Tam n pups winter trip 2022

[Northernraider]

Then I apoligise as I mis-explained it. users will still see actual threads started by users that 2-way ignore them. However, only their first post will show, then no other posts.

an example why. Someone who ignores 20 people might start an interesting thread, and then never post on it again, it might go on to have 50 posters posting good info into that thread and those 20 people ignored by the op would not see anything of it. That’s not on, just because you block somoone doesnt give you the right to have them ignored by everyone else.

They aren't ignored by everyone else . No one else is ignoring them they would still see their comments elsewhere and be able to interact with them.

But their opinions and comments are not wanted on my thread that's why I have them ignored.

I started this thread in September yet they are commenting on it in December... how is thar possible if they only see the first post?

 

[Jim]

They aren't ignored by everyone else . No one else is ignoring them they would still see their comments elsewhere and be able to interact with them.

But their opinions and comments are not wanted on my thread that's why I have them ignored.

I started this thread in September yet they are commenting on it in December... how is thar possible if they only see the first post?

People you ignore can see this thread, but cannot see anything you post in it.

 

[CazPaul]

They aren't ignored by everyone else . No one else is ignoring them they would still see their comments elsewhere and be able to interact with them.

But their opinions and comments are not wanted on my thread that's why I have them ignored.

I started this thread in September yet they are commenting on it in December... how is thar possible if they only see the first post?

So they can only see your first post then and no more posts by you in your thread, but they can see everyone else’s posts in your thread by members who have not ignored them.
So they are commenting just on the posts they can see.

 

[Northernraider]

People you ignore can see this thread, but cannot see anything you post in it.

That's just nuts.

So they come on a travel thread they can't see any of the pics or details , but can discuss amongst themselves the fact that I have them ignored but for incorrect reasons , which of course can't see to respond to or correct until someone else makes me aware of it?

I can't understand how anyone is expected to feel comfortable with that .

It's creepy as anything Jim.

 

[bigtwin]

So they can only see your first post then and no more posts by you in your thread, but they can see everyone else’s posts in your thread by members who have not ignored them.

And presumably any of Tam’s posts that are quoted by others?

Ian

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[CazPaul]

And presumably any of Tam’s posts that are quoted by others?

Ian

Ah, I never thought of that, would that quote just come up as a blank page though? As Tam has them on ignore?

 

[Northernraider]

And presumably any of Tam’s posts that are quoted by others?

Ian

Yep

The whole thing has me creeped out .


I'm going to bed , I've had enough but ill be seriously thinking on whether I want to continue this thread or not .

I think the fact anyone would want to follow a thread where they can't actually see any of the good stuff only goes to show my ignoring in the first place was justified because that's some questionable behaviour right there.


That system is flawed .

 

[Jim]

And presumably any of Tam’s posts that are quoted by others?

Ian

No, apart from that first post, if Tam has them on ignore they will not see any of his content, even if someone else quotes it.

 

[bigtwin]

Ah, I never thought of that, would that quote just come up as a blank page though? As Tam has them on ignore?

Not sure but on another forum I’m on blocked members can see posts from the blocker if someone quotes them.

Ian

 

[Jim]

Not sure but on another forum I’m on blocked members can see posts from the blocker if someone quotes them.

Ian

No other forum has a double ignore like this one. No other forum can hide an ignored persons post or post fragments that are in quoted text. We can.

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[Langtoftlad]

I hope Tam Northernraider doesn't give up posting because I enjoy following his lifestyle etc.
I sort of see both sides - it's odd that 'ignored' members can read and post on a thread and possibly drag a thread off course when the OP won't be able to see what they're doing, yet frustratingly see those invisible posts referred to.
I also see Jim point that any thread might include valuable & interesting content which Funsters might want to read.
But perhaps there's an argument, on rare occasions to have ignored funsters actually blocked from seeing a thread - maybe after a request to Jim by the OP.

As Tam well knows, access to certain sub-forums can be blocked. Can't even see what threads are being posted. Perhaps this could also be applied to specific threads if ignorees are seen to try to take a thread off course...

 

[Mikey RV]

Tam don’t give up the posting and forum just because of someone you don’t like. You are better than that. There will always be keyboard warriors on forums which everyone soon susses them out. It’s a shame you can’t just report a bad posting and Jim delete that posting from the thread.

 

[monzer]

It seems 2 of them are genuinely following the thread even though one of them does regularly mention he's on ignore.

However the third guy does just seem to hang around the thread with the intention to hopefully wind up Tam. That's not right in my opinion.

 

[CazPaul]

It seems 2 of them are genuinely following the thread even though one of them does regularly mention he's on ignore.

However the third guy does just seem to hang around the thread with the intention to hopefully wind up Tam. That's not right in my opinion.

How can those 2 though be genuinely following the thread when they can’t see the vast majority of it, about 80% of the content, information/photos is from Tam and they can’t see any of it.

 

[monzer]

How can those 2 though be genuinely following the thread when they can’t see the vast majority of it, about 80% of the content, information/photos is from Tam and they can’t see any of it.

True. That's a good point actually.

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[scotzsue]

Northernraider Tam, don't give up, then they will have achieved their objective, many people love this thread, the dogs, the photos and the travel and van fettling information.
Can understand you feeling like it is stalking it is a bit creepy, but are these people even worth you thinking about?

 

[StephandJohn]

Tam. Please don't go, I know how frustrated you feel by the situation but you going would mean that they've won. We all know that on any forum there will be the twisted ones who enjoy creating trouble.
On a personal note; your posts have kept us going since covid. First we couldn't get travelling due to covid and now for health reasons. You go to places we've been and loved or places we want to go to. We'd miss you, the dogs. Jackie, news about your mum and the motorhome projects you take on.
Never seen anyone with xmas baubles in their beard anywhere either.

 

[Lenny HB]

Such a waste of Red Wine....Tinto de Verano (Summer wine) is made from a cheap plonk....with Gaseosa blanco or lemon...it's a summer drink...quite nice during the hot Spanish summer.....served over ice..

Poor young Tam doesn't appear to understand that late December in the Northern Hemisphere is the middle of Winter.

 

[1967bowesj]

I have been on many forums on various subjects over the years and almost all of them have had issues like this.
From Jim side he wants to keep the supply of informative threads going to keep the forum popular
From Northernraider side he doesn’t want the people he ignores stirring up or commenting on these threads after they have obviously.been asked to moderate their actions in the past.
I have witnessed and been caught up in this before and I can tell you it really does get to some people when “members” do not abide by the being nice to each other rule.
Some people just go through life with a mission to annoy, some don’t want the hassle so they use the ignore button.
As for the useful information, this will still be visible if you do a Google search you don’t need to be logged in to the forum to see it.
I think the quote Langtoftlad made above has got some credibility Jim if these members are repeatedly falling foul and abusing or whatever on threads by the same member then maybe they should be positioned in a sin bin time out.

I hope Tam Northernraider doesn't give up posting because I enjoy following his lifestyle etc.
I sort of see both sides - it's odd that 'ignored' members can read and post on a thread and possibly drag a thread off course when the OP won't be able to see what they're doing, yet frustratingly see those invisible posts referred to.
I also see Jim point that any thread might include valuable & interesting content which Funsters might want to read.
But perhaps there's an argument, on rare occasions to have ignored funsters actually blocked from seeing a thread - maybe after a request to Jim by the OP.

As Tam well knows, access to certain sub-forums can be blocked. Can't even see what threads are being posted. Perhaps this could also be applied to specific threads if ignorees are seen to try to take a thread off course...

Right, soft rant over………Time to go test the van.
Fill water test for leaks, apply new weight plate.

jb

 

[Jim]

If someone annoys Tam enough for him to ignore them that fine; thats what we built the system for. Tam will not see what that person posts ever again. Also Tam can choose double ignore, which means the person he ignores will not see anything Tam posts again. Thats it.

But just because someone falls out with someone, you cannot deny them whole swathes of the forum.

Example, someone has you on ignore, Lets say that person, much earlier than when you were ignored, started a great thread about touring Morocco, which lots of other people contribute to, that thread would disapear for you. As would any useful threads in the future.

You would be denied seeing all the information that others contribute, just because someone got annoyed at you late one night and put you on ignore. That's not right.

Making mention of the ignore function just causes division, and is banned here. Do it and you can be banned. He blocks me, I ignore him, thats for the playground and has no place here.

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[Langtoftlad]

...or the OP simply decides not to post an interesting thread, which is interesting to the many who can 'behave', on the platform because of one or two disrupters?
Surely, the author of a thread should have some limited control, especially on a specifically focused topic?

 

[Jim]

I think the quote @Langtoftlad made above has got some credibility @Jim if these members are repeatedly falling foul and abusing or whatever on threads by the same member then maybe they should be positioned in a sin bin time out.

There is a report button under each post. If someone is not breaking the rules but they are making a nuisance and ruining the vibe of the thread then report them and if that's the case I can thread ban them. Some will recall that this is exactly what happened on a Lenny HB thread a few months ago.

 

[Jim]

...or the OP simply decides not to post an interesting thread, which is interesting to the many who can 'behave', on the platform because of one or two disrupters?
Surely, the author of a thread should have some limited control, especially on a specifically focused topic?

See my post above. And I've not seen any abuse or serious disruption, can you report the offending posts and I'll take a look.

 

[Onemanandhisdog]

Well that wasn't what I was expecting! I agree it's weird to be watching something you are not particularly welcome at and can't see the majority of, and when you look at it like that it does seem like stalking.

I hope you carry on Tam, I can't be arsed with other social media sites.

 

[jumar]

Poor young Tam doesn't appear to understand that late December in the Northern Hemisphere is the middle of Winter.

Yes but coming from Scotland as he does, he most likely regards Spain as Southern Hemisphere..
Well that puts me firmly on the naughty step for a while...

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[Jim]

if these members are repeatedly falling foul and abusing

Abuse keeps being mentioned, but I’m not seeing any abuse at all, let alone repeatedly. Can someone point me to the abuse in this thread? Thanks.

 

[Feltwell]

Nah just like looking at different vans lol. That IH is rather smart

IH's are lovely but unless you enjoy stooping all the vans based on an H2 Ducato won't have enough headroom for you. I'm about 6'2" and I find them too low to be comfortable.

I went to the NEC show not long ago, really liked the IH vans and it was noticeable that ones based on the VW Crafter / MAN TGE (same van) had just a bit more headroom than ones based on a Sprinter or a Ducato.

All I need now is £100k for the van & spec I'd like

The build quality on the IH vans was very good. Don't like the weird entrance door module thing instead of a woosh-bang slidey door, but that's just personal preference.

Forget anything Transit based unless it's on an Extra high top - I got in a couple of conversions based on the medium roof, way way too low, far worse than a Ducato.

 

[Wingingit#1]

Its a crafter for me next time i think .

 

[jumartoo]

I've been watching the development of the last posts with jealousy interest.

Doing a thread like Tam does takes time and effort, (and money!). I love this type of thread and have done a few travel threads of my own, but I stopped due to lack of intercour... comments.

I do feel for someone who isn't happy with how people, negatively, comment on what he's posting.

Please don't stop, Tam

 

[Carol]

Northernraider Tam your one of my favourite go to threads please don't stop, for those of us that aren't able to travel as much as we used to it's like a extra tour of places we have been.
I have no idea why those on ignore are being pains In The A### though I think one genuinely enjoys your thread.
Sending hugs to you and your pup's .

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