No transit France.

If you are desperate to visit France from the UK you can always take this boat. I believe it will be empty on the way back to France.
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pagey said:
After yesterday's french figures maybe they are trying to protect us
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😂 Don’t need protecting, very happy with my self imposed ways of working to avoid the virus… just need Macron to open his border as it’s serving no purpose having it closed.
 
Carpmart said:
So what are peoples thoughts around conditions that need to change for this French entry (travel) embargo to be lifted?

With high case rates in France (200k yesterday), the argument of protecting from Omicron coming across the border is a red herring now; so what needs to change to enable me to travel through France to Spain on 17th Jan?
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Hmm.. It's a bit nonsensical as is keeping the test to return to the uk which was brought in to monitor/slow omicron entering the uk but i don't think governments want to be seen to be removing restrictions whilst things are so bad so unfortunately these daft restrictions will probably stay until numbers have peaked and start to fall.... Maybe end of January/feb???
 
Helen Ariel said:
Hmm.. It's a bit nonsensical as is keeping the test to return to the uk which was brought in to monitor/slow omicron entering the uk but i don't think governments want to be seen to be removing restrictions whilst things are so bad so unfortunately these daft restrictions will probably stay until numbers have peaked and start to fall.... Maybe end of January/feb???
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I follow your thinking, but not the French logic. If it’s to protect against new variant entry to France from the UK, then I fully support it, but the French must see that horse has bolted, so why maintain the restriction? (The UK had African country restrictions for a couple of weeks then scrapped that just as quickly)

What are peoples thoughts on what needs to change for the French to lift it? As Helen Ariel suggests, is it a peak being reached? Have they not reached that already? Just no need for these ridiculous constraints to be in place… 🤬
 
Offagain said:
It is just a return to the compelling reasons to travel rule.

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Well why shouldn’t I travel? I’m adding zero risk into any Covid scenario you can think up!

Triple jabbed, sensible personal approach to the risk of infection… it’s now absolute lunacy, Omicron is rife in all of Europe and is clearly for the majority, especially those who have taken personal responsibility and got properly jabbed, a pretty inconsequential illness, so why the border restriction?
 
Carpmart said:
Well why shouldn’t I travel? I’m adding zero risk into any Covid scenario you can think up!

Triple jabbed, sensible personal approach to the risk of infection… it’s now absolute lunacy, Omicron is rife in all of Europe and is clearly for the majority, especially those who have taken personal responsibility and got properly jabbed, a pretty inconsequential illness, so why the border restriction?
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It's the numbers innit. Sure it appears that Omicron is a "milder" infection than Delta and that a far smaller proportion of those contracting it will need hospitalisation (although a significant majority of those who do catch it still need several days off work). The thing is a small proportion of a huge number is still a big number, so pressure on health resources, exacerbated by staff off sick, will be immense. Couple that with services of all kinds being hit hard by staff absences and it makes sense that you would want to reduce potential "demand" somehow.
 
TDub49 said:
It's the numbers innit. Sure it appears that Omicron is a "milder" infection than Delta and that a far smaller proportion of those contracting it will need hospitalisation (although a significant majority of those who do catch it still need several days off work). The thing is a small proportion of a huge number is still a big number, so pressure on health resources, exacerbated by staff off sick, will be immense. Couple that with services of all kinds being hit hard by staff absences and it makes sense that you would want to reduce potential "demand" somehow.
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Get all that, but why is the border closed?
 
I think it's more about protecting the French health service than stopping Covid being taken into France now. I'm sure many UK citizens would be the first to complain if UK hospitals were full of EU travellers taking up beds

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Carpmart said:
Well why shouldn’t I travel? I’m adding zero risk into any Covid scenario you can think up!

Triple jabbed, sensible personal approach to the risk of infection… it’s now absolute lunacy, Omicron is rife in all of Europe and is clearly for the majority, especially those who have taken personal responsibility and got properly jabbed, a pretty inconsequential illness, so why the border restriction?
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Because you are British and he has to punish Britain. Sod all to do with Covid.
 
Land Yachties said:
I think it's more about protecting the French health service than stopping Covid being taken into France now. I'm sure many UK citizens would be the first to complain if UK hospitals were full of EU travellers taking up beds
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I listen very carefully to our government and the risk of me adding to the workload of the NHS at the moment with the sensible personal responsibility I take and following instructions and being triple jabbed, is frankly pretty low, according to our Government, so what makes it any different when I cross the channel? Nothing! Utter bloody tosh this border being closed!!
 
DDJC said:
Because you are British and he has to punish Britain. Sod all to do with Covid.
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Sadly you may be correct! Still don’t get what needs to change to lift the border restrictions?
 
BBC news is now reporting that Eurotunnel is advising that people should not try to transit through France to get back to the UK.

Looks like that some will be having an extended stay.
 
peterc10 said:
BBC news is now reporting that Eurotunnel is advising that people should not try to transit through France to get back to the UK.

Looks like that some will be having an extended stay.
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Why?? What possible reason is there?

The whole world has gone mad!!!
 
Jenka said:
Yes and as always blame the British ! But then again many Brits like to ridicule their own country rather than support it .
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It does make me wonder why some on this forum slag of our politicians and country so much, if they hate it that much why not bugger off and live somewhere else, think they will find pretty much every country is the same just looks better when you are there on a few weeks holiday.
 
Just checked Eurotunnel's website and this advice has been added today

"Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU."

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DDJC said:
No.

France isn't the EU, despite what the French would like to believe. This is personal, little to do with any EU instruction, and is orchestrated by Macron as he tries to look tough before the April elections.

What bothers me is that no none has actually sat back and thought "why is looking tough against UK a vote winner". Perhaps there is a rumbling, instinctive satisfaction amongst some French folk, at putting one over on UK? I struggle with believing this, but then the only French I have interacted with, have had a vested interest in not peeing me off, as they earn their crust from tourism. The same as many of us, except those who live or have lived in France.

Nevertheless, your post completely proves the claim that France believes that we should be punished for leaving the EU.

www.express.co.uk

France's Brexit punishment letter backfires - 'No benefits' in EU

FRANCE's call on the EU to punish the UK over the fishing row between Paris and London spectacularly backfired.
www.express.co.uk www.express.co.uk
www.independent.co.uk

EU must show UK ‘damaged’ by Brexit as warning to other nations, says France

France says ‘restoration of trust’ lies upon the UK granting more fishing licences
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
www.politico.eu

France requests tougher EU action over UK fishing row in private letter

French Prime Minister Jean Castex wrote to Ursula von der Leyen.
www.politico.eu www.politico.eu

Plenty more examples, equally supportive to the notion of the French leadership's eagerness to see UK actually punished.

Finally, this is all a bit daft. After the April elections, whether Macron or someone else gets in, there will no more need for more immature French posturing, and we will see a few years of concord - until the next election looms...
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Agreed. But i reckon he's cozying up to his next move. his wife will be having a look at right move for Brussels.
 
peterc10 said:
Just checked Eurotunnel's website and this advice has been added today

"Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU."
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Utter madness!! The French border being closed is now making our small damp island near Europe, feel a lot smaller! Effectively we are now land locked with no easily accessible border options available!

I am sure many of us have taken personal responsibility and are triple jabbed and compliant with sensible precautions (hands face space)… so now we have to get on with life, yet our Govt seem to be just accepting these constraints… There is absolutely no reason for these border restrictions. Utter bloody madness!!!! 🤬🤬
 
peterc10 said:
Just checked Eurotunnel's website and this advice has been added today

"Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU."
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That doesn't say you can't transit north to UK.
Just not to EU countries.
 
peterc10 said:
Just checked Eurotunnel's website and this advice has been added today

"Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU."
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Peter where on the website is that info please?
Jay

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Coastal Cruiser. said:
It does make me wonder why some on this forum slag of our politicians and country so much, if they hate it that much why not bugger off and live somewhere else, think they will find pretty much every country is the same just looks better when you are there on a few weeks holiday.
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We did lol
 
gus-lopez said:
That doesn't state permanent residents in transit?

A UK citizen permanently resident in another EU country is not a "3rd country national", but is equal to a national of that country just without the passport. If they are not banning Spaniards from transiting France then to do so to residents of other EU states is totally illegal under EU legislation and the terms of the withdrawal act.
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Agreed but the OP did not say they are permanent residents, what they said was it isn't their fault they are overstaying the 90 day period. and the UK is not within the EU so my guess is it is the responsibility of any 3rd country individual to take action so they do not overstay (I am not being judgmental just pragmatic).

I think it comes back to personal responsibility, we can wish things to be a certain way but if 90 days limit is approaching and there is a potential lock down it could be considered prudent for a non-EU resident to get out before the time is up. Now the actions individuals decide to take is entirely up to them.
 
Carpmart said:
Utter madness!! The French border being closed is now making our small damp island near Europe, feel a lot smaller! Effectively we are now land locked with no easily accessible border options available!

I am sure many of us have taken personal responsibility and are triple jabbed and compliant with sensible precautions (hands face space)… so now we have to get on with life, yet our Govt seem to be just accepting these constraints… There is absolutely no reason for these border restrictions. Utter bloody madness!!!! 🤬🤬
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Don't shoot the bloody messenger

Yorick said:
That doesn't say you can't transit north to UK.
Just not to EU countries.
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I am not sure what it means and, from what Eurotunnel said about it, I am not sure that they know what it means.

Only time will tell us what it meant, but by then the rules will probably have changed again.

Remember the famous Chinese curse "may you live in interesting times". And we have had 3 years of that so far.

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