Red warning triangle in Spain

[Barriesimpson]

I found one on Amazon but delivery isn’t until July! Also, it only has a magnetic attachment which is useless for my motorhome.

You've got till 2026, no rush.

 

[daimlermg]

Interesting I am now looking which and where to buy one

 

[StillGoing]

You've got till 2026, no rush.

If I were a betting man, I wouldn’t be surprised if there weren’t enough approved V16 beacons with the network connection available by 1 Jan, and the start date will be pushed back.

 

[Madcaravanner]

We're Heading to Spain in 30 days
We already have Dumb LED Flares so will be upgrading these once we get to La Vila Joiosa
our only problem is the only bit of Steel is the ladder protector so looking for a DGT approved one with geolocation that's tall enough to see OVER the motorhome as it is supposed to be able to be seen from all angles

 

[PaulW2]

Delivery next week

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[Brains]

How do you place a flashing beacon on 3 metre high MH? especially when it's aluminium? When broken down on a motorway, no hard shoulder and mad drivers passing as close as they possibly can ?

This is actually a serious question.
As these new triangles need a magnetic surface to activate, and most motorhomes do not have a magnetic surface at the rear.

My solution (not tried it yet), would be to get a baking tray out of the oven.
Using the rear skylight over the bed, put the baking tray on the roof.

Put the Triangle on top of the baking tray!

 

[Just smiffy]

Saw a few breakdowns of verifiable vehicles last month in Spain and not one of them had a flashing light… they did have triangles…

 

[DandJ]

I like the idea of a very visible beacon such as these....however, if I have to adopt the same technique as Mr Brains above...it flies in the face of all I know of breaking down on a dangerous road....i.e get out of the vehicle and somewhere safe as quickly (and safely) as possible.

 

[MisterB]

Are they any good if so can you send me the details pm

They seem ok and very cheap.. Though it doesn't stop them being additions to the ones that are 'approved' ...
They are smaller than I thought they would be so I'm glad I bought two but in reality the hazard warning lights are probably more noticeable (if they're still working of course)

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[Odd-no-more]

I've just had a quick Google and I can't find a geolocation lamp available here, has anyone found one?

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[Howard B]

This is actually a serious question.
As these new triangles need a magnetic surface to activate, and most motorhomes do not have a magnetic surface at the rear.

My solution (not tried it yet), would be to get a baking tray out of the oven.
Using the rear skylight over the bed, put the baking tray on the roof.

Put the Triangle on top of the baking tray!

Why not just find a small steel plate that you can leave attached. I'll have the same issue, but dont have a rear Heki so will have to find someway to get mine on top of the roof at the rear. Ill probably use something like this, fit a loop of wire through the holes and lift it on the rear using my Thule awing handle or buy a cheap telescopic pole.

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[pelican]

Have you seen any official link to that...I've seen it. few times in the last few days but haven't been able to find an official source.
Some of it makes sense...some doesn't. The way many online resources write it up....if you break down on a road and get out without a hi-viz vest on, you're breaking the law and can be fined. I was under the impression that it was on motorways / dual carriageways rather than just 'on a road'. If it is just on any road...it's bonkers....if I don't break down but simply stop and get out for a leg stretch...I don't need a hi-viz vest on....

Here's 'Murcia Today' take on it.

Rules for warning triangles, emergency lights and hi-vis vests in Spain

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The driver who may have hit you would be glad you were wearing hi viz

 

[DBK]

Are these going to be the next French breathalysers?

On a serious note the concept is excellent, with the emergency services being alerted immediately of a breakdown.

 

[BooBooKing]

We are going to Spain in a few months-does anyone who lives in Spain know if these are easily from shops or garages available over there-they seem to be rare as hens teeth here. It seems we can't wait till 2026 as previously thought.

 

[Peavy]

Saw a few breakdowns of verifiable vehicles last month in Spain and not one of them had a flashing light… they did have triangles…

Not mandatory yet until January, Garry.

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[Peavy]

We are going to Spain in a few months-does anyone who lives in Spain know if these are easily from shops or garages available over there-they seem to be rare as hens teeth here. It seems we can't wait till 2026 as previously thought.

Them seem to be available in shops like Norauto or Feu Vert at the moment.

 

[Brains]

I like the idea of a very visible beacon such as these....however, if I have to adopt the same technique as Mr Brains above...it flies in the face of all I know of breaking down on a dangerous road....i.e get out of the vehicle and somewhere safe as quickly (and safely) as possible.

You can take the mobile phone, the torch, the HiViz vest, the electric flares, the GPS triangle, and the baking tray with you as you exit the vehicle!

Apparently the triangles are supposed to be placed on the roof.
They may have had a car steel roof in mind, rather then a van roof 3m high.

Therefore nothing stopping you activating the triangle by attaching it to the baking tray and then putting it either on your bike rack or simply on the ground, and then putting a normal triangle 100m behind your MoHo.

It strikes me we now all need to think about a 'grab bag' in case of an breakdown.

 

[Lenny HB]

This is actually a serious question.
As these new triangles need a magnetic surface to activate, and most motorhomes do not have a magnetic surface at the rear.

My solution (not tried it yet), would be to get a baking tray out of the oven.
Using the rear skylight over the bed, put the baking tray on the roof.

Put the Triangle on top of the baking tray!

No oven or steel trays in the van & what if it's blowing gale force winds.

 

[Brains]

No oven or steel trays in the van & what if it's blowing gale force winds.

Other magnetic items are available.

Foot pump
Spare wheel
BBQ
Gas bottle
Bicycle
Frying pan
Tool box
Spare number plate
Tinned food
Biscuit tin/Tea caddy

It's worth thinking about now, as the day you need to do this will be after a shunt or mechanical breakdown, in the dark, in the pissing rain on the side of a dangerous motorway with traffic passing you at 100mph, and your passengers in panic mode.

 

[nicholsong]

Are these going to be the next French breathalysers?

On a serious note the concept is excellent, with the emergency services being alerted immediately of a breakdown.

It will be interesting to find out what is the average respose time from activation till the emergency services attend - if at all.

Are they going to call breakdown and if they do will you have to pay if it is not the organisation for which you have paid, ot got within insurance cover.

Has anyone seen any guidance on what to do after activating the V16?

The geolocater will give position nut no other information, such of type of vehicle, injuries to occupants, fuel spillage etc., so how will the emergency services priototise when they have several alerts?

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[StillGoing]

Them seem to be available in shops like Norauto or Feu Vert at the moment.

Are there any that don’t need a magnet to attach to the vehicle?

 

[Bessy765]

I just did a quick forum search on this, and nothing came up. I didn't want a lot of groans and yawns because it was old hat.

I have just been sent this. “Spain's transport ministry is bringing in a new law requiring all vehicles to be equipped with an orange flashing warning light - including drivers visiting from France or other European countries.

If you are visiting Spain by car, you will soon need to buy a new piece of equipment, thanks to a change in Spain's road safety laws.

From January 2026, drivers in Spain will replace the red warning triangle with an orange fashing light, known as a V16, that goes on the rooftop of the car in case of accident or breakdown. “

What shocked me was this … “In fact it is already required for camper vans, and has been since 2023. The new law covers all vehicles that are driven on Spanish roads, including those registered in another country. Rental vehicles hired in Spain should supply the lights once the law comes into force.”

I certainly didn't know that.

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Mounted it on a piece of wood and use a suction cup. It doesn’t have to be mounted on the roof. There are ones that transmit a signal when activate to the police mine dont but are legal

 

[LittleGreyCat]

If I put a flashing light on the roof of the MH it will have to be right at the back for anyone to see it.
Then again I'm not planning to go to Spain any time e soon.