Do you let your Dog run without a lead?

[Coolcats]

Think it's time badgers,fox's deer wild boar etc were put on leads,they all do more damage than dogs..BUSBY.

That's a Myth.

When nature and an environment is just left to itself balance happens, its dogs that need putting on a lead.

Here is an example no leads required and nature just balances itself

Wolves are causing a trophic cascade of ecological change, including helping to increase beaver populations and bring back aspen, and vegetation​

Around 400 years ago we had Beavers in Essex but typical humans hunted and trapped them, the great news is they are now back and helping the local enviroment.

Essex: Beavers released in Finchingfield to manage flooding​

 

[uzsnowdrop]

Here we go again

 

[busby]

That's a Myth.

When nature and an environment is just left to itself balance happens, its dogs that need putting on a lead.

Here is an example no leads required and nature just balances itself

Wolves are causing a trophic cascade of ecological change, including helping to increase beaver populations and bring back aspen, and vegetation​

Around 400 years ago we had Beavers in Essex but typical humans hunted and trapped them, the great news is they are now back and helping the local enviroment.

Essex: Beavers released in Finchingfield to manage flooding​

Thought that would raise a heckle or two, Tongue in cheek comment,,it is Motorhome Fun,,BUSBY

 

[Widge]

I've seen similar signs in the UK where footpaths cross fields with cows & their calves.


Here's a stat to chew the cud:
Between 2001 and 2021, the average number of dog-related deaths in England and Wales was 3.3 per year. 7 Feb 2023
According to the latest available figures from the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) 32 people were killed by cows between 2018 and 2022

Cows are not actively aggressive unless they feel threatened or protecting young, how many of those 32 people killed by cows were idiots not respecting that a cow is a large animal and not giving it the space that it requires, while calmly walking through the field, or even worse unlucky enough to be going through a field of cows previously spooked by some other inconsiderate person with or without an uncontrolled pet.

 

[Realist]

No, I’ve been a dog owner for many, many years and I’ve always when in public places had all my dogs on leads.

If in a private fenced area yes they are off lead but when walking no, it shows respects to other walkers and my dogs are always under control.

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[The Wino]

Was it actually directly outside your door so you couldn't exit without having to step over it or a distance away from it? Without knowing that it's impossible to say if she was being truly thoughtless or whether you just didn't want it placed there as it offended you.

If someone stuck something in MY bin without asking I'd be peed off, if she'd done this would you have been out and complaining about that?

Your bin, your choice.

A. Is wrong, but B isn't, we often do this on walks as we return the same way so collect it then and dispose of it.

I disagree I think it's wrong to hang poo bags up even if you are intending to pick it up on the way back people wouldn't do that with litter in general that's a lot less offensive. I don't see how it's hard to know that during a walk there will be poo produced and have bags and something to carry them in. I say this as a dog lover and previous ( hopefully soon again) owner. How is a member of the public to know that if they see someone hanging up poo bags they are intending to collect them especially given the number left hanging around. I think it's like litter anyone seen hanging a poo bag up or leaving poo unpicked should be prosecuted. If prosecuted three times they should be banned from owning dogs.

 

[Neilfg]

No, I’ve been a dog owner for many, many years and I’ve always when in public places had all my dogs on leads.

If in a private fenced area yes they are off lead but when walking no, it shows respects to other walkers and my dogs are always under control.

Completely agree

 

[Minxy]

I disagree I think it's wrong to hang poo bags up even if you are intending to pick it up on the way back people wouldn't do that with litter in general that's a lot less offensive.

Hold on there Musky, I never said I agreed with tree ornamentation, just that's possibly one if the reasons. I don't do it but will put it at the side out if the way to collect on my return, which I do

I don't see how it's hard to know that during a walk there will be poo produced and have bags and something to carry them in.

Which I often do, I have a karabiner on my shoulder bag and once I've tied the bag up (Tesco cheap nappy bags with little handles) I slip the handles over the karabiner.

I say this as a dog lover and previous ( hopefully soon again) owner. How is a member of the public to know that if they see someone hanging up poo bags they are intending to collect them especially given the number left hanging around.

I don't hang mine, they are out of the way if I decide to leave them to be collected later, not in full view of the general public, they'd be hard pushed to spot them instead of all the human rubbish is left (cans, packets and worse) ...

I think it's like litter anyone seen hanging a poo bag up or leaving poo unpicked should be prosecuted. If prosecuted three times they should be banned from owning dogs.

So those who do pick up the waste and leave it in bags for later so they can dispose of it are to be prosecuted. Are you gonna do DNA investigations to determine whose dog the non-collected poo came from? Plus the litter too? Fair's fair.

 

[Hirsch]

I never let our dog off the lead and don't let him stray away from me too far either. Always mindful of others out and about.

Do I get a badge or a star?

I generally find most people are selfish.

 

[Minxy]

Our dogs would go mental if they couldn't have a good run! Bella's going stir crazy at the mo as she's been spayed so having to be restrained at present, along with Minky to keep her company, as they tease each other. They make up for it at home though as we have a race circuit round our place, starting in the lounge, into the conservatory, the kitchen, hall and back into the lounge, all we see is two UFOs whizzing by!

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[The Wino]

Hold on there Musky, I never said I agreed with tree ornamentation, just that's possibly one if the reasons. I don't do it but will put it at the side out if the way to collect on my return, which I do


Which I often do, I have a karabiner on my shoulder bag and once I've tied the bag up (Tesco cheap nappy bags with little handles) I slip the handles over the karabiner.


I don't hang mine, they are out of the way if I decide to leave them to be collected later, not in full view of the general public, they'd be hard pushed to spot them instead of all the human rubbish is left (cans, packets and worse) ...


So those who do pick up the waste and leave it in bags for later so they can dispose of it are to be prosecuted. Are you gonna do DNA investigations to determine whose dog the non-collected poo came from? Plus the litter too? Fair's fair.

I agree with a lot of your points but do think that there should be DNA analysis of poo where necessary. There could be an option of either accepting the penalty or contesting it where the DNA sample cost is added to the guilty ones plus enough extra to pay for the unsuccessful ones.

 

[Minxy]

I agree with a lot of your points but do think that there should be DNA analysis of poo where necessary. There could be an option of either accepting the penalty or contesting it where the DNA sample cost is added to the guilty ones plus enough extra to pay for the unsuccessful ones.

Why not go on Dragons' Den with that as a business and see if it's a viable poopersition!

 

[The Wino]

Why not go on Dragons' Den with that as a business proposition and see if it's a viable poopersition!

I remember a pooper picker upper on dragons den years ago it got no interest.
I think dog owners are no different to motorhome owners most responsible and clear up after themselves others..........

 

[seasideBill]

Why not go on Dragons' Den with that as a business and see if it's a viable poopersition!

Could be a business with excremental growth potential!

 

[dulvil]

Going on about ground nesting birds being disturbed, Bet you didn’t worry about that when you bought your house on a new estate. Lots of nesting spots lost for ever

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[busby]

I agree with a lot of your points but do think that there should be DNA analysis of poo where necessary. There could be an option of either accepting the penalty or contesting it where the DNA sample cost is added to the guilty ones plus enough extra to pay for the unsuccessful ones.

You struggle to get Police interested it proper crime so would have no chance regarding dog poo.BUSBY.

 

[The Wino]

You struggle to get Police interested it proper crime so would have no chance regarding dog poo.BUSBY.

They're pretty interested in speed cameras because it's self funding. Do the same with dog wardens

 

[Brody]

Our dog runs free when in an open space and permitted to. If we were somewhere that clearly stated to be on a lead then he would be. I don't understand why some people think they are beyond the rules.

We also litter pick regularly on our usual route whilst dog walking which is on the TPT. Crisp packets, cans and bottles of pop. Energy drinks bottles, empty beer cans and sometimes Mcds or Costa packaging. Around the 5 November usually one or two carrier bags of spent fireworks and the packaging that goes with it.

Humans are the worst culprits and responsible for destroying/ruining most things.

 

[uzsnowdrop]

Bloody love a dog poo thread…

 

[Coolcats]

Going on about ground nesting birds being disturbed, Bet you didn’t worry about that when you bought your house on a new estate. Lots of nesting spots lost for ever

This is so true and very sad once the ground works start nature in that area is destroyed and building projects just seen to get bigger and bigger with little thought to the nature being evicted. On Saturday on a largish space I witnessed dogs running free, as they did so and running in an area where there was a flock of Corvids feeding their behaviour disturbed the flock which then had to flee their feeding spot, so what I hear people say yet over that same field were skylarks which are ground nesting birds, just because a dog does not come back with a bird in its mouth dose not mean it has not destroyed a nest.

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[ceejayt]

We put up with this in our garden - change of poo thread …

 

[bilM]

Some good things dogs do.

Dogs who save lives on Scotland's hills
They work in all weathers, day or night, using their acute sense of smell to find climbers and hillwalkers who are lost or in trouble. But what does it take to become a search and rescue dog? Two volunteers with the Search and Rescue Dogs Association Southern Scotland explain how they became involved and the very special relationship they have with their dogs.

What mountain dog saves lives?
St. Bernards have been directly responsible for saving over 2,000 lives in their namesake St. Bernard Pass in the Swiss Alps. Their broad chests that could work through deep snow, keen sense of smell, and uncanny ability to find people buried in avalanches made them the perfect breed for mountain rescue.

What dog has saved the most humans?
That's Barry, who lived in the St. Bernard Pass between 1800 to 1812. During his lifetime, he saved the lives of more than 40 people. He's memorialized at the Natural History Museum in Berne, Switzerland, where his body remains today. These are the smartest dogs, ranked by breed.

10 Heartwarming Stories About Dogs Saving Humans' Lives

From car accidents and house fires to near-drownings and overseas combat, countless humans owe their lives to the bravery and determination of their dogs, a neighbor's dog, or even a four-legged stranger.

www.goodgoodgood.co

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and the list goes on and on and on.

 

[uzsnowdrop]

We put up with this in our garden - change of poo thread …

Lucky you!

 

[Larrynwin]

We live on the coast with a popular dog walking prom and beach and there is frequent fouling where individuals let their dogs run loose and do not watch them the end result poo is not picked up, the other problem is loose dogs harassing seals which are occasionally on the beach.
Don’t you just love em

 

[ceejayt]

Lucky you!

Best played with sound on

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[Coolcats]

Some good things dogs do.

Dogs who save lives on Scotland's hills
They work in all weathers, day or night, using their acute sense of smell to find climbers and hillwalkers who are lost or in trouble. But what does it take to become a search and rescue dog? Two volunteers with the Search and Rescue Dogs Association Southern Scotland explain how they became involved and the very special relationship they have with their dogs.

What mountain dog saves lives?
St. Bernards have been directly responsible for saving over 2,000 lives in their namesake St. Bernard Pass in the Swiss Alps. Their broad chests that could work through deep snow, keen sense of smell, and uncanny ability to find people buried in avalanches made them the perfect breed for mountain rescue.

What dog has saved the most humans?
That's Barry, who lived in the St. Bernard Pass between 1800 to 1812. During his lifetime, he saved the lives of more than 40 people. He's memorialized at the Natural History Museum in Berne, Switzerland, where his body remains today. These are the smartest dogs, ranked by breed.

10 Heartwarming Stories About Dogs Saving Humans' Lives

From car accidents and house fires to near-drownings and overseas combat, countless humans owe their lives to the bravery and determination of their dogs, a neighbor's dog, or even a four-legged stranger.

www.goodgoodgood.co

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and the list goes on and on and on.

I don’t think anyone is saying dogs are ‘bad’ in this way it’s just put the little bahlambs on leads March to July to stop the carnage they can cause which is the context of the OP

 

[bilM]

on leads March to July to stop the carnage they can cause

What carnage do dogs cause March to July and not the rest of the year.

I also think cats should be on leads all year round if let out of the house.
The widespread and significant adverse impacts of domestic cats on native wildlife around the globe make them a quintessential and, indeed, one of the 'world's worst invasive alien species'.

 

[Widge]

Some good things dogs do.

Dogs who save lives on Scotland's hills
They work in all weathers, day or night, using their acute sense of smell to find climbers and hillwalkers who are lost or in trouble. But what does it take to become a search and rescue dog? Two volunteers with the Search and Rescue Dogs Association Southern Scotland explain how they became involved and the very special relationship they have with their dogs.

What mountain dog saves lives?
St. Bernards have been directly responsible for saving over 2,000 lives in their namesake St. Bernard Pass in the Swiss Alps. Their broad chests that could work through deep snow, keen sense of smell, and uncanny ability to find people buried in avalanches made them the perfect breed for mountain rescue.

What dog has saved the most humans?
That's Barry, who lived in the St. Bernard Pass between 1800 to 1812. During his lifetime, he saved the lives of more than 40 people. He's memorialized at the Natural History Museum in Berne, Switzerland, where his body remains today. These are the smartest dogs, ranked by breed.

10 Heartwarming Stories About Dogs Saving Humans' Lives

From car accidents and house fires to near-drownings and overseas combat, countless humans owe their lives to the bravery and determination of their dogs, a neighbor's dog, or even a four-legged stranger.

www.goodgoodgood.co

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and the list goes on and on and on.

Briliant, and they have all been professionaly trained.

 

[Coolcats]

What carnage do dogs cause March to July and not the rest of the year.

I also think cats should be on leads all year round if let out of the house.
The widespread and significant adverse impacts of domestic cats on native wildlife around the globe make them a quintessential and, indeed, one of the 'world's worst invasive alien species'.

Ah how about it being the breeding season when most carnage to wildlife can happen

Cats yes I agree they are a problem too, they can be little b'tards unless they have responsible owners who place bells on their collars and keep then fed, that is as much a must do as placing a Dog on a lead.

A little thought on behalf of responsible owners goes a long long way to help protect other species and applies to Dogs and Cats

RSPB Cat recommendations

 

[Reallyretired]

Although I have my dogs off leads whenever possible on a walk, if there is signage for ground nesting birds, sheep, or whatever, I will obviously comply with it. In Spain I have come across signs for nature reserves and obviously the same applies.
To tar all dog owners with the same brush is as illogical as suggesting because pickpockets are found in crowds everyone in a crowd should be arrested.
Bad dog owners are hopefully a minority, though I don't think the information is likely to exist. Certainly the dog owners I come across in the woods are mainly responsible, and there are very few people there without dogs apart from the odd mountain bikers at the weekends.

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