a fuss of her

Be grateful she's the size she is, my 6 year old Ridgeback who weighs nearly 50 kilos still thinks it a good idea at times , and you never know quite when it's going to be!

 

[Northernraider]

Which aire are you on? I’m guessing your in Portugal now.

It's the gypsy market one in quartiera

 

[Just smiffy]

It's the gypsy market one in quartieraView attachment 242733

The last time I went past that place there were English vans crashing into each other (literally) for a space after the market finished .....

If your having your clutch done on Wednesday you’ll be out of it or you’ll have to get a space in the smaller car park next door...

 

[Northernraider]

The last time I went past that place there were English vans crashing into each other (literally) for a space after the market finished .....

If your having your clutch done on Wednesday you’ll be out of it or you’ll have to get a space in the smaller car park next door...

Ha ha it's pretty quiet just now ...only about 10 vans there.

But I've just moved the van in to the smaller free carpark next door as the guy said you had to move before night as the market guys arrive very very early morning.

So I'm parked fairly close to the gate where hopefully I can make a quick exit in the morning without being blocked in.

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[GROGGY64]

Ha ha it's pretty quiet just now ...only about 10 vans there.

But I've just moved the van in to the smaller free carpark next door as the guy said you had to move before night as the market guys arrive very very early morning.

So I'm parked fairly close to the gate where hopefully I can make a quick exit in the morning without being blocked in.

Hi Tam have you found a garage to fix your clutch? If so I must have missed that post.

 

[Northernraider]

Hi Tam have you found a garage to fix your clutch? If so I must have missed that post.

Yes ...i had started a thread looking for reccomendations so to keep it off this one so I've really only updated that thread.

But yes it's getting fixed Tomorrow hopefully

 

[Northernraider]

Just been a cycle down from the aire to the beach and back through the pine woods .....how lovely and the smell from the pines is gorgeous.

Spotted a plot of land for sale too .....wonder how much it is ha ha.

It's nice here and a bit cooler than Spain was at the minute ...around 26° today nice breeze.

Internet signals pants so struggling to upload pics

 

[Northernraider]

 

[busby]

Yes if it's just the clutch it will be just under €800

But if the flywheel needs changed too which we won't know till it's stripped out then another €600

Needless to say I'm hoping the flywheel is ok

Dual mass flywheel,,,ask them if they can convert to fixed flywheel,,,

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[Drum Major]

Love the pic making me really jealous our first visit to Portugal last year really enjoyed it people really nice enjoy

 

[Northernraider]

Dual mass flywheel,,,ask them if they can convert to fixed flywheel,,,

Can that be done?

Id imagine if it was cheap and easy that no one woukd buy the dual mass one


It's ridiculously priced at 600 euro

 

[Northernraider]

Love the pic making me really jealous our first visit to Portugal last year really enjoyed it people really nice enjoy

I've not spoke to a whole lot of folk here yet ....mostly the guys at the garage who were English ....the guys at the aire who I'm not sure where they are from but I didn't think Portuguese and the girl with the legs in the launderette who was definately Portuguese and she was rather lovely
But when she showed me how to work the payment machine she spoke to me like I was her grandad with dementia so I didn't pursue that

Haven't seen a lot of it either except that wee run out on the bike today ....but from what I've seen it looks lovely.

Once clutch is fixed I'm going to backtrack to faro etc for the week until I'm in camperserve next Friday

 

[Northernraider]

Cheap villa next door to the aire needs a little bit of work but nothing serious.


Anyone know the rules on parking a motorhome on land in Portugal lol

@ianthebuilder how much you reckon to sort this? Free onsite parking and a lovely beach nearby

 

[irnbru]

Anyone know the rules on parking a motorhome on land in Portugal lol

Ask @JJ

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[tacr2man]

Can that be done?

Id imagine if it was cheap and easy that no one woukd buy the dual mass one


It's ridiculously priced at 600 euro

It can be done if you find suitable flywheel, I have done it with a Subaru , but the reason for the DMF on a lot of diesels is to try and protect the gearboxes from resonant torque pulses .

 

[Riverbankannie]

Plots of land where you are currently seem to start at €100,000 and go up with a lot more noughts on end!
https://www.zoopla.co.uk/overseas/land/portugal/algarve/central-algarve/loule/vilamoura/

 

[Teuchter]

Yes if it's just the clutch it will be just under €800

But if the flywheel needs changed too which we won't know till it's stripped out then another €600

Needless to say I'm hoping the flywheel is ok

Clutches today must be very different to the 70's & 80's!

I those days I owned a succession of cars (old bangers really) and changing a clutch was an afternoons DIY and cost a few £!!

Normally drop the gearbox or lift the engine and change the driven plate only (as well as the clutch release bearing) - never once had to change the flywheel - sure seen some with a little scoring or a tad "blued" by heat but a new driven plate with "plenty of meat on it" always worked for me

 

[Northernraider]

Clutches today must be very different to the 70's & 80's!

I those days I owned a succession of cars (old bangers really) and changing a clutch was an afternoons DIY and cost a few £!!

Normally drop the gearbox or lift the engine and change the driven plate only (as well as the clutch release bearing) - never once had to change the flywheel - sure seen some with a little scoring or a tad "blued" by heat but a new driven plate with "plenty of meat on it" always worked for me

Yes I'm afraid they have even changed dramatically since I was doing my apprenticeship. Because I never stayed in the trade a lot of things passed me by

I still do a lot of stuff my self but things got a whole lot more complicated the last 20 years

 

[tonyidle]

Clutches today must be very different to the 70's & 80's!

I those days I owned a succession of cars (old bangers really) and changing a clutch was an afternoons DIY and cost a few £!!

Normally drop the gearbox or lift the engine and change the driven plate only (as well as the clutch release bearing) - never once had to change the flywheel - sure seen some with a little scoring or a tad "blued" by heat but a new driven plate with "plenty of meat on it" always worked for me

A dual-mass flywheel is two halves. The first is attached to the crankshaft and the second is connected to the first by damping springs. The clutch is attached to part 2. Because one half can move separately from the other, controlled by the damping springs, a bearing is involved. The two halves are closely connected and look like one slightly fat flywheel. The bearing wears and the damping springs can weaken or collapse. It is unfortunately good practice to change them with the clutch.

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[busby]

Clutches today must be very different to the 70's & 80's!

I those days I owned a succession of cars (old bangers really) and changing a clutch was an afternoons DIY and cost a few £!!

Normally drop the gearbox or lift the engine and change the driven plate only (as well as the clutch release bearing) - never once had to change the flywheel - sure seen some with a little scoring or a tad "blued" by heat but a new driven plate with "plenty of meat on it" always worked for me

Dual mass flywheels are nothing like the solid cast iron ones of 80s and 90s,,,Complex bit of useless unnecessary kit,,,BUSBY,

 

[Shrimp]

Good luck today with the clutch Tam.

 

[Northernraider]

Awwww Oh Please! I forgot about the bloody time difference in Portugal and I haven't changed the time on my phone or dash clock or anything.

So there's me up showered had breakfast took jade a walk and got all sorted ready to take the van round to the garage for just after 8.30.

Sets the sat nav to find my way back there and the bloody clock on sat nav says 7.19 lol


The 3 French vans accross from me must have thought I was a right wally going to bed just after 11 last night ha ha

I thought my phone changed the time automatically but I obviously haven't set it for that

 

[Val 3 dogs]

Been there, done that. Good luck today Tam.

 

[Onemanandhisdog]

The only reason they recommend changing the dual mass flywheel at the same time is in case it fails shortly after and all the dismantling (read labour costs) need doing again.

I'm not sure if anyone can tell by sight, or officially check the state of the flywheel, it's a precaution.

My old VW transporter was chugging along quite happily with 225,000 on the clock, drove 5 miles one day, stopped for a couple of hours then fired it up again and sounded like a bag of old spanners! Drove it the 5 miles home, best part of £700 later she was as good as new again.

Couple of months later and old girl drove straight in the back of it at about 30mph (while I was standing next to it) and wrote it off!!!

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[intokenny]

Good luck for today Tam.

 

[Northernraider]

The only reason they recommend changing the dual mass flywheel at the same time is in case it fails shortly after and all the dismantling (read labour costs) need doing again.

I'm not sure if anyone can tell by sight, or officially check the state of the flywheel, it's a precaution.

My old VW transporter was chugging along quite happily with 225,000 on the clock, drove 5 miles one day, stopped for a couple of hours then fired it up again and sounded like a bag of old spanners! Drove it the 5 miles home, best part of £700 later she was as good as new again.

Couple of months later and old girl drove straight in the back of it at about 30mph (while I was standing next to it) and wrote it off!!!

Yeah he seemed to think if the van was juddering etc when pulling away that was an indication but it doesn't do that.

He said he will see how it looks when it's stripped down.

I could do without that extra expense but if it needs doing then it will be done but if I can avoid it I will

Vans always been a very smooth drive and I've taken it up some serious hills and places most folk won't take a van this size
Probably what's helped to wear out the clutch.
Certainly an expensive few weeks

 

[Teuchter]

OK all you fellow "oldies" are dual mass fly wheels & associated clutches now fitted to all modern cars/vans/trucks?

Or are there some still built with the "old fashioned" pressure plate, driven plate,clutch release bearing and solid flywheel?

 

[tonyidle]

Dual mass flywheels are nothing like the solid cast iron ones of 80s and 90s,,,Complex bit of useless unnecessary kit,,,BUSBY,

They add considerably to the smoothness of the drive train and, as was stated in an earlier post, reduce cyclic and resonant loads on the gearbox. The torque generated by modern Diesel engines is higher by a considerable margin than earlier versions.

 

[tonyidle]

OK all you fellow "oldies" are dual mass fly wheels & associated clutches now fitted to all modern cars/vans/trucks?

Or are there some still built with the "old fashioned" pressure plate, driven plate,clutch release bearing and solid flywheel?

The pressure plate, driven plate and release bearing aren't any different in design whichever type of flywheel is used.

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