Red warning triangle in Spain

[Kups]

Update. Motorhome Matt has stock of these units on his That Leisure Shop website.

He's still trying to get to the bottom of whether the V16 has to have direct internet link or whether you can use it alongside an app called Alert Cop. The app is free. He's downloaded it but not used it yet.

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The LED V16 emergency beacon is approved and authorised by the DGT for signalling emergencies when driving on the road and conforms to road safety regulations.

www.thatleisureshop.com

 

[nicholsong]

Fof those with non-ferrous body MHs I have this idea fir activating the geo-locator feature of the V16.

Keep a small scrap piece of ferrous plate in the same box to on the sensor of the kit, this will activate the locator.

One still has the problem of placing/attaching it to thr MH high enough to be sffective. In my case having a flat roof and a ladder I would climb halfway up and stretch out to place it on the rear of the roof. Are they so light that wind could blow them off? If so some doble-sided tape may be needed on the base,

Without a ladder maybe tape it to the awning winder and tape that to the MH body at high enough level so the V16 is above rof level.

 

[cyberyacht]

I think a tin of potatoes (baked beans too small?) installed via a roof light is the best option. Apart from "whoosh bangs", how many motorhomes have ferrous roofs? Virtually none, I'd warrant. Anyway, apart from the "ET option" what does it do that hazards don't?

 

[Barriesimpson]

Anyway, apart from the "ET option" what does it do that hazards don't?

Comply to the Spanish law.

 

[SMB]

Update. Motorhome Matt has stock of these units on his That Leisure Shop website.

He's still trying to get to the bottom of whether the V16 has to have direct internet link or whether you can use it alongside an app called Alert Cop. The app is free. He's downloaded it but not used it yet.

LED V16 Emergency Beacon - Free Shipping Over £150

The LED V16 emergency beacon is approved and authorised by the DGT for signalling emergencies when driving on the road and conforms to road safety regulations.

www.thatleisureshop.com

Alert cops is a citizen securty system provided by law enforcement to assist citizens of Spain and not connected with the V16 system. The beacon I have has a sim card included and it runs on the DGT 3.0 system which is their own network. It is certified to work until 2038, I believe all you do is activate the beacon and they do the rest so no app is required. This is the same beacon that PaulW2 created a link to on his post on page two.

This is a link to a website which explains it in more detail:

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Descubre la Plataforma de Vehículo Conectado de la Dirección General de Tráfico (DGT 3.0). Información en tiempo real sobre el tráfico, seguridad vial y más.

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[gus-lopez]

I might make this year my last one down to Spain and stop at Perpignan and Hendaye thereafter.

Lorca is not that bad.

I have an ordinary flashing beacon but will put off getting a networking one as long as possible in case they change their minds.

Very unlikely as it has been coming in for at least 4 years

OK, I admit I am baffled by this.

We are heading to Spain, this year, in April and May.

I assume I need a flashing beacon.

Can anyone who fully understands the requirement tell me…..

1 Where can I get a “basic” beacon, ie no geolocator?

2. Is such a beacon OK for this year, 2025 for a motorhome.

3. Will we require the geolocator version for a trip this year? (After this trip we have no intention of returning to Spain with the motorhome so the €50+ is an expense I will avoid if possible).

4. If delivery times for the geolocator versions are several months what do we do for this year?


Please help, my head hurts !

& yes you do need a basic one for this year

No you don’t need a flashing beacon for your trip this year.

Required for motorhomes since 2023. so yes you do

It looks to me like any bike rack should not protrude beyond 10% of the length of the original chassis, so most do not comply including mine which extends about 1m

15% as it is an 'indivisble'load I.e one fixed length vehicle . Even when I had a bike rack on the last coach built that was homologated & on the ficha tecnica here in spain it still needed a V20 sign- One way to overcome the above is to use a marker board with number plate.
Also, Portugese regulations state that a bike rack when not in use, cannot protrude more than 45cms. Mine ,even when folded up stuck out 50cm

 

[treblid]

One way to overcome the above is to use a marker board with number plate.

Do you mean rear lights with a number plate as most tow bar mounted cycle carriers have?

 

[Kups]

Do you mean rear lights with a number plate as most tow bar mounted cycle carriers have?

No it's one of these that goes on the bike cover.

https://amzn.eu/d/0JdAS6j

 

[royandsharont]

Lorca is not that bad.

Very unlikely as it has been coming in for at least 4 years

& yes you do need a basic one for this year

Required for motorhomes since 2023. so yes you do

15% as it is an 'indivisble'load I.e one fixed length vehicle . Even when I had a bike rack on the last coach built that was homologated & on the ficha tecnica here in spain it still needed a V20 sign- One way to overcome the above is to use a marker board with number plate.
Also, Portugese regulations state that a bike rack when not in use, cannot protrude more than 45cms. Mine ,even when folded up stuck out 50cm

Hi gus-lopez. Are you saying I can have a bike rack protruding up to 15% of my total chassis length, so in my 6.36m PVC I can extend up to max of 0.954m AND as usual I display the marker board too which fits in my cover . Over that protrusion I cannot have it at all. Cheers for clarifying

PS just checked mine, it measures 1000 mm wide by 720mm deep so would be within the 15%, but not had it been10%

 

[royandsharont]

Whilst reading the translated instructions on the use of Motorhomes in Spain, as provided above in this thread, it was interesting to note the section on carrying a spare wheel. It clearly states that the wheel must be a complete one, so I guess just a tyre is not enough. I take the alternative is such as inflatable gunge etc. but what happens then to a tyre damages buying the roadside repair you may ask when you look at how it is worded.

Here is the section pasted from the document:

5.- EQUIPMENT


A complete spare wheel or a temporary wheel, with the necessary tools for changing wheels, or an alternative system to changing wheels that offers sufficient guarantees for the mobility of the vehicle. In these cases, the vehicle must be driven in compliance with the limitations of each alternative.

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[Clive Mott]

So if you break down in a camper in Spain how the hell do you put a warning beacon on top when top can be 3M up high?

 

[jumar]

As others have said, it a good idea to work out what you need for your specific camper... I can put my beacon through a Rooflight, perhaps you could do the same....
The use of these beacons makes your vehicle more noticeable and not only that, makes your breakdown procedure safer due to not having to venture off to find a suitable location to place a warning triangle ....

 

[Tude]

I just did a quick forum search on this, and nothing came up. I didn't want a lot of groans and yawns because it was old hat.

I have just been sent this. “Spain's transport ministry is bringing in a new law requiring all vehicles to be equipped with an orange flashing warning light - including drivers visiting from France or other European countries.

If you are visiting Spain by car, you will soon need to buy a new piece of equipment, thanks to a change in Spain's road safety laws.

From January 2026, drivers in Spain will replace the red warning triangle with an orange fashing light, known as a V16, that goes on the rooftop of the car in case of accident or breakdown. “

What shocked me was this … “In fact it is already required for camper vans, and has been since 2023. The new law covers all vehicles that are driven on Spanish roads, including those registered in another country. Rental vehicles hired in Spain should supply the lights once the law comes into force.”

I certainly didn't know that.

It also needs to have a SIM card so if you breakdown you can be pin pointed from January 2026

 

[Tonks]

I see Amazon lists one with geolocation for 48 quid. Delivery may be seven months though

Still, luckily 2026 is still eleven months away...

 

[DandJ]

So if you break down in a camper in Spain how the hell do you put a warning beacon on top when top can be 3M up high?

The suggestions made so far fly in the face of my own personal desire to get out of the 'danger zone'. Faffing about with popping it on a tin can or a baking tray and then opening a roof light...popping it on the roof...closing the vent then getting out....or my favourite... getting some ladders out to pop it on the roof....

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[Jacasino]

I think a tin of potatoes (baked beans too small?) installed via a roof light is the best option. Apart from "whoosh bangs", how many motorhomes have ferrous roofs? Virtually none, I'd warrant. Anyway, apart from the "ET option" what does it do that hazards don't?

I think it’s a good idea, certainly on motorways with gantries as it can warn in advance of a stranded vehicle, could do with it here on the so called smart motorways.
I was going to put off buying them until I reached Spain later this year, I’m not a big fan of Amazon but this thread sparked me into ordering a pair this morning, cost around £95, delivery between Jan 27 & Jan 29 According to Amazon.

 

[BrochMike]

The suggestions made so far fly in the face of my own personal desire to get out of the 'danger zone'. Faffing about with popping it on a tin can or a baking tray and then opening a roof light...popping it on the roof...closing the vent then getting out....or my favourite... getting some ladders out to pop it on the roof....

Agreed. In some circumstances you'd just want to get out.

I doubt you'd be prosecuted for not deploying in those cases...

... unless they find you weren't carrying one of these costly add-ons which just duplicate the functionality of existing hazard warning lights & SOS features of modern cars

 

[MisterB]

Update. Motorhome Matt has stock of these units on his That Leisure Shop website.

He's still trying to get to the bottom of whether the V16 has to have direct internet link or whether you can use it alongside an app called Alert Cop. The app is free. He's downloaded it but not used it yet.

LED V16 Emergency Beacon - Free Shipping Over £150

The LED V16 emergency beacon is approved and authorised by the DGT for signalling emergencies when driving on the road and conforms to road safety regulations.

www.thatleisureshop.com

Strangely they are pretty identical to the ones I got from AliExpress at a fraction of the cost

See post #39

 

[maison]

Our motorhome has a non ferrous roof and, with the exception of the overcab window, the roof vents are of the “pop-up” type. They don’t tilt like a Heki rooflight so no chance of passing the beacon through.

We have no rear ladder so how are we supposed to mount it on the roof?

If we mount it just behind the tilting cab window I doubt that it could be seen easily from behind. I am beginning to rue paying for the ferry and just visiting another country instead.

 

[jumar]

OMG.... I'll have a word with our local MP and explain that the introduction of these New Safety Features are causing too great a problem for our overseas visitors.. I'm sure there will be some sort of concession...
Just as well you guys have only 183 days of the year to worry about, how to put your light on top of your Motorhome....us Spanish residents have a whole year of such stress..

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[PaulW2]

Agreed. In some circumstances you'd just want to get out.

I doubt you'd be prosecuted for not deploying in those cases...

... unless they find you weren't carrying one of these costly add-ons which just duplicate the functionality of existing hazard warning lights & SOS features of modern cars

I would be nervous about that though.

The new lights are intended as a safety feature. Imagine if they are not deployed and an accident then occurs where you are charged with having caused the accident due to your non-compliance.

 

[SMB]

I'm sure I've read somewhere (possibly on N322 Spanish traffic cops facebook group) that if it's a problem to stick it on the roof of your motorhome then you should place it on the bonnet.

Edit: here is the link to the N332 Web page which states it should be placed at the highest point of the vehicle or, if this isn't possible, on the drivers door (passenger door of rhd cars I would suggest). No mention of the bonnet, no idea where I saw that!

 

[nicholsong]

I'm sure I've read somewhere (possibly on N322 Spanish traffic cops facebook group) that if it's a problem to stick it on the roof of your motorhome then you should place it on the bonnet.

Edit: here is the link to the N332 Web page which states it should be placed at the highest point of the vehicle or, if this isn't possible, on the drivers door (passenger door of rhd cars I would suggest). No mention of the bonnet, no idea where I saw that!

Maybe some Spanish-speaking MHFun member could ask on N322 where a MH driver should olace it if the roof cannot be reached, the 'bonnet is near vertical and there is no door other than hab door., which for RHD is on the right.

 

[DandJ]

I'm sure I've read somewhere (possibly on N322 Spanish traffic cops facebook group) that if it's a problem to stick it on the roof of your motorhome then you should place it on the bonnet.

Edit: here is the link to the N332 Web page which states it should be placed at the highest point of the vehicle or, if this isn't possible, on the drivers door (passenger door of rhd cars I would suggest). No mention of the bonnet, no idea where I saw that!

It gets dafter then....looking at the physical size of the beacon....attaching it to the drivers (or passengers for a UK vehicle) door on some motorhomes will render it invisible from behind....especially on any sort of right hand bend, due to the main body being several inches wider than the cab section.
The devices are very small (but no doubt very effective with bright LEDs).
They may solve it by simply creating one that the user switches on and perhaps an attached suction cup means it'll stick to the rear wall panel of a moho....

 

[treblid]

No it's one of these that goes on the bike cover.

https://amzn.eu/d/0JdAS6j

Ah, OK. I have one of those. The number plate is on the cycle carrier.
So are you saying that a bike carrier with number plate, lights and a marker sign on the bikes/cover, the 15% max extra length limit is not applicable?

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[Richard J]

From https://www.dgt.es/muevete-con-segu...iva-general/index.html?category=instrucciones
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Downloaded file attached (in english)

So it looks like there is no need to attach the beacon to the roof if you can't reach it; just as high as you can reach in a position of maximum visibility. Put the baking trays away!

 

[Peavy]

Maybe some Spanish-speaking MHFun member could ask on N322 where a MH driver should olace it if the roof cannot be reached, the 'bonnet is near vertical and there is no door other than hab door., which for RHD is on the right.

FlashMate is your mate

 

[Barriesimpson]

Whilst reading the translated instructions on the use of Motorhomes in Spain, as provided above in this thread, it was interesting to note the section on carrying a spare wheel. It clearly states that the wheel must be a complete one, so I guess just a tyre is not enough.

Correct, it must be a complete spare wheel and tyre.

Here is the section pasted from the document:

5.- EQUIPMENT
or an alternative system to changing wheels that offers sufficient guarantees for the mobility of the vehicle.

This translation is too open to interpretation. The original Spanish document is quite clear, the use of 'alternative solutions' is the gunge that you get when you buy the vehicle. It's a kit that includes a small 12v air compressor to be able to inflate the tyre once the gunge is added. The problem with these kits is if the blowout was catastrophic, there is no chance of fixing it. So what happens then? We'll have to wait and see.

 

[SMB]

Maybe some Spanish-speaking MHFun member could ask on N322 where a MH driver should olace it if the roof cannot be reached, the 'bonnet is near vertical and there is no door other than hab door., which for RHD is on the right.

I've complied with the law by shoving it in the glove compartment, I'll worry about where to put it if I ever need to use it .
In reality I always carry black tac (See here) so I'd probably just open a roof vent and stick it on there.

 

[Augusta08]

Bought a V16 in local Ferreta, it hooks onto the rear-facing camera lead.

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