Campsite Price Rises

£11.05 is the London Living not minimum
Yes Jim I knew that.:giggle: I was hoping for an explanation or clarification of the wording between minimum wage and the London living. (y)
 
I think anyone who compares motorhomes with hotel rooms should buy a caravan.
Or a third option of a small camper that will fit in a hotel car park then its the best of both worlds. Have the odd night in the van touring and the odd night in a hotel relaxing in comfort
 
EHU is to me a relatively modern facility.
First holiday I had was in 1955 at Beesands, Dorset; a week in a rented caravan in the rain. I don't think EHU was even available in those days and caravans weren't wired for mains electricity. 'Motorhomes' didn't exist. Everything ran off a large external Calor cylinder; even the lighting with fragile finely woven gas mantles. I fondly recall their warming yellow light, musty butane aroma, their soothing faint hiss and the patter of rain on the roof as I snuggled in my sleeping bag.
I loved every minute of it.
 
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Or a third option of a small camper that will fit in a hotel car park then its the best of both worlds. Have the odd night in the van touring and the odd night in a hotel relaxing in comfort
Done that occasionally. In some touristy places in Italy the cost of a double room + breakfast is about the same as a pitch in high season.
 
Done that occasionally. In some touristy places in Italy the cost of a double room + breakfast is about the same as a pitch in high season.
Also did that in Italy a few times. Fantastic village life staying in village hotels. Move on stay or move on again. Small van also lets you travel over the High ground without any stress.

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Knowing the Americans, they have hospitality off to a tee. Even the welcome and the have a nice day phrase are said to almost all customers in all industries.
Imagine that from some camp sites over here?
Some sites need to wake up and realise that they are in the hospitality sector and that the camper is the paying customer.
Once that is sorted, and the ‘some sites’ have got their act together, I think it would be slightly more palatable for campsites to start charging like a corporate hotel or airline already does over here.
I think that some places have already adopted an on demand tariff of charging. Prices at some UK sites were at a premium throughout Covid when travelling abroad was out of the question.
The problem for them is that Brits have long memories and will vote with their feet (or in this case, motorhome booking) and won’t return there in future.
 
Yes Jim I knew that.:giggle: I was hoping for an explanation or clarification of the wording between minimum wage and the London living. (y)
The living wage is an independently calculated wage required to live. There is a London version to cover the higher cost of living. It is not legally mandated.

The minimum wage is a legally mandated minimum under which is it illegal to pay anyone.

The government muddied the water by having in addition to the minimum wage, a national living wage which only applies to those 23 and over.

So you have
Minimum wage <23 (set by law)
National Living Wage >23 (set by law)
Living Wage (Set by independent body and voluntary) and now rebranded Real Living Wage

For the Real Living Wage see
 
I aim for an average of £13 a nigh max, and believe me there are hundreds still available with toilets, showers, etc.
As we have changed our holiday style we tend to go for rallies at £10 a night, Haven sites at £10 a night or remote CL's at the same or just above. Easy to squeeze these robbing sites out of business.
 
I aim for an average of £13 a nigh max, and believe me there are hundreds still available with toilets, showers, etc.
As we have changed our holiday style we tend to go for rallies at £10 a night, Haven sites at £10 a night or remote CL's at the same or just above. Easy to squeeze these robbing sites out of business.
Whilst we too like cheaper cls without frills I don't see those charging more as"robbing" it could just simply be a result of what people are prepared to pay and wanting a reasonable return unless you mean the pubs etc charging£50 or more for a basic grass pitch on some of the apps
 
I am wondering where we will draw the line at how much we are prepared to pay per nite. To date we have only gone to private fully serviced sites.

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I am wondering where we will draw the line at how much we are prepared to pay per nite. To date we have only gone to private fully serviced sites.
Everyone will be different. If we wanted to go to a particular area and that was all that was available it would make a big difference
 
I think people forget campsites are not just for motorhomes, to a certain extent particularly abroad, motorhomes can use places like aires and pub stops, caravans and tents have no choice but to use campsites, we have choice, they don’t. Prices are going up everywhere for everything, including hotels self catering places etc. Fact of life, and not just down to Covid either.
 
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We all have choices.......'should I stay or should I go'

If a site doesn't meet my requirements price wise or for any other reason then I will look elsewhere, if there is no alternative then sometimes it may be necessary to use a site that is not ideal.

In a free market economy prices will find a level, whether that is robbery or not is open to discussion that will inevitably lead to political argument so best left alone:Smile:
 
This is why I spend as much time and of course my money in Europe ,particularly France and Germany … 👍
 
The living wage is an independently calculated wage required to live. There is a London version to cover the higher cost of living. It is not legally mandated.

The minimum wage is a legally mandated minimum under which is it illegal to pay anyone.

The government muddied the water by having in addition to the minimum wage, a national living wage which only applies to those 23 and over.

So you have
Minimum wage <23 (set by law)
National Living Wage >23 (set by law)
Living Wage (Set by independent body and voluntary) and now rebranded Real Living Wage

For the Real Living Wage see
Thank you Gromett for this comprehensive explanation of facts. I now fully understand the process but still not sure I could manage on even the highest hourly rate. 😒

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We got to our destination yesterday a CS at £10.50 per night with EHU to be told that they’ve put the price up……….a massive 50p son now it’s £11. per night, disgusting!:LOL:
 
We’ve just returned from 70 days abroad. If we had stayed in the UK we would have saved about £1200 on unused diesel and ferries. So we could have spent almost £20 per night more than we did on campsites, aires etc. for the same overall outlay. Cost isn’t the issue for us, but weather, food, and different scenery is.

As it happens we spent one night in a CL for £15 plus electricity. We were charged £15.90. I rounded it up to £17 to buy some grass seed to cover the rut I made in the wet grass. The owner just laughed and said he was happy we didn’t get stuck :)
 
The owner just laughed and said he was happy we didn’t get stuck
I bet he was. pain in the butt when people get stuck :D Can very quickly degenerate into hours of work.
 
I aim for an average of £13 a nigh max, and believe me there are hundreds still available with toilets, showers, etc.
As we have changed our holiday style we tend to go for rallies at £10 a night, Haven sites at £10 a night or remote CL's at the same or just above. Easy to squeeze these robbing sites out of business.
@£10 you would get 1/2 of a large pizza 🍕 delivered to your door…..I noticed a flyer come through our door a pizza is is £20 and about £3 for extras so in context sites are not expensive.
 
America a beautiful country ruined by Americans
Such a stereotypical point of view.
My son lives in America, is married to a wonderful American girl. The Americans we know and meet are the most generous, helpful and friendly people. Do you actually know any Americans ? I doubt it by your attitude.

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We arrive at a CS yesterday and been informed the nightly price has gone up since I had booked an EHU hard standing pitch.


Its now £11 per night it was £10.50 when I booked, I nearly didn’t stay😉
PS Shrimp beat me too posting😊
 
We arrive at a CS yesterday and been informed the nightly price has gone up since I had booked an EHU hard standing pitch.


Its now £11 per night it was £10.50 when I booked, I nearly didn’t stay😉
Well done Nick you obviously don’t read my (your wife) posts!!!
 
EHU is to me a relatively modern facility.
First holiday I had was in 1955 at Beesands, Dorset; a week in a rented caravan in the rain. I don't think EHU was even available in those days and caravans weren't wired for mains electricity. 'Motorhomes' didn't exist. Everything ran off a large external Calor cylinder; even the lighting with fragile finely woven gas mantles. I fondly recall their warming yellow light, musty butane aroma, their soothing faint hiss and the patter of rain on the roof as I snuggled in my sleeping bag.
I loved every minute of it.
So do I but in the 1970s. Except that i now realise the relaxation of reading a book (no tv) and nodding off in the sleeping bag was probably caused by the oxygen being used up and the carbon monoxide produced by the gas lighting!

As to prices, isnt it down to a case of supply and demand. Just go where you feel thet you are getting value for your money, whatever money you feel you have.
Once met a couple sharing a part breakfast on the ferry to Dunkirk, and who were obsessed with the cost of everything and only felt happy when they saved money. Not sure if they enjoyed where they went but they probably just enjoyed not spending money there.
 
I am wondering where we will draw the line at how much we are prepared to pay per nite. To date we have only gone to private fully serviced sites.
On the way to cornwall on boxing day this year I will be in a layby for the first night 👍 the most I have paid for a site is £38 for one sunday night on an average site in the middle of nowhere but adjacent to a wedding venue, the venue charged 130 a night for a room and a taxi to nearest hotel was £35 return


Normally try to keep under £25 a night for a site pitch but it all depends where I need to be

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We arrive at a CS yesterday and been informed the nightly price has gone up since I had booked an EHU hard standing pitch.


Its now £11 per night it was £10.50 when I booked, I nearly didn’t stay😉
PS Shrimp beat me too posting😊
Try and keep up at the back please. :LOL::LOL:
 
Don’t buy the details regarding insurance etc. if the site has 50 pitches then surely they’re insured for 50 pitches. The fact that these are now being used, is exactly why they run a business in the first place. Only way I would have thought it would change, would be to increase the number of pitches.

Same with waste and hookups surely.

You own and run a campsite, is there a huge price increase as people are starting to use the facility 🤷🏼‍♂️

We have friends that run a campsite and their insurance has increased by 18% from 2020 to 2021. Yes I can agree with you quite a hike, the insurance company wanted more until they challenged them and they obtained quotes from others that were similar.

They also tell me that Biffa Waste have increased their prices for removing the rubbish from a commercial property and they are expecting an increase on the cost of emptying their septic tanks!

The fun and games of running a business!!
 
Just to add a little tale. When we got our latest MH we decided to test it out locally looking for those little niggles and what was required for the longer adventures. We booked a mentioned site fairly local to us (about 1 hour away) in Suffolk, Mel booked 4 nights, I paid on arrival, and was a bit shocked, £80 for the 4 nights, EACH? plus £1.75 for our Jack Russel per night, total for 4 nights £167, bit to rich for my blood so wont be going there again, and it was not that special either.
 

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