Tam &Toby do Europe ...Take two

[Northernraider]

Anyway completely forgot about clocks going forward etc so I was parked up in the centre of town and out for a walk about just after 8.30 lol

Didn't think much of the old town it's very run down and lots of homeless lying in doorways...lots of rubbish about etc not nice to walk through...But I pictured the nicest bits.

There was a market at one point had a look but didn't buy anything.

I was surprised how many shops are open today it being Sunday....lots of weird and wonderful food stuffs.

Walked up to the palace only to be met with lots of no dogs signs so couldn't go in and outside wasn't pretty

I'll probably head back to the beach to park tonight so I'm not far from euromaster to try and get alignment done tomorrow but then I'll have to find somewhere more interesting not far away to visit for a couple of days till Thursday cause it's a bit dull around here

 

[Northernraider]

I learned this at primary school and I still remember the words nearly 40 years later lol

Its stuck in my head and jade can almost sing it.




I've decided to download a few series of allo allo to help me learn as that English guy who pretended to be a policeman had it near perfect

 

[Anthea M]

Anyway completely forgot about clocks going forward etc so I was parked up in the centre of town and out for a walk about just after 8.30 lol

Didn't think much of the old town it's very run down and lots of homeless lying in doorways...lots of rubbish about etc not nice to walk through...But I pictured the nicest bits.

There was a market at one point had a look but didn't buy anything.

I was surprised how many shops are open today it being Sunday....lots of weird and wonderful food stuffs.

Walked up to the palace only to be met with lots of no dogs signs so couldn't go in and outside wasn't pretty

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I'll probably head back to the beach to park tonight so I'm not far from euromaster to try and get alignment done tomorrow but then I'll have to find somewhere more interesting not far away to visit for a couple of days till Thursday cause it's a bit dull around here

Good luck with it all Tam .
I love you photos but over the months realise there never seems many people in them! Is that deliberate or you pick your times when all are asleep or eating?!

 

[Langtoftlad]

You can "train" Google Assistant to better understand your voice...





...but as you've found with Jade, training does have it's limits .

 

[Val 3 dogs]

Oh dear Tam, it must have been a real comedy show, but I guess not for you. You would have found it really frustrating, I understand that.
I don't notice your accent, but that's probably having lived in Scotlandfor the last 20 years.
My ex (and Highlander) always maintained he didn't have an accent, but I had to translate everything he said to my Welsh friends.
In the early days between his accent, colloquialisms and the odd Gaelic word slung in conversations could be very strange and easily misunderstood,but the worst Scots accent i find is the Dorric.

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[Northernraider]

Good luck with it all Tam .
I love you photos but over the months realise there never seems many people in them! Is that deliberate or you pick your times when all are asleep or eating?!

I think it's just timing and also still out of season I guess.

Some places in Spain it was quite busy

But at 8.30 on a Sunday morning this area was very quiet ha ha

The bits where there were people you don't want to see believe me ....It was a struggle to avoid the rotten fruit , dog poo, rubbish etc all around.

 

[Anthea M]

I think it's just timing and also still out of season I guess.

Some places in Spain it was quite busy

But at 8.30 on a Sunday morning this area was very quiet ha ha

The bits where there were people you don't want to see believe me ....It was a struggle to avoid the rotten fruit , dog poo, rubbish etc all around.

It’s a shame because most places seem are clean and tidy

 

[Northernraider]

Oh dear Tam, it must have been a real comedy show, but I guess not for you. You would have found it really frustrating, I understand that.
I don't notice your accent, but that's probably having lived in Scotlandfor the last 20 years.
My ex (and Highlander) always maintained he didn't have an accent, but I had to translate everything he said to my Welsh friends.
In the early days between his accent, colloquialisms and the odd Gaelic word slung in conversations could be very strange and easily misunderstood,but the worst Scots accent i find is the Dorric.

I deliberately time my accent down when talking to folk i dont know or not from where I live because I'm aware when talking to locals I do have a strong accent but it still doesn't help I guess lol.

But I can mimic nearly every Scottish region accent as I have friends back home from all of them.

I also do a mean Geordie one ha ha

 

[Manic]

That's Michelin camping tyres for you , I hate them lol

Leaking struts won’t help tyre wear, so maybe get them done soon to save the new tyres

 

[Northernraider]

It’s a shame because most places seem are clean and tidy

Yeah I've been surprised at a few places just how dirty and unloved they have been. And at some of the buildings folk are living In

Maybe I've just been spoiled at home because even the very worst run down areas around where I live have been nothing like some of the places I've seen in cities in France and Spain.

There's beautiful parts but some very run down parts. I was surprised at the amount of homeless in doorways in this town there. It was pretty bad

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[Northernraider]

Leaking struts won’t help tyre wear, so maybe get them done soon to save the new tyres

It's only the one side that's leaking and yes I don't think it will help but the tyres are definately worn due to the tracking being way too much toe out.

If I can find somewhere to get the struts done here that isn't going to cost 2 or 3 times what I can get it done at home for I will but if not I'll wait till home as it certainly isn't noticeable on the driving or handling.

Only noticed it when @gus-lopez And I were doing the alternator.

 

[Fenman]

The bits where there were people you don't want to see believe me ....It was a struggle to avoid the rotten fruit , dog poo, rubbish etc all around.

For my part I'd like to see photos that include that part of a place. It's how it really is otherwise then everywhere just looks pretty. But that's just me.

 

[chaser]

Yeah I've been surprised at a few places just how dirty and unloved they have been. And at some of the buildings folk are living In

Maybe I've just been spoiled at home because even the very worst run down areas around where I live have been nothing like some of the places I've seen in cities in France and Spain.

There's beautiful parts but some very run down parts. I was surprised at the amount of homeless in doorways in this town there. It was pretty bad

Yeah but what is this actual town , if looked back but cant find a name.

 

[Northernraider]

For my part I'd like to see photos that include that part of a place. It's how it really is otherwise then everywhere just looks pretty. But that's just me.

I dunno I just felt awkward taking pics of folk lying in the street etc

 

[Northernraider]

Yeah but what is this actual town , if looked back but cant find a name.

I bet your teacher was always telling you off for not paying attention in class chaser

I'm in perpignan I've been here since Friday and need to stay till Thursday till my tyres are fitted .

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[chaser]

I bet your teacher was always telling you off for not paying attention in class chaser

I'm in perpignan I've been here since Friday and need to stay till Thursday till my tyres are fitted .

Sorry to be thick but I have just looked back through 2 pages and cant find any mention of perpignan , one minute you are in Spain, next in France.

 

[Feltwell]

Accents don't help either

I work for a French company, so I'm in Paris fairly frequently. Even with my fairly neutral, faintly Northern English accent, the French really struggle to understand my spoken French. I think I must have "Rosbif" tattooed on me though - the number of times the French will look at me and just immediately speak in English!

I can never understand why anyone struggles to understand a Scottish accent, with the honourable exception of the East End of Glasgow. Many years ago I worked in Grangemouth - truly the loveliest town in Scotland (!) - and the truck drivers that came in were mostly from the East side of Glasgow. I really couldn't understand anything most of them said except "Big Mon" at the end of a sentence, a lot of smiling and nodding went on! Turns out I wasn't the only one - the Scottish lads in the yard couldn't understand most of them either, and we really weren't that far away. But I remember going up to Aberdeen one day, and the folks in the office warning me that I'd never understand the locals, but it was crystal clear as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Northernraider]

Sorry to be thick but I have just looked back through 2 pages and cant find any mention of perpignan , one minute you are in Spain, next in France.

Cause I've been here since Friday and that's about 5 pages ago.

What can I say it's a fast moving thread lol

 

[Val 3 dogs]

I was never there, but back in '86 I was around Montcuq and Cahors and one of my lasting memories was the street cleaners out at 5 am and everywhere spotless.
My other memories include wonderful and copious cheap wine and an introduction to Pernod, some of which I brought back to Wales with me, but somehow it wasn't the same sat alone in a drafty caravan during a cold and wet Welsh winter.

 

[Northernraider]

I work for a French company, so I'm in Paris fairly frequently. Even with my fairly neutral, faintly Northern English accent, the French really struggle to understand my spoken French. I think I must have "Rosbif" tattooed on me though - the number of times the French will look at me and just immediately speak in English!

I can never understand why anyone struggles to understand a Scottish accent, with the honourable exception of the East End of Glasgow. Many years ago I worked in Grangemouth - truly the loveliest town in Scotland (!) - and the truck drivers that came in were mostly from the East side of Glasgow. I really couldn't understand anything most of them said except "Big Mon" at the end of a sentence, a lot of smiling and nodding went on! Turns out I wasn't the only one - the Scottish lads in the yard couldn't understand most of them either, and we really weren't that far away. But I remember going up to Aberdeen one day, and the folks in the office warning me that I'd never understand the locals, but it was crystal clear as far as I'm concerned.

Aye it really depends on the area ....I've a lot of weedgie ( glaswegian) friends ,a few from Ayrshire, a dundonian , one from forres ( sounds like hector brocklebank) so I'm not bad at doing all there accents.
But most of the folk from the main cities Glasgow Aberdeen etc don't speak the right common rough accent ...they tone it down.
But the slang is what catches folk out.


But I can't physically get my tongue to roll In the way needed to speak French like the French do.

I had difficulty with Spanish that way too ...I can laugh in French though haw haw haw

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[Northernraider]

I was never there, but back in '86 I was around Montcuq and Cahors and one of my lasting memories was the street cleaners out at 5 am and everywhere spotless.
My other memories include wonderful and copious cheap wine and an introduction to Pernod, some of which I brought back to Wales with me, but somehow it wasn't the same sat alone in a drafty caravan during a cold and wet Welsh winter.

Aye well that's it I mean you can see from the pics i posted that bit is clean and looks like it's been swept etc this morning ....But wander 2 streets away and it's a very different story
Its just hard to see I guess and the people are probably good as gold bit you just get that feeling your a stranger in the camp there and I dunno but even at 6'4 I wouldn't want to walk round those bits in the dark.

 

[Val 3 dogs]

Hmm, not so good, but also shows how the world has changed and a lot of it not for the better.
Having said that I've always been happy to go anywhere in the countryside at any time of day or night, not so the towns.

 

[Baileysbus]

Aye it really depends on the area ....I've a lot of weedgie ( glaswegian) friends ,a few from Ayrshire, a dundonian , one from forres ( sounds like hector brocklebank) so I'm not bad at doing all there accents.
But most of the folk from the main cities Glasgow Aberdeen etc don't speak the right common rough accent ...they tone it down.
But the slang is what catches folk out.


But I can't physically get my tongue to roll In the way needed to speak French like the French do.

I had difficulty with Spanish that way too ...I can laugh in French though haw haw haw

Ah hector brocklebank ..... hilarious

 

[nicholsong]

I work for a French company, so I'm in Paris fairly frequently. Even with my fairly neutral, faintly Northern English accent, the French really struggle to understand my spoken French. I think I must have "Rosbif" tattooed on me though - the number of times the French will look at me and just immediately speak in English!

Reminds me of a meeting in Paris.

We handled Aviation Insurance claims worldwide and I had invited our senior guy from our Montreal office to meet French Underwriters.

My French is not good but I can understand most of it, so I started the meeting in French and although I knew the French guy can speak perfect English the two of them continued in French. I could understand the Underwriter but our guy's Quebecois accent floored me. I am not sure the Frenchman understood all but was just to polite to say.

I also have trouble with some Americans' accents, but some is syntax problems - but not Canadians.

Geoff

 

[gus-lopez]

an introduction to Pernod,

I think wherever you are it takes them by surprise when you are not speaking as a local would & then they completely miss what you are saying & you get the ¿que? ¿como? as though they haven't understood when in fact they have completely missed it.
Places I frequent I don't have a problem as they have attuned there ear to the mispronunced , mangled & butchered spanish I speak

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[Northernraider]

Ah hector brocklebank ..... hilarious

Aye he's brilliant ...I can do a good mimic

 

[Northernraider]

I think wherever you are it takes them by surprise when you are not speaking as a local would & then they completely miss what you are saying & you get the ¿que? ¿como? as though they haven't understood when in fact they have completely missed it.
Places I frequent I don't have a problem as they have attuned there ear to the mispronunced , mangled & butchered spanish I speak

Your Spanish is very good I've witnessed it and was impressed ....you even have that sounding half drunk accent to it

 

[monzer]

Talking of dialects, accents etc I thought I could leave this here in case anyone wants some practice if they are up my way doing the NE250.....

 

[Northernraider]

Talking of dialects, accents etc I thought I could leave this here in case anyone wants some practice if they are up my way doing the NE250.....

Ha ha whaur dae ye fund thon aboot

 

[Northernraider]

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