Tam and Toby ~~ Hunting Zorba .....Take two.

Yes it's a difficult one, but sometimes we/they need to do difficult things. I don't know if they would be allowed to share a kennel, if so I would do that and give them a couple of dirty tshirts/sweaters of yours to snuggle in.
I would make sure they had a good feed several hours (4 or 5 hrs.) before embarking and encourage them to have a poo abd pee stop as bear embarkation as possible by giving them some exercise/playing ball etc.
Once on board i would install them in their kennel, stay with them as long as possible, then assuming the kennels are provided with water I would leave and not go near again until disembarkation.
Neither they nor you will enjoy it, but they will survive and be overjoyed to see you again. Once back together tgey will not bare a grudge and won't think about it again unless and ubtil a repeat situation should arise.
Ill have to ask about petcabins first as that doesn't sound fun for them or me.
They arent used to that ....theyve been pampered i suppose but i dont mind spoiling them
 
Tam, splash out on a pet cabin. I've only ever put my (previous) dogs in a kennel on board once and they were very unhappy and had messed their bedding so much it had to be thrown away. Since then we've always had a pet cabin. It will also mean that you have a relaxing night without having to worry about them and hopefully a good sleep to prepare you for your long drives over the next days. I prefer Anek/Superfast to Minoan as they seem more dog friendly, also they seem to have their pet cabins near to a door out to the deck which Minoan don't seem to have thought about. Good luck with everything.
 
Tam, I have similar setup in my Hymer, twin solar mppt, twin gels etc. Test them with a load and they come out to about 90% of original capacity, so not too bad.
In the real world I get similar results as you where they drop off quickly in circumstances where you wouldn't expect them to 🤷‍♂️
I've no idea either.
 
Heatings on but its pants when youve to choose between heating or tv ....my batteries cant cope with both it seems ☹️. This time next year ill be sat cosy as anything with my logburner going

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Tam, I have similar setup in my Hymer, twin solar mppt, twin gels etc. Test them with a load and they come out to about 90% of original capacity, so not too bad.
In the real world I get similar results as you where they drop off quickly in circumstances where you wouldn't expect them to 🤷‍♂️
I've no idea either.
Mine are lead acid though which from my limited electrical knowledge i think if they reach 12v or less its damaging them.

I dont think im even a heavy user and for 200ah they are pants .

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Bloody cold again this morning but we are up fed and ready to hit the road back to peloponnese.

Toby looks like Hannibal lectar

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On another note ....that vario bus with 729000 km sold for just over £2100

The panel van with low miles but lots of rust didnt sell ....thats the 3rd time its been listed at same price ....guys a dreamer with that price for a 20 year old van
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Think i got the best of the bunch really ...but not a lot of choice in the uk
 
Morning Tam. It seems Bulgaria is now at the kind of temperatures I expected in previous posts on your thread. Bloody freezing. The reason I made that point was because I once went skiing there and we flew into Sofia airport. It was artic. -10C.

It seems the Balkan countries have this delayed winter as an Easterly airflow develops which outguns the Atlantic/Mediterranean mild air. If you head for the Black Sea coast it will be even colder.

Perhaps western Greece will be a bit warmer but compare and contrast with Spain

 
Morning Tam. It seems Bulgaria is now at the kind of temperatures I expected in previous posts on your thread. Bloody freezing. The reason I made that point was because I once went skiing there and we flew into Sofia airport. It was artic. -10C.

It seems the Balkan countries have this delayed winter as an Easterly airflow develops which outguns the Atlantic/Mediterranean mild air. If you head for the Black Sea coast it will be even colder.

Perhaps western Greece will be a bit warmer but compare and contrast with Spain

Not as bad down south though
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I want to go through germany rather than france ....dont like France and i want to sort doggy passports in germany.
“After God created France with its mountains and sea and food and wine and sunshine he thought it was the most beautiful country in the world. People were going to get jealous, so to make things fair he decided to create the French and put them in it”

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Just checked my battery voltage on panel this morning so theyve been resting through the night with nothing switched on 12v on the nail yet the panel reads 96% 🤷🏻‍♂️ i thought 12v was discharged.

That was approximately 3.5 hours of heating on last night and 2 led lights ...nowt else and they were reading 12.8v when i parked up.

Never had them lower than 75% on the panel but the voltage goes below 12v quite often.
I dont get the panel's connection between volts and percentage.
12v offload is 25% SOC.
I think one or both your batteries are goosed Tam, When you were at my place last September one of your solar regs was poking out over 16v if it had been doing that for any length of time the battery will be :swear2: . Problem with batteries you don't know how well they are going to perform until you really need then.
Can't remember where your batteries are I think they are in an outside locked so if they are starting to get weak with the weather you have had the last few days the capacity will be greatly reduced.

Even with everything on I doubt if you are using much more than 35-40a/h a day so without any charge going in you should be able to last 3 days.

As for the panel readings getting the percentage right is a black art and I wouldn't take too much notice of it, I know you fitted a new panel but it will only be as good as the info sent to it from the EBL.
I would also check the voltage on the batteries with your multimeter.

On our ill fated trip to Germany in October where we spent 14 days off grid my Victron battery monitor was showing 40% in real life the batteries were down to to 20%.
Two weeks of playing around with the settings it is now accurate, you can't do that with yours.
 
Ill have to ask about petcabins first as that doesn't sound fun for them or me.
They arent used to that ....theyve been pampered i suppose but i dont mind spoiling them
I fully agree, if pet friendly cabins are available thats definitely the way to go for all your sakes but if not..... I've told you what I believe to be the least stressful way (for the dogs) of handling the alternative.
As for this morning's family of dogs- it is difficult to tell from the photo's and their fluffed up coats what sort of condition they are in- undoubtedly many dogs have a very hard life - but often so do their owners.
 
12v offload is 25% SOC.
I think one or both your batteries are goosed Tam, When you were at my place last September one of your solar regs was poking out over 16v if it had been doing that for any length of time the battery will be :swear2: . Problem with batteries you don't know how well they are going to perform until you really need then.
Can't remember where your batteries are I think they are in an outside locked so if they are starting to get weak with the weather you have had the last few days the capacity will be greatly reduced.

Even with everything on I doubt if you are using much more than 35-40a/h a day so without any charge going in you should be able to last 3 days.

As for the panel readings getting the percentage right is a black art and I wouldn't take too much notice of it, I know you fitted a new panel but it will only be as good as the info sent to it from the EBL.
I would also check the voltage on the batteries with your multimeter.

On our ill fated trip to Germany in October where we spent 14 days off grid my Victron battery monitor was showing 40% in real life the batteries were down to to 20%.
Two weeks of playing around with the settings it is now accurate, you can't do that with yours.
Getting worried about my Banners now 😥 . Vans been sitting unused for two months in Peloponnese. Got stuck in England waiting for Jab ! Wish I was as old as Lenny HB as I would have had it by now. Will my Banners be OK for another month ? Got solar and a bit of sun I presume over that time although Northernraider would know more about the amount of sun there. Up the mountain a bit so reckon 10 degrees average.

Also, MOT runs out in March...does anyone know if I am a still insured in any way if I drive it back MOT’less. I seem to remember you can drive a un MoT’d vehicle direct to MOT station .....does than include directly across Europe ☹️
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Ferry to Ancona ....then drive to Aosta through Aosta Vally...6/7 hours..through Mont Blanc Tunnel than dash through France to Channel Tunnel 10 Hours
I remember back in yhe early 80's we took the horse to an Endurance competition outside Rome.
We travelled across France and through the Mont Blanc tunnel.
We were required to stop at a lairage in Aosta to "rest" the horse for 10 hours. I think all animals entering the country had a compulsory stop at the lairage.
There were no stables or livestock penning available, we let the ramp down and unloaded the horse to stretch his legs and walk about a few times during the ten hours, otherwise he had to stand in tbe lorry in blistering heat.
Soon after we arrived a large, multi-decked livestock wagon pulled in loaded with pigs on their way to slaughter. The top deck was open to the air?
Those pigs ( looked to me to be large whites) had travelled from who knows where through sun, snow and chill to reach the Mont Blanc tunnel and were then parked in blazing heat, with no shade or air movement before continuing their journey onward to their deaths.
Such were tbe conditions of animal welfare back then!
 
Tam,
All the main players on the long Italy Greece routes offer 'camper specials' outside of the 'camping on board' season (Apr - Oct). Minoan are the only ones that don't do 'camping on board' so offer a 'camper special' all year round.
This should include electric hook up for the van and an inside cabin for the same price as the 'Camping on board' option. You can upgrade to a pet friendly cabin for a surcharge.

Viamare will sort it for you. ;)

Pete

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Ok so sorry for the radio silence as im having a spot of bother .... seriously bad weather coming in here and im frantically trying to get south but 3 roads have been closed now and turned around by police ..toby isnt great in the snow ..so im now in thiva ...the lidl that had the queues round the carpark is now 2 foot under snow ....last ditch attempt is now the tollroad towards athens and back over Corinth canal ...roads are terrible . Just stopped to fill my diesel to full in case i get stuck somewhere. The problem is theres nowhere even to park to wait it out and no idea how long it will last ...

Just grabbing a sandwich before i get on the autobahn

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That post above should have posted around 1.30pm but somehow didnt.


I had to take the toll roads from thiva to athens then from Athens to corinthos .and im now in mykines where ive finally stopped for tonight ....at least there's no snow here
 
Tam, I've just had another thought - does Milo take himself through to the back of Toby?
Before leaving Scotland I had my little Beardie collie Nell, who was later joined by my current Border Collie Lass.
I regularly drove a pick-up truck in which Nell chose to travel in the open back both on and off road (like many farm collies).
Several times I insisted she come into the cab,when made to do so sh would jump down in the passenger foot well and travel there. If parked and stationary she would get up on the seat and watch tge world go by.
She happily chose to ride on the back of my 800cc road quad in an open box on the vack seat, although I insisted she was securely harnessed to rwo anchor points.
Once I bought tge moho I did a couple of exploratory local runs before leaving for Spain.

On the whole of that journey Lass chose to sit on a window seat immeadiately behind my drivers seat, where she would excitedly look at passing traffic (in the Uk) or the view once on the continent.(I believe, here in Spain and maybe in France too, it is illegal to allow dogs to travel in the front of vehicles.
Meanwhile Nell took herself off to the back where she lay on the floor or in her bed fot the entire journey.
Neither dog was travel sick or afraid when traveling, they did not throw up, pant or slobber, and both would rush to get in if a door was the least bit ajar, one just liked to look out of the window and one very definitely did not.
Sorry it was a bit long winded but perhaps Milo prefers not to see the moving horizon
Mine are just the same. Meg sits up on a seat behind the passenger seat and looks at the passing view. Spice lies on his bed on the floor for the entire journey. Both have harnesses anchored to seat belt buckles.
 
Some pretty bad weather heading north of Greece, motorway from Athens to Tesaloniki is shut along with main roads. Just seen it on the news. It’s suppose to last till tomorrow evening. We got orange code alert for snow wind. Bulgaria is the same, alert for non travel to Bulgaria at the moment, due to weather. Plenty of provisions and hunker down away from wind.
 
Heatings on but its pants when youve to choose between heating or tv ....my batteries cant cope with both it seems ☹️. This time next year ill be sat cosy as anything with my logburner going

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Definitely messaging a B2B for the new build. [EDIT I wrote that before I got to your post saying you will be fitting one - very wise]

In those conditions a short run would have helped and even if parked up with nobody around you could run the engine for 20-30 mins.
 
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Hymerbell said

'Also, MOT runs out in March...does anyone know if I am a still insured in any way if I drive it back MOT’less. I seem to remember you can drive a un MoT’d vehicle direct to MOT station .....does than include directly across Europe ☹️'

I am in the same position in Poland. My MOT ran out end of Jan. DVSA were unhelpful on extending it.

I contacted my insurers - insisting the brokers put the question to the Underwriters not just taking a broker's word - U/W pay the claim not the broker. I got a very helpful reply from a named individual at AXA, who assured me that, despite the policy wording requiring an MOT to be valid as a condition of the policy, they would hold me fully covered while the MH is parked in Poland and for the journey back for the MOT. I doubt the broker's answer would have been as helpful.

I suggest you do the same, even if the same insurer, as you need an individual response. I think I pointed out that they had me covered for the premium but almost no risk for a year, also that it is impossible to SORN outside Great Britain. U/W turned down my offer to get Polish MOT equivalent as unnecessary; very helpful.

Nobody will answer about the legality of crossing other countries without MOT other than to tell you to ask each country. I have not asked, as I do not want to have a negative answer when my head is above the parapet. I have seen several posts saying that when stopped they were asked for Licence, V5C but not MOT. As for posters saying it has to be legal in UK to be legal elsewhere, my response is that it is only illegal to drive in UK without one , except direct to pre-booked MOT, so therefore the MH is legally compliant with UK law(its country of registration). How that argument would go down with other EU authorities I do not know, but they would have to be very hard-hearted not to accept it in the Covid conditions.

Of course there is also the matter of VED, but I was fortunate in that I renewed that one month before MOT expired.

Hope this helps.

Geoff
 
Hymerbell said

'Also, MOT runs out in March...does anyone know if I am a still insured in any way if I drive it back MOT’less. I seem to remember you can drive a un MoT’d vehicle direct to MOT station .....does than include directly across Europe ☹️'

I am in the same position in Poland. My MOT ran out end of Jan. DVSA were unhelpful on extending it.

I contacted my insurers - insisting the brokers put the question to the Underwriters not just taking a broker's word - U/W pay the claim not the broker. I got a very helpful reply from a named individual at AXA, who assured me that, despite the policy wording requiring an MOT to be valid as a condition of the policy, they would hold me fully covered while the MH is parked in Poland and for the journey back for the MOT. I doubt the broker's answer would have been as helpful.

I suggest you do the same, even if the same insurer, as you need an individual response. I think I pointed out that they had me covered for the premium but almost no risk for a year, also that it is impossible to SORN outside Great Britain. U/W turned down my offer to get Polish MOT equivalent as unnecessary; very helpful.

Nobody will answer about the legality of crossing other countries without MOT other than to tell you to ask each country. I have not asked, as I do not want to have a negative answer when my head is above the parapet. I have seen several posts saying that when stopped they were asked for Licence, V5C but not MOT. As for posters saying it has to be legal in UK to be legal elsewhere, my response is that it is only illegal to drive in UK without one , except direct to pre-booked MOT, so therefore the MH is legally compliant with UK law(its country of registration). How that argument would go down with other EU authorities I do not know, but they would have to be very hard-hearted not to accept it in the Covid conditions.

Of course there is also the matter of VED, but I was fortunate in that I renewed that one month before MOT expired.

Hope this helps.

Geoff
I met a couple of brits here in Greece around Christmas time whos 2001 English registered motorhome hasnt been in the uk in 8 years lol so it definitely doesn't have an mot yet they travel all around Europe with it.

God knows how theyve never been caught
 
Definitely messaging a B2B for the new build. [EDIT I wrote that before I got to your post saying you will be fitting one - very wise]

In those conditions a short run would have helped and even if parked up with nobody around you could run the engine for 20-30 mins.
Yes ill definitely be fitting a b2b on my next van. Had i been keeping this one id have been fitting one when home but no point in me doing it now as its next owners may well be campsite users.


But im tired of being worried about lack of power etc so the vario will be overkill on electrics
 
Glad you are back out of the snow and bizzards Tam, keep safe and warm

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that weather just makes him feel very much at home 😁
I said that to him when chatting today, he was not amused. :LOL:

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