90 days or more in Europe

[Northernraider]

By the way it's alright for folk to say there's so much more out there than the eu countries if you have been lucky enough to already have explored them ....I haven't and there's many countries in the eu I'd like to explore and 90 days isn't long enough

 

[Jim]

Some of you have turned a very helpful thread into Brexit bickering. When I find the time I will delete those posts, please stay on topic discussing the practicalities of travelling in Europe post Brexit.

Meanwhile, if you want to discuss the rights and wrongs of Brexit do it somewhere else. Here will do . Go on....we won't miss you

 

[Northernraider]

I don't know how you did that but to alter someone else's post and then re post it as a quotation of the original is not good, even if you have highlighted the changes.

Who?

 

[2657]

Who?

I don't know how that happened either, I quoted the post by TheTwoOfUs but does not show the quote on my post........getting complicated now

 

[Northernraider]

I don't know how that happened either, I quoted the post by TheTwoOfUs but does not show the quote on my post........getting complicated now

Ah that explains it .....on my ignore list

Probably for similar

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[romany]

there have been times I wondered why I ever married a Spanish girl 40 years later it now makes sense, she kept her nationality so under eu spouse rules i am free LOL

 

[TheTwoOfUs]

Some of you have turned a very helpful thread into Brexit bickering. When I find the time I will delete those posts, please stay on topic discussing the practicalities of travelling in Europe post Brexit.

Meanwhile, if you want to discuss the rights and wrongs of Brexit do it somewhere else. Here will do . Go on....we won't miss you

Sorry Jim

 

[Northernraider]

Surely leaving the eu and brexit is the same thing

So I wouldn't say it was changing the subject at all.

The title after all was anyone planning to travel more than 90 days after we leave the eu.


Short answer then is you can't

At least not legally

 

[vwalan]

but you can ,just you cant in the eu.
you could drive to china , many do and many drive from china to the eu.
lots do tunisia, libya ,egypt.
catch a ferry from france to tunis and off you go.
best get visa before you go but you can get through with a bit of hassle .

 

[2657]

Some of you have turned a very helpful thread into Brexit bickering. When I find the time I will delete those posts, please stay on topic discussing the practicalities of travelling in Europe post Brexit.

Meanwhile, if you want to discuss the rights and wrongs of Brexit do it somewhere else. Here will do . Go on....we won't miss you

I do not see the need to delete my post pointing out someone else's misuse of the quote system, my post made no mention of any Brexit related issues!

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[tacr2man]

Seems one of my posts strayed over the line , as its gone , the only thing is don't know what i said wrong as there is no record of it

 

[Northernraider]

but you can ,just you cant in the eu.
you could drive to china , many do and many drive from china to the eu.
lots do tunisia, libya ,egypt.
catch a ferry from france to tunis and off you go.
best get visa before you go but you can get through with a bit of hassle .

But the question was specifically 90 days or more In Europe ?

 

[Northernraider]

Seems one of my posts strayed over the line , as its gone , the only thing is don't know what i said wrong as there is no record of it

Only 1 I've had about a dozen removed

I don't get the difference between " leaving Europe " and brexit

Means the same thing and that was the first post .

Anyone travelling in Europe for more than 90 days after we leave the eu.

 

[vwalan]

yes ok.
then you will have to get a visa .
what ever it takes thats the only way .
or might be.
at the moment we dont know if we are leaving.
if not then just carry on as we have been doing.

 

[Northernraider]

Anyone planning to go to Europe for more than 90 days after we leave the EU?

That was the first post by the op ^^^^

Therefore I'm confused as to why any posts have been deleted.

Leaving the eu is brexit and therefore all valid points.

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[bigtwin]

Seems one of my posts strayed over the line , as its gone , the only thing is don't know what i said wrong as there is no record of it

One of mine too, apparently, and I never get involved in the B****t topic so mystified!

Perhaps mine was quoted in a contentious post and I was notified as a result of that post being deleted?

Ian

 

[Jim]

That was the first post by the op ^^^^

Therefore I'm confused as to why any posts have been deleted.

Leaving the eu is brexit and therefore all valid points.

Confused between discussing the practicalities and bickering about why someone voted to remain or leave. One is on topic the other is not. Simple really

 

[Skez]

Meanwhile, if you want to discuss the rights and wrongs of Brexit do it somewhere else. Here will do . Go on....we won't miss you

Like a fool I followed the link to see what was there! Traumatised!!

 

[Jim]

Like a fool I followed the link to see what was there! Traumatised!!

I held my breath when i went there to get the link

 

[Glas Robin]

Gosh, a long thread.

So in summary:

1) As EU nationals, we can currently travel freely and unlimited in time throughout the EU (and the Shengen part of it) but if we stay more than 90 days in one country we should register with the local authorities. Rules vary from country to country, but registration at least is necessary.

2) This is not really enforced at present for EU nationals, but the technology exists to secure the Schengen border, and is used to monitor nationals from third countries at present.

2) After our Exit (and depending upon what type of Exit we agree/don't agree) then UK nationals will treated as "third country" nationals and be restricted to a maximum stay of a cumulative 90 days in any 180 day rolling period within the Schengen zone.

3) UK nationals will need a Schengen visa to visit the zone. This can be single, dual or multi-trip visas for periods of upto 5 years validity. The Schengen zone is smaller than the EU, as some EU nations didn't sign up to Schengen. They will have their own visa/stay rules, separate to Schengen.

4) To comply with the 90 days in a rolling 180 days will require UK nationals to leave the Schengen zone for the other 90 days in the rolling 180 if they want to remain legal.

5) Schengen countries are likely to enforce this more robustly in future.

6) There are lots of nice countries outside of Schegen to fill our time when we can;t be inside the zone - including the UK.

7) No one agrees on Brexit. (NB This is not news).

Did I miss anything?

Personally I am a little disappointed with the 90 in 180 day restrictions - as we are planning lots of longer trips in the medium-term. However, I think we can find plenty of stuff to do outside of the zone as well - North Africa, Balkans, further east, etc.

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[Skez]

Gosh, a long thread.

So in summary:

Sums it up nicely for me! Disappointed - but will have to roll with it!

 

[Northernraider]

Confused between discussing the practicalities and bickering about why someone voted to remain or leave. One is on topic the other is not. Simple really

I think it's on topic if someone votes to leave but wants to spend more than 90 days in Europe whether it's legal or not.


There is no practicalities the question was answered on the first page. After brexit you can't stay for more than 90 days.

 

[Glas Robin]

Sums it up nicely for me! Disappointed - but will have to roll with it!

Part of my professional life involves dissecting complex contentious things like EU Exit prep for the NHS - so I kind of went into work-overdrive and summarised it all for everyone!

Hope it was helpful.

 

[Jim]

I think it's on topic if someone votes to leave but wants to spend more than 90 days in Europe whether it's legal or not.


There is no practicalities the question was answered on the first page. After brexit you can't stay for more than 90 days.

Brexit is a toxic discussion, people fall out over it, families fall out over it. We didn't bring people together here so they can fall out. Brexit bitching is everywhere, on every medium, we don't need it here.

Meanwhile, The Practicalities of what Brexit means in the short term for European travel is still being discussed in this thread. Brexit bitching and finger-pointing isn't.

 

[jumartoo]

Gosh, a long thread.

So in summary:

1) As EU nationals, we can currently travel freely and unlimited in time throughout the EU (and the Shengen part of it) but if we stay more than 90 days in one country we should register with the local authorities. Rules vary from country to country, but registration at least is necessary.

2) This is not really enforced at present for EU nationals, but the technology exists to secure the Schengen border, and is used to monitor nationals from third countries at present.

2) After our Exit (and depending upon what type of Exit we agree/don't agree) then UK nationals will treated as "third country" nationals and be restricted to a maximum stay of a cumulative 90 days in any 180 day rolling period within the Schengen zone.

3) UK nationals will need a Schengen visa to visit the zone. This can be single, dual or multi-trip visas for periods of upto 5 years validity. The Schengen zone is smaller than the EU, as some EU nations didn't sign up to Schengen. They will have their own visa/stay rules, separate to Schengen.

4) To comply with the 90 days in a rolling 180 days will require UK nationals to leave the Schengen zone for the other 90 days in the rolling 180 if they want to remain legal.

5) Schengen countries are likely to enforce this more robustly in future.

6) There are lots of nice countries outside of Schegen to fill our time when we can;t be inside the zone - including the UK.

7) No one agrees on Brexit. (NB This is not news).

Did I miss anything?

Personally I am a little disappointed with the 90 in 180 day restrictions - as we are planning lots of longer trips in the medium-term. However, I think we can find plenty of stuff to do outside of the zone as well - North Africa, Balkans, further east, etc.

Excellent. Except at the moment the agreement is that UK nationals won't need a Visa to visit Shengen, just adhere the 90 days in 180 rolling. (Provided that's reciprocated).

That may, of course, change.

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[carolyn]

Sorry Jim, I was a bit quick to react. Didn’t think I was commenting on the B.. malarkey more on the fact that I didn’t like the idea of people changing other people’s posts and making it look like they’d said something else, perhaps I shouldn’t have watched Ian Hislop and his fake news program last night. It was good though. Apologies again.

 

[Deneb]

Personally I thought it was all quite good natured, but it seems I've been sent to the naughty corner twice. Sorry

 

[gus-lopez]

Gosh, a long thread.

So in summary:

1) As EU nationals, we can currently travel freely and unlimited in time throughout the EU (and the Shengen part of it) but if we stay more than 90 days in one country we should register with the local authorities. Rules vary from country to country, but registration at least is necessary.

2) This is not really enforced at present for EU nationals, but the technology exists to secure the Schengen border, and is used to monitor nationals from third countries at present.

2) After our Exit (and depending upon what type of Exit we agree/don't agree) then UK nationals will treated as "third country" nationals and be restricted to a maximum stay of a cumulative 90 days in any 180 day rolling period within the Schengen zone.

3) UK nationals will need a Schengen visa to visit the zone. This can be single, dual or multi-trip visas for periods of upto 5 years validity. The Schengen zone is smaller than the EU, as some EU nations didn't sign up to Schengen. They will have their own visa/stay rules, separate to Schengen.

4) To comply with the 90 days in a rolling 180 days will require UK nationals to leave the Schengen zone for the other 90 days in the rolling 180 if they want to remain legal.

5) Schengen countries are likely to enforce this more robustly in future.

6) There are lots of nice countries outside of Schegen to fill our time when we can;t be inside the zone - including the UK.

7) No one agrees on Brexit. (NB This is not news).

Did I miss anything?

Personally I am a little disappointed with the 90 in 180 day restrictions - as we are planning lots of longer trips in the medium-term. However, I think we can find plenty of stuff to do outside of the zone as well - North Africa, Balkans, further east, etc.

Excellent

 

[romany]

Gosh, a long thread.

So in summary:

1) As EU nationals, we can currently travel freely and unlimited in time throughout the EU (and the Shengen part of it) but if we stay more than 90 days in one country we should register with the local authorities. Rules vary from country to country, but registration at least is necessary.

2) This is not really enforced at present for EU nationals, but the technology exists to secure the Schengen border, and is used to monitor nationals from third countries at present.

2) After our Exit (and depending upon what type of Exit we agree/don't agree) then UK nationals will treated as "third country" nationals and be restricted to a maximum stay of a cumulative 90 days in any 180 day rolling period within the Schengen zone.

3) UK nationals will need a Schengen visa to visit the zone. This can be single, dual or multi-trip visas for periods of upto 5 years validity. The Schengen zone is smaller than the EU, as some EU nations didn't sign up to Schengen. They will have their own visa/stay rules, separate to Schengen.

4) To comply with the 90 days in a rolling 180 days will require UK nationals to leave the Schengen zone for the other 90 days in the rolling 180 if they want to remain legal.

5) Schengen countries are likely to enforce this more robustly in future.

6) There are lots of nice countries outside of Schegen to fill our time when we can;t be inside the zone - including the UK.

7) No one agrees on Brexit. (NB This is not news).

Did I miss anything?

Personally I am a little disappointed with the 90 in 180 day restrictions - as we are planning lots of longer trips in the medium-term. However, I think we can find plenty of stuff to do outside of the zone as well - North Africa, Balkans, further east, etc.

You missed the bit that singles could marry someone in the EU then no probs

or
find a distant Irish relative and apply for your Irish pass port

 

[nicholsong]

There is a solution for those British with UK passports, or entitled to them.

That is to apply for Residence of a Schengen country. The 90 in 180 day rule would still apply to visits to other Schengen countries, as it does to all Schengen Residents as at present, but would not apply in the chosen country of Residence.

As a UK passport holder one can return to UK for as long as ne wishes.

It would require you to give an address in the chosen country, but I am sure that many have relatives and friends who would be co-operative, although some countries have more stringent requirements than others.

I am in the process of doing that because my OH and I want to stay in Poland long-term.

There could be taxation implications, but if one is taxed in UK and there is a double-taxation agreement in place the effect could be nil. Advice needs to be taken - not just from me. In my case the Polish tax people could demand no more than I pay in UK.

Geoff

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