Pay for your ‘Wild Camping’ in Scotland……

[Gellyneck]

......... think of him he wasn't being anti motorhome .

but it doesn't make as good a story!

 

[Rapido925M]

Most of the ferry ports which we visited in the Hebrides had CDP and fresh water foc

Gordon

 

[ambulancekidd]

That is bang on Lenny. They want it all it seems, but don’t want to splash out on adequate facilities. More people should call them out.

Of course, England doesn't have a tourist tax, just a wide open English Channel to welcome the "asylum seekers" into the UK.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

 

[ambulancekidd]

I don’t get the ‘we want to be free of Westminster, but let’s shackle ourselves to the EU’ sentiment…….?

Thats fine, but the question has to be who are the "we" that you are referring to? I didn't vote to leave the union, but the forum members who hate the Scot's seem determined to rub our noses in what the bonkers SNP were saying.
There is a very good old saying that "united we stand, divided we fall" but that seems to have been lost on many of our English neighbours.

 

[AndyPK]

The ‘we’ are the SNP and their acolytes……

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[Joethejoiner]

I don’t get the ‘we want to be free of Westminster, but let’s shackle ourselves to the EU’ sentiment…….?

That is if you think being part of the biggest trading group is being shackled .

 

[AndyPK]

No - but it’s the other ‘obligations’ that go with being part of that group that I would worry about…….

 

[Joethejoiner]

No - but it’s the other ‘obligations’ that go with being part of that group that I would worry about…….

Well I could agree with that but , in practice , it is the UK that are having the problems .

 

[AndyPK]

……along with the rest of Europe, I believe……?

 

[Joethejoiner]

……along with the rest of Europe, I believe……?

Have they all left too ?

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[BusyBuilder]

All this animosity that is quoted on here is, imo, just keyboard warriors.
I'm an incomer to the Highlands, lived here 20 years now with my Invernesian lass.
I have never ever had any animosity towards me, being a builder I do get about and meet lots of people all over the Highlands. Also having a motorhome we wildcamp 90% or more and know plenty of places to go. Never have we had any problems with locals whilst staying anywhere. We pick up rubbish and try to keep places clean from rubbish left in laybys or camp stops.
If motorhomers on here think The Highlands is not for them that's fine, as we get 6million visitors pa, I don't think missing a few motorhomers will be a problem, but if you want to come I'm sure you'll enjoy the scenery and beautiful environment.

 

[AndyPK]

Have they all left too ?

Sorry, I don’t understand the question…..?

 

[Gellyneck]

No - but it’s the other ‘obligations’ that go with being part of that group that I would worry about…….

Let's not reopen the "B" debate but on the other side of the coin is membership of EU would also deliver (repair) significant export benefits to Scotland by return to free trade with reduction in red tape.

4 of the top 10 Scotch exports markets are in the EU (France, Germany, Spain and Poland), c2/3 of the largest UK food export (Scottish salmon) is to the EU, c2/3 of global langoustine production emanates from Scotland, etc.

When members of the EU Scotland received considerable infrastructure investment from the EU.

Whilst there are obligations there has to be a balanced review of the pros and cons to Scottish membership of the EU.

 

[Gellyneck]

All this animosity that is quoted on here is, imo, just keyboard warriors.
I'm an incomer to the Highlands, lived here 20 years now with my Invernesian lass.
I have never ever had any animosity towards me, being a builder I do get about and meet lots of people all over the Highlands. Also having a motorhome we wildcamp 90% or more and know plenty of places to go. Never have we had any problems with locals whilst staying anywhere. We pick up rubbish and try to keep places clean from rubbish left in laybys or camp stops.
If motorhomers on here think The Highlands is not for them that's fine, as we get 6million visitors pa, I don't think missing a few motorhomers will be a problem, but if you want to come I'm sure you'll enjoy the scenery and beautiful environment.

STOP IT!
Pointing out the benefits of Scotland will just encourage folk to visit just when we thought the "backlash boycott" would make mair room fur us when we're there for a couple of months a year!

 

[n8ess]

Problem with the Highlands (where I live) is its approximately 10% of the UK but we only have a population of about 250,000 and get around 6 million visitors, we can't afford to pay for the facilities the everyone expects.

No mention of the revenue generated from the tourism

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[Grianan]

Let's not reopen the "B" debate but on the other side of the coin is membership of EU would also deliver (repair) significant export benefits to Scotland by return to free trade with reduction in red tape.

4 of the top 10 Scotch exports markets are in the EU (France, Germany, Spain and Poland), c2/3 of the largest UK food export (Scottish salmon) is to the EU, c2/3 of global langoustine production emanates from Scotland, etc.

When members of the EU Scotland received considerable infrastructure investment from the EU.

Whilst there are obligations there has to be a balanced review of the pros and cons to Scottish membership of the EU.

This is exactly it. The highlands received significant funding from the EU for infrastructure project including roads. It was promised that this EU funding would be replicated once EU finding stopped (see how I avoided the B word ) but sadly the promised funds haven’t yet materialised

 

[AndyPK]

When members of the EU Scotland received considerable infrastructure investment from the EU.

Whilst there are obligations there has to be a balanced review of the pros and cons to Scottish membership of the EU.

To be fair (or pedantic… ), Scotland has never been a member of the EU - it was the ‘United Kingdom’ that was the member…..
The reason I‘ve highlighted this is because the SNP will insist that, when independent, Scotland will ‘rejoin’ the EU………

 

[coroner]

You need to pay a visit to the following Facebook Groups where you will be astounded by the sentiments evident there:

NC500 The Land Weeps

NC500 The Dirty Truth

NC500 for Wingers

Ian

Really useful I joined before doing the NC500 after lockdown they had some really useful info on places to stay we had a great time.

 

[Gellyneck]

To be fair (or pedantic… ), Scotland has never been a member of the EU - it was the ‘United Kingdom’ that was the member…..
The reason I‘ve highlighted this is because the SNP will insist that, when independent, Scotland will ‘rejoin’ the EU………

Yes, being pedantic, it was the UK that was a member of EU however you raised, in relation to Scotland, "No - but it’s the other ‘obligations’ that go with being part of that group that I would worry about……." but failed to balance this with the potential benefits of membership hence my comment "Whilst there are obligations there has to be a balanced review of the pros and cons to Scottish membership of the EU."

 

[bigtwin]

Really useful I joined before doing the NC500 after lockdown they had some really useful info on places to stay we had a great time.

Sounds as though you were on one of the pro NC500 groups not those that I listed, or is that your way of saying that their presence was counterproductive to their cause.

Ian

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[coroner]

Sounds as though you were on one of the pro NC500 groups not those that I listed, or is that your way of saying that their presence was counterproductive to their cause.

Ian

No mistaking the agression on those groups could power a small town def counterproductive as they give all the good wildcamping spots away.

 

[Turnersnhooch]

Wow that was some read. I'm unsure now where I stand on anything anymore. I'm a Yorkshireman through n through. But I live in an English town given to Scotland in the 12th century and England couldn't be bothered to claim it back. So I sort of live in Scotland. Lol I love Scotland done nc500 before it got cool. And many trips to the lochs. Then there were lots of places to stay. But in a van we did campsites as we ain't back packers to qualify for wild camping. Per se. But back then campsites were reasonable. Now there robbers in England too. No wonder so many want to free camp/wild camp/ push there luck. It's the ignorant rubbish tipers and noise makers who just ruin the whole experience for everyone else. As pointed out on this post. When I go away I want peace n quiet n glass of red a good book with a fantastic vista to marvel at. Even on campsites we get the influx of noisy kids and parents with no clue how to conduct them selves or control their animals.
Since lockdown the influx of the so called would be campers in there builders vans with every conceivable plastic toy for their delinquent offspring scatted across the site boils my p???SS
The site management don't give a stuff n you pay good money to have someone,s tribe kick balls or bow n arrows at your pride n joy. I don't mind paying a tax or a site fee .but I want some assurance I'm getting what I pay for. Weather it's travelling around or on a site. I think the whole society needs a reset.
Rant over.

 

[Clive Mott]

Fundemental difference comparing France to Scotland. France only applies Tourist Tax to foreigners. Scotland like Wales and N Ireland and England are part of the UNITED KINGDOM.
If the Scots promote tourism then they need to put in the infrastructure to support it. Motorcaravans and Campers are a massive growing industry and the Scots need to wake up.

 

[Bear]

I'm a I go away I want peace n quiet n glass of red a good book with a fantastic vista to marvel at. Even on campsites we get the influx of noisy kids and parents with no clue how to conduct them selves or control their animals.

Likewise hence I only look for adult only sites now.

The site management don't give a stuff n you pay good money to have someone,s tribe kick balls or bow n arrows at your pride n joy.

In a little defence of site management, I was a site warden for several years and it is so difficult to bloody manage.
And yes I blame the parents / system as one thing the kids and lot of time parents lack respect for others.

 

[Norrie59]

There seems to be a lot of critisism of Scotland and its way of doing things and some has been really quite rude.
If you don't like us or our country please ignore the advertising and stay away. Those who aren't rude will be welcomed as always.

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[BusyBuilder]

Last site we used, in Walrs at Harlech cost us £47 for a piece of grass. In front of us was a motorhome with 3 little yappy dogs that just never stopped. To one side we had a hedge and other side a motorhome with 3 young kids screaming their heads off till after 10pm.
So, no thanks never again.

 

[Bear]

Last site we used, in Walrs at Harlech cost us £47 for a piece of grass. In front of us was a motorhome with 3 little yappy dogs that just never stopped. To one side we had a hedge and other side a motorhome with 3 young kids screaming their heads off till after 10pm.
So, no thanks never again.

Again another reason I look for adult only. But can still get the yappy dogs at times.

 

[Durant]

We are in France at the moment. They add on a tourist tax to almost everything. I guess Scotland could do the same if they provided better facilities.
Phil

We yust came back from France , perhaps that's the reason we didn't see many English reg motorhomes,why get taxed twice ?

 

[KLWinton]

I think a lot of you need to get off your high horse. Scotland is visited and enjoyed by every nation in the world so don’t think that if the free loading motorhomers who boast they have never paid for a site in the whatever years of travelling don’t come back, believe me you won’t be missed. I have never seen so many racist, bigoted comments in my life. Reminds me of a motorhome waiting at the ferry at Dover for a trip to France. His motorhome was packed with everything you could think of because he wasn’t going to contribute anything to THEIR economy. Ignorance springs to mind. Who needs this types? We don’t need it in Scotland so glad you won’t be back. For those who respect, enjoy and contribute, our door will always be open. Disrespectful freeloaders F off!! Why buy a motorhome to use as a way of cheap living, sleeping in supermarket car parks and dumping your waste in a McDonald’s restaurant. So classy. I have had caravans and motorhomes all my life and always contribute wherever I go as you all should.

 

[jess12]

Problem with the Highlands (where I live) is its approximately 10% of the UK but we only have a population of about 250,000 and get around 6 million visitors, we can't afford to pay for the facilities the everyone expects.

I maybe missing the point here but if 6million visitors a year visit I wonder how much the locals would miss the revenue that these visitors bring .I have toured Scotland many times and spent a fair bit on meals drinks bars and cafes and sometimes at over inflated prices depending on were you are but in conversation with some they would struggle without the tourist income

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