Unless converter, for some reason registered before conversion.. not likely I know, but would provide an answer
What does it say on your Certificate of Conformity?
Clearly Brownhills put the wrong category on 1st registration, but should not cause any problems going forward. But we are talking about DVLA.
None. It doesn't matter.
. I thought it’s got to be worth a try though.
Well… I’ve had a nice surprise this morning
We have a Consort Oslo which is a PVC based on a 6.36m Fiat Ducato which we’ve had since July this year. Its absolutely brilliant by the way!
A few weeks ago I changed our van with the DVLA from a Body Type of ‘Panel Van’ to ‘Motor Caravan’ by sending the DVLA a load of pictures as well as the original Converters brochure and was pleasantly surprised that it actually came back as a ‘Motor Caravan’ rather than a ‘van with windows’.
Then, I used SVTech to uprate it to 3900kg from its original 3500kg which was purely a paperwork exercise. They sent me an uprating certificate / Converters plate.
I then sent the various forms off to the DVLA including the tax change form to change from a Light Goods Vehicle to a Private Heavy Goods Vehicle.
From this thread and from what SVTech had told me, I wasn’t expecting this to happen but thought I’d seek forgiveness rather than permission
Well, this morning I got two envelopes through the post… the first returning the SVTech uprating form and including a letter saying that I should expect a refund in the next 4-6 weeks.
That got me excited…
The second envelope was the new V5 which now shows our van as a PHGV, a revenue weight of 3900kg and a Max. Permissible Mass of 3900kg.
So, for whatever reason, it looks like the DVLA has changed our details based on the old ‘rules’ and have ignored whatever has caused them to not do this change for others on this thread.
Don’t know if it’s just luck of the draw for who does the change at the DVLA or the order that I did things but I’m now happy that we’ll never be overweight (we are around 3750kg absolutely fully loaded) and we’ll pay less road tax. And… as it still looks like a Fiat Ducato I hope we still get Class 2 on the French toll roads!
Hope this helps anyone else who’s thinking of doing the same.
P.S. Just need some Angles Morte stickers now JIC
P.P.S. Anything else I need to think about for driving it now it’s a PHGV at 3900kg either in this country or abroad?
You mean, apart from having to pay extra on the ferry fare as it's now over 3500kgs?Well… I’ve had a nice surprise this morning
We have a Consort Oslo which is a PVC based on a 6.36m Fiat Ducato which we’ve had since July this year. Its absolutely brilliant by the way!
A few weeks ago I changed our van with the DVLA from a Body Type of ‘Panel Van’ to ‘Motor Caravan’ by sending the DVLA a load of pictures as well as the original Converters brochure and was pleasantly surprised that it actually came back as a ‘Motor Caravan’ rather than a ‘van with windows’.
Then, I used SVTech to uprate it to 3900kg from its original 3500kg which was purely a paperwork exercise. They sent me an uprating certificate / Converters plate.
I then sent the various forms off to the DVLA including the tax change form to change from a Light Goods Vehicle to a Private Heavy Goods Vehicle.
From this thread and from what SVTech had told me, I wasn’t expecting this to happen but thought I’d seek forgiveness rather than permission
Well, this morning I got two envelopes through the post… the first returning the SVTech uprating form and including a letter saying that I should expect a refund in the next 4-6 weeks.
That got me excited…
The second envelope was the new V5 which now shows our van as a PHGV, a revenue weight of 3900kg and a Max. Permissible Mass of 3900kg.
So, for whatever reason, it looks like the DVLA has changed our details based on the old ‘rules’ and have ignored whatever has caused them to not do this change for others on this thread.
Don’t know if it’s just luck of the draw for who does the change at the DVLA or the order that I did things but I’m now happy that we’ll never be overweight (we are around 3750kg absolutely fully loaded) and we’ll pay less road tax. And… as it still looks like a Fiat Ducato I hope we still get Class 2 on the French toll roads!
Hope this helps anyone else who’s thinking of doing the same.
P.S. Just need some Angles Morte stickers now JIC
P.P.S. Anything else I need to think about for driving it now it’s a PHGV at 3900kg either in this country or abroad?
Although it’s more expensive, we tend to use the tunnel so the increased weight shouldn’t affect us… although the bike rack on the back probably willYou mean, apart from having to pay extra on the ferry fare as it's now over 3500kgs?
Either way, it’s a result for you and hope for others.
You mean, apart from having to pay extra on the ferry fare as it's now over 3500kgs?
Very strangeEven stranger then given the DVLA recent insistence that N1 always remains N1 for RFL purposes! Maybe they’ve had a serious rethink - or had pressure applied ‘from above’?
Re. The toll tag. Just apply for the Fulli using a car registration if you don’t want to use the van, they switch it in the app and you’ll be Classe 2.
and travel slower on the motorways / dual carriageway abroadYou mean, apart from having to pay extra on the ferry fare as it's now over 3500kgs?
Here or abroad?… I thought that in the UK it’s the same speed limits as a car as it’s now classed as a Motor Caravan / used as a Motor Caravan.
Only if the unladen weight is 3050kg or less.
Lenny HB
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look at this, it explains further for abroad too
www.motorhomefun.co.uk
And sum pay nothing
You're fine for the UK at passenger car speeds.Lenny HB
The Mass is Service on the V5 is shown as 2235kg (as we know, unladen weights are seldom given) and the converter states 450kg as the payload so between these 2, I’m assuming that the unladen weight is 3050kg or less… even though I haven’t actually weighed it empty, I would doubt any Police will either (but I may be wrong
How would the authorities know that if it isn’t on the V5 and you have no CoC?
Not on the CoC either.
So how do they determine whether you can go car speed or truck speed??
Up to you to prove it.So how do they determine whether you can go car speed or truck speed??
Just checked my CoC for my Chausson so Trigano. The mass in running order weight is stated twice as Mass in Running order and actual mass of vehicle. When the vehicle was registered, the DVLA had the original CoC because it's been stamped on the day of registration. So perhaps some manufactures are more diligent that others regarding CoC paperwork. Also that figure is on the V5C.
But neither of those are the unladen weight.
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