French Lockdown

[MITHRANDIR]

Agree,,whilst still SD ing we managed to cycle,walk and swim most days.Had the pool all to ourselves on two different sites most days ..Five days driving home other than fuel we never got close to anyone..That all changed back home..BUSBY.

Had to do a little shopping today, unbelievable the crowds out and about, the traffic was just as bad as ever, i thought we were supposed to stay at home, seems to me a lot of people are taking no notice whatsoever of the lockdown.
I for one feel much safer in europe in me van than here.

 

[Spriddler]

in 30 years of visiting europe i have never been in an "english" type bar, and never will,

I certainly wouldn't as for the past ten or maybe fifteen years I haven't had any desire to go into an English type of bar in England. I have no moral or principle led reasons; it just doesn't enter my thoughts any more than copying Jenben 's wild winter swimming which makes me shiver just to read it in her posts.

 

[MITHRANDIR]

I certainly wouldn't as for the past ten or maybe fifteen years I haven't had any desire to go into an English type of bar in England. I have no moral or principal led reasons; it just doesn't enter my thoughts any more than copying Jenben 's wild winter swimming that makes me shiver just to read it in her posts.

Quite right, quite right indeed.

 

[suavecarve]

Interesting reading from last year and how right the naysayers were then.
Just over a month after this thread started we were out there

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And this was the reaction to us going.

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[Al n Val]

Think you were out after we returned BUSBY.

no we were their sept till december and would have been back in Dec if we hadn't been locked down as it was so much safer for us

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[Chris]

We had 2 weeks in Wales last year and it was one of the best holidays ever.

Ok the weather was favourable but it really it was fantastic.

I can put up with that for another summer and maybe an Autumn getaway somewhere.

 

[busby]

no we were their sept till december and would have been back in Dec if we hadn't been locked down as it was so much safer for us

We left early November,,BUSBY.

 

[gus-lopez]

What a horrible way to live

get out and enjoy life

maybe that is why it continues to infect if you are't doing the same ? Normal here & has been for 12 months..

 

[MITHRANDIR]

Interesting reading from last year and how right the naysayers were then.
Just over a month after this thread started we were out there

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And this was the reaction to us going.

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Naysayers indeed.

 

[Just smiffy]

What a horrible way to live

get out and enjoy life

Not nice.....

some people can’t get out and about even if they wanted too...

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[MITHRANDIR]

What a horrible way to live

get out and enjoy life

And potentially kill others while getting out and enjoying life
it is this selfish attitude that perpetuates this dreadful disease

 

[Jenben]

it just doesn't enter my thoughts any more than copying @Jenben 's wild winter swimming which makes me shiver just to read it in her posts.

Booked in for my first swim for quite some time at the end of the month !

 

[BillyKontiki]

Staycation for us this year and the more of us the better, maybe the councils will realise the potential earnings from Motorhomes and caravans alike,that they will get there finger out there arses and provide facilities more in line with our European friends.

 

[MITHRANDIR]

Staycation for us this year and the more of us the better, maybe the councils will realise the potential earnings from Motorhomes and caravans alike,that they will get there finger out there arses and provide facilities more in line with our European friends.

Nice thought, but they won't i'll wager.

 

[busby]

And potentially kill others while getting out and enjoying life
it is this selfish attitude that perpetuates this dreadful disease

We go out every day,,don't know how we could perpetuate the disease though,,nearest we get to anyone whilst walking in our local countryside (within 50 yds of our flat) is about ten yards..Hardly see a sole.....BUSBY.

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[MITHRANDIR]

We go out every day,,don't know how we could perpetuate the disease though,,nearest we get to anyone whilst walking in our local countryside (within 50 yds of our flat) is about ten yards..Hardly see a sole.....BUSBY.

wasn't directed at others just the poster who said horrible way to live, get out and enjoy life, sorry didn't mean to offend

 

[Larby]

I asked a French friend how things were.
She lives to the East of Toulouse.

Hello
The north of France is partially confined because the hospitals are saturated. Patients are transferred to Bordeaux, Toulouse...
For us everything is fine, xxxxxxx dad is vaccinated and my dad will finally start his vaccination next week. I have the impression that the vaccination is very badly organised in our country, there is a very long wait. Has your wife had her vaccination ? I hope that you are in good shape. At the moment the weather is really bad, it's cold and rainy. Will we ever see the end of the tunnel ! Big kisses to both of you

 

[ambulancekidd]

i fail to see how that puts either ourselves or others at risk at home or abroad.
Each has to weigh up the risks according to themselves.

The explanation is simple. Europe have deliberately dragged their feet where vaccination is concerned, they have ducked & dived & made up every excuse to avoid using a UK based vaccine.
Read the take up rate yourself & you'll clearly see that the virus is running amok in these countries.
Then read the UK vaccination take up rate, it speaks for itself.

Your totally correct in saying that the UK is no safer nor worse than any other country, but the virus can & will mutate if the bulk of a population of these countries avoid the vaccine, then the mutations risk our lives & economy again.

However, the UK has finally woken up to the risks which foreign travel causes & until these foreign countries get their act together, I'd ban travel to & from Europe for holidays & other unnecessary frivolous selfish reasons.
Even necessary travel needs careful testing for the foreseeable future.

The other thing that appears to be true is that quite a few forum members are taking an "I'm alright Jack" attitude to the risks.
Its the "oh I've had my life & I don't give a monkeys what dangers I bring back, just let the people who catch this because of me die, thats not my problem".
Now if thats not selfish dimwit thinking, I don't know what is?

 

[Larby]

 

[Lynne Roy]

We will definitely go abroad at the earliest opportunity, we will not pose any risk to anyone, we have our food delivered on arrival at home and do our quarantine, and have no contact with anyone. It is down to the individual to keep themselves safe, we always wear masks, gloves as well when refuelling, we stay away from everyone. It is personal choice, doing what you are comfortable with, and as long as you are happy to quarantine on return I cannot see a problem

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[MITHRANDIR]

Ambulancekidd I respectfully don't agree with some of your comments re travel, obviously travel to the eu at the moment with high infection rates wouldn't be wise, but once they fall, and they will, travel need not be unsafe, nor unnecessarily put others at risk upon return, it in my view is the behaviour of those travellers while away that is the risk, if they treat the pandemic as they responsibly should then the risk is IMO low, and need not create an alarmist position,
we are after all talking about a self contained holiday.Just how low does the infection rate have to be to be acceptable?
It is widely accepted that the virus can exist on objects for several days if not more, a lot of goods come in from the eu, a potential hazard, should we ban those as well for the foreseeable future?, if not why not?, it is also widely accepted that covid can be caught this way, or should we be sensible and just wash our hands thoroughly after touching?
Banning anything and everything is like trying to cure a headache by cutting off the head.
ask me if i would get on a plane and stay at a hotel? i would rather piss glass.
Motorhome travel is the safest form of travel there is,but not if the travellers behave in a manner which is not appropriate for the situation once at destination(s).
So in my view it's about how people behave not where they are.

 

[busby]

The explanation is simple. Europe have deliberately dragged their feet where vaccination is concerned, they have ducked & dived & made up every excuse to avoid using a UK based vaccine.
Read the take up rate yourself & you'll clearly see that the virus is running amok in these countries.
Then read the UK vaccination take up rate, it speaks for itself.

Your totally correct in saying that the UK is no safer nor worse than any other country, but the virus can & will mutate if the bulk of a population of these countries avoid the vaccine, then the mutations risk our lives & economy again.

However, the UK has finally woken up to the risks which foreign travel causes & until these foreign countries get their act together, I'd ban travel to & from Europe for holidays & other unnecessary frivolous selfish reasons.
Even necessary travel needs careful testing for the foreseeable future.

The other thing that appears to be true is that quite a few forum members are taking an "I'm alright Jack" attitude to the risks.
Its the "oh I've had my life & I don't give a monkeys what dangers I bring back, just let the people who catch this because of me die, thats not my problem".
Now if thats not selfish dimwit thinking, I don't know what is?

If you are HALF as carefully as i am regarding SD ,,mask wearing, hand washing,,,etc because I am paranoid you will have no chance of getting Covid. Cannot believe how many careless people I see when out walking,,but they don't realize how careless they are ..I travelled to Europe last year and felt safer than staying at home,,basically because we did not come into close contact with any one..This is very difficult to do in the overcrowded UK with all the idiots about who think it's all over..Iam all right Jack doing it my way..BUSBY.

 

[mitzimad]

Personally I can't see the attraction of going abroad when most things are closed we love europe and nothing better than sipping wine in a bar visiting attractions
Without that we will stay here where hopefully we will be reopening in June if not sooner
Yes sites are more expensive here but we often spend a large part of our budget on diesel and ferries so that will pay for a lot of nights
One fact to remember virus,s dont move people move them

 

[busby]

Personally I can't see the attraction of going abroad when most things are closed we love europe and nothing better than sipping wine in a bar visiting attractions
Without that we will stay here where hopefully we will be reopening in June if not sooner
Yes sites are more expensive here but we often spend a large part of our budget on diesel and ferries so that will pay for a lot of nights
One fact to remember virus,s dont move people move them

But bars are not closed in Spain,,SD on outside terraces,,Bar is always open in the sun outside my van,,BUSBY

 

[MITHRANDIR]

Personally I can't see the attraction of going abroad when most things are closed we love europe and nothing better than sipping wine in a bar visiting attractions
Without that we will stay here where hopefully we will be reopening in June if not sooner
Yes sites are more expensive here but we often spend a large part of our budget on diesel and ferries so that will pay for a lot of nights
One fact to remember virus,s dont move people move them

Do you think that the virus will be gone in the uk in june?

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[suavecarve]

Bars not open ?

They arent open at the moment. Ours arent either.
We are talking about going away after May 17th. Personally I wont be going til June 20th as I only get 3 weeks off in May and I wish to do it legally so the possibility of Q10 negates that for me as I have to be at work on 29th.
I get a month off in June, so i can make an adult decision to go, if Q10 is enforced then I can have 18 days of holiday and 10 in the back garden.

ambulancekidd if you think we have not done our research in order to come to an informed judgement, take a look at the amount of time I have put in monitoring figures, researching. "Stupid dimwit thinking" ? or perhaps in possession of more knowledge and making informed judgements, which dont happen to agree with yours.

The scientists have done quite a lot of research into this as well, and I follow the science. I am fairly certain our European cousins have some scientists who advise their Governments.

Perhaps you could let us in on the information you possess that would change the scientists mind and not advise these Governments to let us go. I think if they let us go, and they let us in, it must be safe for them to do so, and if its not, they close the border or put restrictions in like France in August last year.

The style of motorhoming we do, I am so much safer in France on holiday than the UK (when things are near equitable) you should be thanking us for going. I am keeping you safer by going. Pretty selfless i would suggest, but you have already made your mind up

Mine can be changed, go ahead without the rhetoric

 

[Chris]

Just to reinforce my feelings, I'm not aiming at anyone on this forum or those who love Europe.
My point is aimed at the usual football top wearing twats who say they love Spain etc but always seek out an English bar & eat steak pie n chips.

I don’t wear football tops, but I like the sound of that bar especially if they serve gravy with the steak pie and chips

 

[Parrot Face]

Too many people on here with Poundland crystal balls. Whats the famous Arabian saying...."Man plans. God laughs".

 

[gerry mcg]

An interesting / informative thread on the risks foreign travel represents at the moment.
We are not planning on overseas travel in 2021. It's called doing our bit.
My Sister in law and her family live in Fontainbleau, SE of Paris, and we have not been able to see them since the start of this, but we are having to wait

 

[dunnah01]

Well I'm more hopeful that we'll be able to sip champagne in Reims or Bordeaux in Bordeaux this year. The great UK experiment is now showing Europe that the vaccine appears to be safe and this will hopefully increase the uptake.
Europe seems to have managed the virus better than the England and have never let it get out of control. The English Christmas debacle let the virus run rampant in January so there was no choice but to start the vaccination process with the UK populace as guinea pigs. Europe didn't have the same problem so didn't have to go gung-ho with their citizens.
I'm certain that uptake of the vaccination in Europe will improve rapidly now that there is a realisation that the virus is not going away as quickly as hoped. The better the vaccine uptake the quicker we'll be able to visit these amazing countries.

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