I did consider that as many people leave their vans down there as it only costs 300 Euro a year, my issue is I don’t know how long the outlaws will live or continue to go, I have had a caravan before and have no desire to get another unless we left it down there.
We want the 1,000kg payload which you can’t get on a 3,500kg van but thanks for thinking about us and trying to be helpfulAny good????
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) IMO. The sealant and body trim is abysmal, again IMO. I wouldn't be happy with it. (was an easy fix).
I have a lovely Kontiki 645 I could upgrade payload wise but it’s Euro 3 so as we live in the LEZ are stuffed as it would need all sorts of filters on it once we go above 3,500kg
We want the 1,000kg payload which you can’t get on a 3,500kg van but thanks for thinking about us and trying to be helpful
I am waiting for 2 things, first and foremost feedback from my wife, what did she thing of all the good points, was the quality of everything else acceptable for our needs, bearing in mind we are cutting our cloth accordingly buying a lower class brand compared to some German brands.
Just found this video, it absolutely confirms what I have posted elsewhere on the forum when I looked at the showroom model of mine, watch the video and tell me if you think Swift are a pile of sh!te and I should go German? I am OCD and cannot imagine looking at any of that nonsense on my new van, where is the quality control, is it primary school kids that are let loose with a mastic gun, seriously that is some sloppy workmanship?British workers at their best, no wonder car manufacturing is going abroad, motorhomes next I guess!
Yes Jim mentioned that today and I did look, I towed a boat for many years and have an inherrent hate of the things as they need maintaining, storing and on some sites nowhere to put them, I also just checked and it would double my Eurotunnel fare both ways, not sure about the tolls heading to France but would restrict my speed, although would have the same issue going over 3,500kg. Not discounting it yet, I like things tidy and dragging stuff around is like having Satellite on your roof or TV's hanging off walls, not for me, but thanks
I'm not worried about the cash as we would intend to keep it long term, just getting the right van for our needs is key. As for renting, sorry not interested, too many things to go wrong on a motorhome and you don't know how they have been maintained, plus we need a big payload so hard to find.
Funny thing is I had no emotions at all when I paid the deposit, I'm afraid I can't get excited about objects whether cars, motorhomes or boats, as long as they are reliable and do the job they are required to do then that's fine by me, my wife is the same, she wasn't even interested in looking at it until I made her go today. One thing I don't like is sloppy workmanship, when I look at something a professional or expert was meant to have done and I know I could do better myself it just pisses me off, especially when I have paid big money for their services or the item.
I think I have answered your question, we have had our current motorhome for 9 years and has done just as you say, I take exception to calling me a drug dealer or dishonest politician though, perhaps aim that at those that have proper quality vans and not someone like me buying a Lada van as has been commented on, the price of our van is minuscule to what we saw in Germany, maybe you need to get out more!
Yes why spend all that money on a drive queen, the neighbours must really need impressing
Let's hope they dont know about Swifts QC as it will be wasted.
Sorry maybe I should be clearer, when I say I have OCD I mean I like things right, I like things in their places, I don't like wires hanging around or bodged jobs done, are you saying that what I showed is Ok and you would accept it? As for emotional attachment it is not my dream van if I could find one, I am compromising on quality not bodgy work so we can get what we can afford, that is what I am trying to say, maybe 2 days in Dusseldorf seeing what quality is really like was the wrong thing to do before buying the Swift.
I really don't get it ... if you are SO annoyed at the quality then why on earth did you agree to buy one in the first place, you saw the quality of the work and, regardless of what you were told by the dealer, there's no way it would ever match the more expensive ones you've looked at.
My Swift Kontiki 645 2004 has been a dream, never missed a beat in the 9yrs I have owned it and driven it to the South of France, I look at the interior and finish compared to todays offerings and it really shows how quality has diminished, its just the payload we now need for the grandkids that is forcing us to upgrade for more payload. I have searched for second hand vans with rear lounge and 1,000kg payload and found nothing!The vehicle has not been PDI'd yet.
Are the loose wires part of the original build or extras - camera, solar, to be covered
Personally I wouldn't pay £70k to use a van to take me to the South of France once a year.
In the past 8 years I've driven at least twice a year to Spain in either 2004 Burstner, a1991 Eriba or my 2001 Mobilvetta - Eriba cost £6k, other 2 less than £20k - no issues or breakdowns (touch wood) - leaving next week through France (for a change) Chris
...but each to their own...
No I don't think you should accept it, as I said earlier you should NOT buy it, it will never be right - I wouldn't accept it either.
As I and others have said perhaps getting a used better quality one that you will enjoy using and not be annoyed about is the way to go, I can't imaging staying in a MH that really p*ssed me off for weeks on end, it would seriously spoil my holiday.
I can’t wait to see the back of our HYMER ⚠☹If they are sending models to a prestige event with wires showing and other problems for the trade and world to see then what are they sending out to customers....
The continentals must be glad that swift go as they can show their potential customers what crap you can buy and you get what you pay for....
I would certainly see what continental van I could get and if not a new one £70k would buy a fantastic second hand one...??
