Do you let your Dog run without a lead?

[seasideBill]

Do you have the documented truth or are the figures just guess work.

Look it up, I did.

 

[seasideBill]

If she was traumatised by a three month old puppy playing, let’s be honest, life is going to be pretty difficult for her.

I thought that puppies were used in the treatment of people with ‘issues’ I know that the local hospital allows dogs in in certain circumstances and people with anxiety issues often have a doggy companion to help them get through the day

Also Chris they say laughter is the best medicine so you brought healing properties to the beach goers

I wonder why, when people are scared of dogs they try to insinuate that every action will affect everyone else, whereas it doesn’t seem too

Its a bit like a white person being offended on behalf of a black person, despite the black person saying he or she ‘isn’t offended’

We’re in danger of losing the plot. Ok it was a small dog, probably being playful. However, my point is about the attitude of folks who let dogs run wild, often but not exclusively on beaches, and seem oblivious to the effect they’re having on others. It happens here a lot. I take the young grandkids to the beach and dogs can be a menace. I don’t know if some of the bolder ones are dangerous or not, but the little one has grown to be terrified of dogs directly because of several incidents with out of control dogs and owners who think it’s all a huge joke!

 

[Coolcats]

So are you saying you wouldn’t have been bitten if the dog had been on a lead? Or do you think all dogs should be muzzled

As you were out in the Country with a group of people is that what they call ‘Dogging?”

Aw come on, it is Motorhome Fun after all

The owner was aware that this dog should be Muzzled in public and chose to take it off which is negligence as he was aware of the dogs demeanour, had he chosen to keep the dog on a lead then the dog would not have bitten me (it wasn't personal the F*****g dog would bite anyone), any dog that nips or bites should be Muzzled and in a group of relative strangers or in public should be kept on a lead. In this case we have an owner who neither placed a dog on a lead and took the muzzle off, the result... a punctured finger, imagine if that dog had done this to you or you child I suspect you would be pretty hacked off.

Here is a thought, some people don't understand when a dog is playing with a toy and shaking it vigorously that its the behaviour of a dog trying to break an another animal's neck, whilst we consider it as a dog 'enjoying themselves' (which they may) an issue is Anthropomorphism , people interpreting too much human traits on what is a domestic but essentially still wild animal, so that play in the dogs mind may be enjoyment and satisfaction of a 'kill' but not the joy we experience when happy, Dogs do not experience the world in the way humans do they mainly use smell to map out their world .

So bringing this back to where the thread started between March and the end of July keep the dog on a lead when out walking in the countryside it's a simple thing to do and helps to protect wildlife trying to breed.

 

[Coolcats]

We’re in danger of losing the plot. Ok it was a small dog, probably being playful. However, my point is about the attitude of folks who let dogs run wild, often but not exclusively on beaches, and seem oblivious to the effect they’re having on others. It happens here a lot. I take the young grandkids to the beach and dogs can be a menace. I don’t know if some of the bolder ones are dangerous or not, but the little one has grown to be terrified of dogs directly because of several incidents with out of control dogs and owners who think it’s all a huge joke!

Agreed was on Holkham Beach last month I would say 20% dogs were actually being controlled by their owners and well trained, 60% of owners had a modicum of control and the remaining 20% were totally barking mad and no control over them including the ones that ran in to the roped off area's people are asked to keep their dogs from.

 

[eddie]

One of my four Sons cannot travel in the back of a car as when he was little, we stupidly let his Nan drip in his ear on a fairly longish journey about ”probably feeling sick, and it’s 100% OK as she feels the same sat in the back of the car, it’s horrible in the back isn’t it?”

Presumably thinking we’d let her sit in the front next time, we simply didn’t bother to invite her!

I often saw people panicking when I’d walk past with two perfectly behaved German Shepherds on leads, two dogs who like me would not give the time of day to someone behaving needlessly neurotic simply because I was there. Sadly, those same panicky people were passing on their fear to their children, who will go on to panic when they see a dog.

I‘ve been hamstrung by disability scooters, far too big, far to fast and far to complicated for the users, snotty nosed toddlers have wiped their sticky hands all over me, I’ve trod in dog shit, been shat on by seagulls, been cut up when riding my bike, been crashed into when walking by cyclists, been chased by a Bull plus loads more

Its called real life, it happens

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[Widge]

So are you saying you wouldn’t have been bitten if the dog had been on a lead? Or do you think all dogs should be muzzled

As you were out in the Country with a group of people is that what they call ‘Dogging?”

Aw come on, it is Motorhome Fun after all

If the owner is using a muzzle logicaly it means that he already knows it has a problem, therefore it shouldn't have had its muzzle taken off in public.

 

[Coolcats]

One of my four Sons cannot travel in the back of a car as when he was little, we stupidly let his Nan drip in his ear on a fairly longish journey about ”probably feeling sick, and it’s 100% OK as she feels the same sat in the back of the car, it’s horrible in the back isn’t it?”

Presumably thinking we’d let her sit in the front next time, we simply didn’t bother to invite her!

I often saw people panicking when I’d walk past with two perfectly behaved German Shepherds on leads, two dogs who like me would not give the time of day to someone behaving needlessly neurotic simply because I was there. Sadly, those same panicky people were passing on their fear to their children, who will go on to panic when they see a dog.

I‘ve been hamstrung by disability scooters, far too big, far to fast and far to complicated for the users, snotty nosed toddlers have wiped their sticky hands all over me, I’ve trod in dog shit, been shat on by seagulls, been cut up when riding my bike, been crashed into when walking by cyclists, been chased by a Bull plus loads more

Its called real life, it happens

Totally agree real life happens to everyone, we all take risks, and as they say S**t happens, if I saw your two German Shepard's I would greet them and depending on their demeanour talk and stroke them, I am not anti Dog, I am pro responsible ownership.

 

[Coolcats]

If the owner is using a muzzle logicaly it means that he already knows it has a problem, therefore it shouldn't have had its muzzle taken off in public.

spot on

 

[tonyidle]

My dog likes all gods creatures
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Viszla? I have one who is exactly the same. He loves everything (including the vet).

 

[Spriddler]

If the owner is using a muzzle logicaly it means that he already knows it has a problem, therefore it shouldn't have had its muzzle taken off in public.

I bump into another dog walker occasionally whose soppy old elderly lump of a Labrador greets me in the High Street and the parks wearing a muzzle but not when I see him out in the open countryside. When I mentioned to the lady owner that he didn't seem to be at all dangerous to people she explained that she puts it on when he's around windfall apples (the more rotted they are the better he likes them), plus crisp packets, fag ends and chewing gum but they 'play havoc with his digestion'.

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[jezport]

We were in a park at a secluded area where people feed birds and squirrels.
Some dick head let his dog off the lead chasing all the birds and squirrels off.
I was having a bad day so called him out as a selfish cnut. I told him about the impact on the wildlife. He didn't give a sh@t . If I had been with my parrot I may have had to defend her from the dog, he wouldn't have liked that!

 

[Widge]

Totally agree real life happens to everyone, we all take risks, and as they say S**t happens, if I saw your two German Shepard's I would greet them and depending on their demeanour talk and stroke them, I am not anti Dog, I am pro responsible ownership.

My brother had a collie for a while, worked realy hard to train it, one of is biggest problems was other dog owners, slapping their thighs and encouraging the dog to jump up, when my brother tried to control it he always got its no problem I love dogs while still encouraging the dog.
When my brother insisted as not everyone likes a dog to jump up, he regualy had the other person saunter off while saying somthing under his breath along the lines of miserable b***trd, dosent deserve a dog.

 

[seasideBill]

Its called real life, it happens

It’s your life.

 

[eddie]

It’s your life.

Unlike some I'm perfectly happy living mine not complaining about the way others live theirs

 

[Minxy]

So bringing this back to where the thread started between March and the end of July keep the dog on a lead when out walking in the countryside it's a simple thing to do and helps to protect wildlife trying to breed.

Agreed, respect the surroundings and requests and no issues ... hopefully.

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[sylvester1954]

This seem controversial but, do you let your dog run free in the country side. When out walking we often see people do this and at times the owners seem to have little or no control. Have to say we do get a bit miffed when a loose muddy dog runs up and get covers our Clothes in mud (ooops sorry says the owner he is just excited to meet you.).

For those who just let dogs run wild here is an interesting article on why your Dog should be kept on a lead from the 1st March to the 31st of March to the end of July why your Dog should be kept on a lead as it’s carnage to wildlife not to do so. We can live with muddy trousers

No !! Dogs can still be unpredictable no matter how well trained certainly if they unintentionally flush out a wild game bird or squirrel..running blindly into the road or even off a cliff edge, frighten sheep etc . Don't be selfish just put them on a long lead.

 

[Minxy]

No !! Dogs can still be unpredictable no matter how well trained certainly if they unintentionally flush out a wild game bird or squirrel..running blindly into the road or even off a cliff edge, frighten sheep etc . Don't be selfish just put them on a long lead.

Why is it selfish to let dogs off their leads in suitable places? There's no way I'd keep my dogs on leads all the time.

 

[Phill D]

No !! Dogs can still be unpredictable no matter how well trained certainly if they unintentionally flush out a wild game bird or squirrel..running blindly into the road or even off a cliff edge, frighten sheep etc . Don't be selfish just put them on a long lead.

The original op although not positively presented was an attempt to make dog owners aware of ground nesting birds.

It has turned into a witch hunt of all dog’s behaviours and a general approach that the majority of dog owners are bad.

When that happens any benefit that might have come from highlighting a concern to dog owners about particular wild life is lost.
You simply alienate the owners.

 

[seasideBill]

Unlike some I'm perfectly happy living mine not complaining about the way others live theirs

Good for you. I prefer ‘commenting’ to ‘complaining’ - it’s dialogue and makes the world go around. However, some prefer to be closed and make judgments instead.

 

[eddie]

OK fair enough

Good for you. I prefer ‘commenting’ to ‘complaining’ - it’s dialogue and makes the world go around. However, some prefer to be closed and make judgments instead.

Thanks your condescension is palpable

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[eddie]

I think the fundamental problem is that the majority of dog owners are responsible

The majority of people that dislike dogs blame us all, citing the racist mantra "some of my friends are black" saying they don't mind dogs

 

[dunnah01]

I think the fundamental problem is that the majority of dog owners are responsible

The majority of people that dislike dogs blame us all, citing the racist mantra "some of my friends are black" saying they don't mind dogs

The fundamental problem is that dog owners don't get how much it affects non owners

 

[eddie]

The fundamental problem is that dog owners don't get how much it affects non owners

So?

Why should we?

I frankly don't care

 

[dunnah01]

So?

Why should we?

I frankly don't care

I know

 

[Chris]

Perhaps we need a “ My dogs harder than yours thread”

I won’t be entering the lab, he is a disgrace to hard dogs.

He bounds over to them , covers their owners with muddy paws, tries to steal any treats or loose balls and then legs it.

We are working on recall…

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[Silver-Fox]

He bounds over to them , covers their owners with muddy paws, tries to steal any treats or loose balls and then legs it.

We are working on recall…

Obviously the problem is you’re stuck isn’t big enough to beat him with

 

[eddie]

I also eat Peanuts, use animal fat when cooking and laugh at inappropriate things