Germany/Austria August/September information sharing.

Italy is open !!
not seen any other Brits with or without motorhomes since we left Belgium.
Getting more sunny as we head towards San Marino.
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My apologies if I’ve missed mention of it. I’ve had a quick browse through the thread to check but haven’t found it.
My point is mandatory testing on entering Germany from a high risk area. We are heading up to the Mosel, Germany tomorrow from Barcelona. And yes Spain is a high risk area so it will be testing for us. Great. It means we don’t have to do 14 days quarantine which is what they did require but from 7 August started mandatory testing. I was checking yesterday for updates on their rules and I saw that UK is now included as a high risk area.
After a few weeks there we will transit France on way to the Tunnel for the UK and yes it’s allowed as long as you don’t get out your vehicle or allow anyone else in it.
So, has anyone from UK entered Germany in the past few days? I’m not sure when they added UK to their list.
 
My apologies if I’ve missed mention of it. I’ve had a quick browse through the thread to check but haven’t found it.
My point is mandatory testing on entering Germany from a high risk area. We are heading up to the Mosel, Germany tomorrow from Barcelona. And yes Spain is a high risk area so it will be testing for us. Great. It means we don’t have to do 14 days quarantine which is what they did require but from 7 August started mandatory testing. I was checking yesterday for updates on their rules and I saw that UK is now included as a high risk area.
After a few weeks there we will transit France on way to the Tunnel for the UK and yes it’s allowed as long as you don’t get out your vehicle or allow anyone else in it.
So, has anyone from UK entered Germany in the past few days? I’m not sure when they added UK to their list.
 
New since the last change:
France: The French overseas territories of Guadeloupe and St. Martin are considered risk areas.
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland: The British overseas territory
Gibraltar is considered a risk area.
Netherlands: The autonomous countries Aruba and St. Maarten are considered risk areas. Andorra: The Principality of Andorra is a risk area.
I copied the above from a German website.
 
MyGalSal
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MyGalSal said:
My apologies if I’ve missed mention of it. I’ve had a quick browse through the thread to check but haven’t found it.
My point is mandatory testing on entering Germany from a high risk area. We are heading up to the Mosel, Germany tomorrow from Barcelona. And yes Spain is a high risk area so it will be testing for us. Great. It means we don’t have to do 14 days quarantine which is what they did require but from 7 August started mandatory testing. I was checking yesterday for updates on their rules and I saw that UK is now included as a high risk area.
After a few weeks there we will transit France on way to the Tunnel for the UK and yes it’s allowed as long as you don’t get out your vehicle or allow anyone else in it.
So, has anyone from UK entered Germany in the past few days? I’m not sure when they added UK to their list.
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Not sure your info on uk being high risk is correct.
Have you got link.
Passed into germany 2 days ago from belgium (twice infection rate uk) and no checks whatsoever
 
Apologies. You are right. It is Gibraltar. I should take my time and read it properly!
Ah well. I will let you know how we get on with our testing. Should arrive Trier Wednesday 2 September.
 
And talking about travelling through Belgium to Germany.

I’ve recently up-plated from 3.5t to 4t (paper exercise - but not told the DVLA yet).

So do I need to get a Toll Tag for the Belgian network (travelling from Calais via Brussels to Germany)?

I will probably be around 3.5t or slightly over.

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If you have upgraded to 4t you are classed as 4t whatever weight your van might show on a weighbridge. I imagine you will have a new vin plate along with your paper exercise.
 
ShaKen said:
And talking about travelling through Belgium to Germany.

I’ve recently up-plated from 3.5t to 4t (paper exercise - but not told the DVLA yet).

So do I need to get a Toll Tag for the Belgian network (travelling from Calais via Brussels to Germany)?

I will probably be around 3.5t or slightly over.
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No. Because you haven’t told the DVLA. So, to me, you haven’t up-plated yet.
 
ShaKen said:
And talking about travelling through Belgium to Germany.

I’ve recently up-plated from 3.5t to 4t (paper exercise - but not told the DVLA yet).

So do I need to get a Toll Tag for the Belgian network (travelling from Calais via Brussels to Germany)?

I will probably be around 3.5t or slightly over.
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There is no toll tag for Belgium and my view would be you are only 3.5 ton til you tell the DVLA.

If you have the stickers and it is the post then upon being stopped you could say to the "powers that be" that it is in the post and PNC has not been updated yet.

A really nefarious person would have kept a copy of their 3.5 tonne V5 as well as theit 4 tonne version and show the appropriate one for what they wanted to do (good for austria and swiss vignettes)
 
Paul W - if you're Aachen or below as you enter Germany, there is a pleasant Stellplatz at Braubach, just south of Coblenz. It's an old quayside on the Rhine, right under the Marksburg Schloss and the run down that side of the Rhine is always a treat to continue via. Can't tell you any more about it, but worth a try. Good luck.
 
We have moved on today down to the Neckar valley. We have decided to give Heidelberg a miss as unsure how busy it might be, and it will be there next year !

We stopped at Hirschorn for the aire right alongside the river, but it is 12.50 which in good weather is probably good value, but it is also 4 decent bottles of wine, and for us, it didnt quite cut the moutarde. so we have moved on to the FLT site at Eberbach eating lunch having a coffee and watching the rain fall contemplating bike, motorbike or foot.

Our current plan is to be at Lake Konstance for Wednesday night as the weather improves on Thursday.

I m going to add a few Belgian/French stopovers to the map as i got the laptop out. Bergues Pont de Plaisnace Givet. Sorts of places that are overnight stops for late arrivals

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Is there a reason people are stopping in France and Belgium (on this'germany' thread)? If you're not getting out of the van to enjoy some of these lovely Aires what's the point. .. maybe I'm misunderstanding but as I see it both countries are high risk ... Germany isn't too far away.
I understand some people are ok with q14 and are staying in France and others are going to be away for a substantial period of time after France.. I'm not really looking to argue. .. just curious?
 
sdc77 said:
Is there a reason people are stopping in France and Belgium (on this'germany' thread)? If you're not getting out of the van to enjoy some of these lovely Aires what's the point. .. maybe I'm misunderstanding but as I see it both countries are high risk ... Germany isn't too far away.
I understand some people are ok with q14 and are staying in France and others are going to be away for a substantial period of time after France.. I'm not really looking to argue. .. just curious?
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People are stopping in France and Belgium for a few reasons.
first one is because they can
secondly getting a tunnel that arrives late having travelled through UK and dont fancy a 4 hours trip the other side.
People on the way back might have an early tunnel so stopping overnight (without getting out)
Another reason would be if you have 3 weeks holiday, it is possible to spend 1 week in France and 2 weeks in Germany (if there is no change in situation) and still avoid Q14.

Hope that answers a bit of it
 
sdc77 said:
Is there a reason people are stopping in France and Belgium (on this'germany' thread)? If you're not getting out of the van to enjoy some of these lovely Aires what's the point. .. maybe I'm misunderstanding but as I see it both countries are high risk ... Germany isn't too far away.
I understand some people are ok with q14 and are staying in France and others are going to be away for a substantial period of time after France.. I'm not really looking to argue. .. just curious?
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I am travelling to Germany and intend to go slowly and do a couple of stops in Belgium and then after 2 weeks in Germany I will just go straight to tunnel to avoid Q14
 
suavecarve said:
Germany 21.0 up by 0.1
Uk 22.9 down by 0.3
France 81.9 up by 6.8
Italy 20.9 up by 1.5
Netherlands 42.1 down 0.8
Belgium 46.5 down 1.2
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Germany 21.1 up by 0.1
UK 23 up 0.1
France 85.1 up by 3.2
Italy 22.2 up by 1.3 **** start making notes for a week to 10 days time.
Netherlands 41.2 down by 0.9
Belgium 50.7 up by 4.2
 
suavecarve said:
Our current plan is to be at Lake Konstance for Wednesday night as the weather improves on Thursday.
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This is our plan as well just waiting for the weather to pick up sitting out the bucketing rain in a free Stellplatz at Tuttlingen, why pay to sit in the rain 😀
Looks like the weather will be good for a while once we get to the end of the week. Have you booked a site or will you be on a Stellaplatz?

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MyGalSal said:
My point is mandatory testing on entering Germany from a high risk area. We are heading up to the Mosel, Germany tomorrow.
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Came into the Mosel yesterday from Belgium (A4/A1) without any problems. However there was the option for travellers to be voluntarily tested as we entered Germany, which I assume is what this sign means.
Overnight in Trier last night at the choker Treviris Stellplatz and saw another 3 GB plates. Currently at Weingut Feiten, in Longuich on the Mosel (20k upriver from Trier). Only Brit although 1 other came when it was full. No rain as yet.
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MichaelT /.you said. . Nearly all cars and MH stopped by security for explosive testing and one behind us they looked in garage.

The only reason they didn’t search you is because the woman told you it was ok to go ! , the guy in the office Came out & gave her a telling off as she should’t have let you go , the reason I know this is because i think I was the one behind you , I got out to show them in my passenger garage door , disappointed you didn’t even give me a wave 😁

did it look like this ?

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We will be entering Germany from Luxembourg. I believe there is a testing station on A64. We will use that one then probably the B51 down on to the Moselle. I believe you have to have a second test after 5-7 days so we may need to return to same testing station. I’m not sure. We usually head up towards Enkirch but who knows this time. Any recommendations for stellplatz nearer the Trier end - give or take 20-30kms?
 
Hello Happy1

Where to get info on Austrian/German aires?

Have you used CamperContact (online)? We find it very useful. (I haven't read all responses yet, so maybe someone has posted this suggestion already.)

We live in Germany, spend a lot of time in our van, and can testify to the fact that there are a lot of wonderful landscapes here and that motorhoming is pretty good. There's a nice feeling of freedom, with plenty of free spots if that's your thing, often with electricity for 50 cents or an Euro per KwH, and water usually for one Euro for 80-100 liters.
 
wp1234 said:
This is our plan as well just waiting for the weather to pick up sitting out the bucketing rain in a free Stellplatz at Tuttlingen, why pay to sit in the rain 😀
Looks like the weather will be good for a while once we get to the end of the week. Have you booked a site or will you be on a Stellaplatz?
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For all the planning i do i havent got a scooby.
We will go from one end to the other but i am aware of a weingut about 5kms inland somewhere.

Owing to weather we are now thinking of finding a brewery or weingut til wednesday and giving the nhs some work to do on our livers.

I ll have a look later

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MyGalSal said:
We will be entering Germany from Luxembourg. I believe there is a testing station on A64. We will use that one then probably the B51 down on to the Moselle. I believe you have to have a second test after 5-7 days so we may need to return to same testing station. I’m not sure. We usually head up towards Enkirch but who knows this time. Any recommendations for stellplatz nearer the Trier end - give or take 20-30kms?
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This is a "memory" post so will need checking.
If you have come from a safe country into germany (that particular federal state) then you only had to test if you were in Luxembourg for 3 nights. Otherwise you didnt have to but had to q14 (no testing at that time)
Info was correct about 3 weeks ago but certainly needs checking
 
suavecarve said:
This is a "memory" post so will need checking.
If you have come from a safe country into germany (that particular federal state) then you only had to test if you were in Luxembourg for 3 nights. Otherwise you didnt have to but had to q14 (no testing at that time)
Info was correct about 3 weeks ago but certainly needs checking
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I’m getting very confused now. Can I drive through a Belgium and Luxembourg over 3-4 days and then just enter Germany?
 
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suavecarve said:
For all the planning i do i havent got a scooby.
We will go from one end to the other but i am aware of a weingut about 5kms inland somewhere.

Owing to weather we are now thinking of finding a brewery or weingut til wednesday and giving the nhs some work to do on our livers.

I ll have a look later
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If your anywhere near Bad Bergzabern on the way down I recommend weingut Hitziget
( searchforsites) super site good wine .€8 euros a night all the services and good 🍷
 
Aly1 said:
I’m getting very confused now. Can I drive through a Belgium and Luxembourg over 3-4 days and then just enter Germany?
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Yep. It is the fortnight before the day you return that matters for q14.
After you leave uk you need to abide by the countries rules you enter.
There may be rules on entering germany from luxembourg. I am not up to date with them
 
I can see that people will stop in France and Belgium because they can or because they're going to spend a fortnight in Germany before returning.. but the impression I get is that some aren't going to stay isolated in their vans..(as they 'will' on the way back) .. and therefore are happy to put themselves at risk in countries with comparatively high rates . Or use Germany as their "let's see if I caught it country" which seems a little unfair to the Germans and other motorhomers who haven't exposed themselves to excess danger Maybe I'm just getting the wrong end of the stick here. We don't intend to stop in either Belgium of France. Looks like we won't even be going to Italy now either

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