Because you have specified your proposed date of entry as 1/6/20 and the rolling 180 period is being calculated backwards from that date. For each day that you spend in the zone from 1/6/20 the start of your rolling 180 day period will also advance by one day, so any days in the zone at the start date will effectively drop off at the same time as your current stay advances. Days spent in the zone more than 180 days prior to 1/6/20 won't count on your proposed date of entry and days spent in the zone immediately after the start of the initial rolling 180 day period will drop off as your rolling 180 days moves forward.
90 days or more in Europe
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Because you have specified your proposed date of entry as 1/6/20 and the rolling 180 period is being calculated backwards from that date. For each day that you spend in the zone from 1/6/20 the start of your rolling 180 day period will also advance by one day, so any days in the zone at the start date will effectively drop off at the same time as your current stay advances. Days spent in the zone more than 180 days prior to 1/6/20 won't count on your proposed date of entry and days spent in the zone immediately after the start of the initial rolling 180 day period will drop off as your rolling 180 days moves forward.
I am in Portugal and I'm staying here until someone literally picks me up and takes me somewhere else...
JJ
Me too!
Currently I'm compiling a list of all foreign MHs which are identical to mine. I shall then get some false plates made up to replace my UK ones.
When we go to Morocco in January I'm buying a couple of false passports and I'll re-enter as a Belgian, or possibly a German. Enjoy my time over here and if I need medical attention I'll simply rock up with my false identity and pay for any treatment which I need.
IF I ever want to return to that cold grey isolated island to the north of France then I'll simply return to Morocco and re-emerge with my UK persona. Needless to say the MH will have been SORNed and I'll not be wasting money insuring it, as I've never had an accident yet.
Plenty of Brits wandered all over Europe during WWII without any problems using a little bit of deceit; if they can do it so can we all.
"Herman the German/Belgian"
PS What a load of tosh: not one word of truth in any of that, but perhaps some folk might think it's a reasonable attitude!
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I hope that you realise you have, judging from your post above, all the necessary requirements to join the current Blighty government right away!
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We are either net contributors or we are not, If we get back more than we give why are they so concerned about us leaving.
I dont see it will fundamentally change the way I travel in the EU , other than I will just have to watch the amount of time I spend in a rolling 180 day period . It will just mean that I will spend more time outside the EU . I will still have to abide by all traffic legislation , have valid insurance , arrange breakdown cover , etc just as I had to before the EU existed .
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Been on the calculator, thanks for the link.
We will not be able to do the same 2 trips next year that have done this year, just does not work.
Grr
We will not be able to do the same 2 trips next year that have done this year, just does not work.
Grr
Not my understanding, which is that citizens of EU member states have unlimited freedom of travel within the zone, but if they spend more than 90 days in any single country other than their own, they are supposed to make the authorities aware of their presence.
That is a substantially different matter to only being allowed to be inside the entire zone for 90 days in any rolling 180 day period.
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They get a visa time limit stamped in there passports. Friends of ours he arrived & got a 12 month stamp. Fiancée arrived a month later & got 2 years. & able to work also. He was ok though as he had Brit grand parents & obtained right to reside during the first 12 months.
It is exit on one & enter on another. 90 days for each.
Yes but as I posted last night the third world period is 90 in a 180 ROLLING period whereas the EU is 90 days in 180 per CALENDAR year. & per country. As long as you only do 89 consecutive days in France you can then move on to Germany for anotehr 89 ,then spain , then....................
& that is how it was desigended to work,The rich support the poorer countries in monetary & job creation ways. A bit like we devolved all the good jobs away from London & the south-east to give work in other areas of the UK.
Exactly
** I know of 2 or 3 brits on spanish forums that due to brexit have now taken up the offers of irish parent/grandparent & one woman who has both + a Polish one via here husband. in on one out on another ,out of spain into France on a 3rd .all legal. None of the passports all legally held have to tie up in any way with each other.
Another Brit who lives in the canaries applied for spanish nationality. On receipt he also had to have a "spanish name" so now he has 2 legal passports in 2 legal names.
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The issue is they won't detain you if you overstay or physically repatriate you, just that at some time in the future you will be refused entry, that could be at Calais, the Croatian or Moroccan borderetc, so you aren't able to overstay again.
Since we became members if I recall correctly we have paid in more each year than we were given back. Doesn't that make us a net contributor. According to all the info I can find it appears so. Thats me finished on the subject I just hope Boris can get us out by the 31st if so I will be celebrating that night to some tune.
Enjoy your celebrations.
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But the issue is will they accept their responsibility for making those cock ups or will it just degenerate into it being everybody else's fault but never theirs's.
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I started this thread can’t believe some of the reply’s. I’ve decided I’m going in Jan for 90 days exactly!
Our outward ferry is Dec 27 and coming back was April 6, decided to go onto the Brittany Ferry’s website and amend the return journey to be less than 90 days. Changed it to March 23 but no problem in changing it again to April or even May if we are able to exceed the 90 days.
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In an attempt to get this thread back to the original question but also answer some questions for me personally as to how people "work".
Please put aside the cost and benefit (whatever your views) analysis of being in the EU, just sticking to the 90 day question. If the Schengen Visa system is imposed on us, will it impact on you folk still in favour of Brexit or do you not have the opportunity or desire to travel for long periods of time? Or it will but you are happy to take the chance that it won't be enforced as they need our tourism pound. Or any other view related to JUST the restrictive travelling arrangements post Brexit.
Please put aside the cost and benefit (whatever your views) analysis of being in the EU, just sticking to the 90 day question. If the Schengen Visa system is imposed on us, will it impact on you folk still in favour of Brexit or do you not have the opportunity or desire to travel for long periods of time? Or it will but you are happy to take the chance that it won't be enforced as they need our tourism pound. Or any other view related to JUST the restrictive travelling arrangements post Brexit.
Can I ask you . are we ok to travel to Morocco and stay say for a mouth and then go back in to Spain and finish what is left of our 90 days . We have never been to Morocco or Spain in our van before so can you tell us the place to go in Morocco please . I ask you because you are my inspiration on travel. John .
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Not only can you, but you'll have to. That 90 days starts when you enter the Schengen area - it includes travel to and from Spain.
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vwalan
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as already said yes i say 44 days spain or eu then 90 days morocco then make up the 90 days in eu just so you can be away 180 days .
as for morocco its take your pic , med coast is nice and the atlantic is nice . could say it gets nicer as you get further down.
inland can be snow as you are or could be very high up.
the desert side is great , like really being on an adventure .
ideally travel in a small group. there are many desert tracks to take most hard ground but a bit rough. avoid the soft ones .
if i was only going to morocco for a month i would probably head to rabat and hug the coast down to el jadida or possibly only to casablanca, some great surfing places in that area.
mind doing the med coast is great out of ceuta head for martil ,tetouan then again hug the coast . take every track etc to the sea come back inland via chefchaouen . nice and steady ideal a months slow drive. nice villages and folk along the way lots places to stop a night or so.
i say forget the so called well known places , bit like in spain its full of others so isnt an adventure.
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Oh and travel insurance is going to cost more
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I'm sure your right. The UK institutions will increase prices whenever they can, leave or stay, prices will no doubt increase.
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thats if you ever bothered to get any .
never mind lets hope the ferry to morocco starts up soon after we leave the eu.
tarfaya here we come.
never mind lets hope the ferry to morocco starts up soon after we leave the eu.
tarfaya here we come.
Of course it will cost more. Insurers will have to take on risks currently covered by EHIC.
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There is more to see than just Europe (EU) , 90 days is plenty of transit time , going east or south , from my pov Europe as it is now is becoming so "samey" compared with the differences of even a few decades back, and a lot of that is the effect of EU policy , debatably good or bad. By and away the 90 in 180 will affect very few, any way. I don't even think it will increase the numbers of MoHo owners to be more adventurous , in any measurable way. One of my uncles used to drive his kontiki to Riccioni every year , then he stopped driving a MoHo and flew to Tenerife every year and stay 2 months. I will stick by the rules , as penalties dont help anyone . It will be for the various countries in the EU to come to a conclusion about financial impact of tourists not spending the money they do now on longterm travel, or residence being limited by the 90 day rule .
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Why not do 90 days in Shengen then 90 in morroco then another 90 in Shengen?
vwalan
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because many just want to winter in warmer climates .
plus its best to stay in uk for more days than abroad so you can prove uk residency.
mind should the ferry from uk to morocco start then we can forget the eu totally.
just do morocco and drive down to senegal or gambia . all good adventures .
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Sod that I personally want to be out the damp miserable UK as much as I can
Even more so when it becomes the dictatorship with rations on fresh fruit and vegetables lol
vwalan
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fruit and veg as been imported into uk for decades most not coming from the eu.
you dont have to come back . why dont you get residancy in a country you like.
africa and india has alot more to offer us than the eu.
i used to think my parents would end up living abroad , they didnt .
i thought i might, but have now realized i like uk , its nice to go away ,but nice to return to the green green grass of home.
its nice to compare good places there or here . different but all beautiful in their different ways
you dont have to come back . why dont you get residancy in a country you like.
africa and india has alot more to offer us than the eu.
i used to think my parents would end up living abroad , they didnt .
i thought i might, but have now realized i like uk , its nice to go away ,but nice to return to the green green grass of home.
its nice to compare good places there or here . different but all beautiful in their different ways
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