Taking your dog to Europe

[gus-lopez]

and that’s just the English side!

No that is for the EU to enter from the UK ,which if nothing changes will be a 3rd country state. Same as at the moment returning into the EU fro Morocco

And just assuming that all is good and I get the health cert (AHC) how long is that certificate valid for?

The 'AHC fitness to travel lasts 10 days.
See link as if using pet passport into the UK it isn't needed.

My understanding is that the AHC will only be necessary if you return after 31/12/2020, and then only if UK becomes an 'unlisted' country for Pet Travel. Returning before that date; the usual Pet Passport is sufficient, assuming the rabies is up to date in the passport and the Tapeworm is done too.

Also, last time I looked (several months ago) the AHC give you 10 days to leave the country and it only lasts for 4 months from the date of issue?

Did I get that wrong?

It still won't be needed to enter the UK after decenmber 31st 2020 if you have a pet passport & it is all up to date.
It will only be necessarty to have one to enter the EU after that date.
Then again if you have a dog with an EU state pet passport they do not need the fitness to travel certificate only the Titre antibody pass certificate.

I need to look into this further if it is you can only travel 10 days after the AHC is issued then how can you book anything, as you won't know if the jab has been successful. Or can the AHC be issued anytime after the antibody test has taken place?

Gosh this is complicated. This and the Schengen rules don't make life easy.

You are confusing 2 diferent certificates.
The Animal health certificate is also called the 'fitness to travel' certificate. This is needed to leave the UK & enter the EU.
The Titre anti-body test certificate has a infinite life as long as all the rabies, vaccinations etc ; are up to date.
To return to the UK only an in date ,up to date pet passport is necessary after 2020

The process in Europe is quicker (1 month instead of 3 months wait after successful blood test)

News to me?

 

[DBK]

The Titre anti-body test certificate has a infinite life as long as all the rabies, vaccinations etc ; are up to date.

Thanks, that was what I meant earlier but I was confusing the AHC with the titre test.

 

[dosser]

Think ill wait and see what shambles is desided after 31st Dec. Up till then its all guesswork....

 

[Northernraider]

Think ill wait and see what shambles is desided after 31st Dec. Up till then its all guesswork....

Not much good if you plan to take a pet to europe before April next year.

 

[Rachelc]

Not much good if you plan to take a pet to europe before April next year.

and therein lies the problem.

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[dosser]

Not much good if you plan to take a pet to europe before April next year.

Yip tottally agree but not much you can do. We were in that situation last year before the March postponment of The B word and erred on the side of caution and got rabies vaccination sorted so worse case we could still go. Unless anybody has a direct line to Wee Govechops and his pals its guesswork unfortunately.

 

[Armytwowheels]

on this point, my dog had her rabies jab back in March before the lockdown. She hasn't had an anti body test and has been issued a passport and we travel under the current rules shortly. Is it worth me getting the anti body test and AHC now or do I wait until just before the new rules come in? As my understanding is that the rabies jab lasts 3 years?

Personally I would get the antibodies test done. If you wait until they decide what is what, the dogs antibody count will be lower and may fail. Meaning unnecessary boosters before the 3 years is up.

 

[Dan and Jan]

Just as a point of interest, would I need a pet passport to travel to Southern Ireland next year? Do you think some sort of reciprocal agreement will still be in position after December.
I have traveled loads of times before with no problems.

 

[gus-lopez]

Just as a point of interest, would I need a pet passport to travel to Southern Ireland next year? Do you think some sort of reciprocal agreement will still be in position after December.
I have traveled loads of times before with no problems.

I can't see how they can require a dog, cat or ferret to require a passport when the Eire residents can travel freely into & out of Britain easier than the British?

 

[Dan and Jan]

I can't see how they can require a dog, cat or ferret to require a passport when the Eire residents can travel freely into & out of Britain easier than the British?

That’s what I mean, come into Dublin travel to Belfast and straight into Scotland, job done. No pet passport.
I have only been stop once, that was during Foot and Mouth. I had a pint of milk. Doh!

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[Wissel]

Just as a point of interest, would I need a pet passport to travel to Southern Ireland next year? Do you think some sort of reciprocal agreement will still be in position after December.
I have traveled loads of times before with no problems.

As i stands, goods can't even travel freely from N.I. to England. This will require a concession from the EU as per the agreement set out earlier. I wouldn't take anything for granted tbh.

 

[Dan and Jan]

As i stands, goods can't even travel freely from N.I. to England. This will require a concession from the EU as per the agreement set out earlier. I wouldn't take anything for granted tbh.

I normally go Troon to Belfast, straight through NI down to County Mayo. Only stopped once in 20 years due to F&M. Be interesting if it changes.

 

[Razamataz]

Pet passport phone number
03702411710
Get answers
Horses mouth
woof!woof!!

 

[phillipsheila]

is that bench near port de la duquesa if im right what do i win

 

[Razamataz]

is that bench near port de la duquesa if im right what do i win

You are Absolutely Correct
Loved our 4 night stay
And the wee ram shackle bar The Refuge
God I wish we were there Now

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[Ukbandit]

on this point, my dog had her rabies jab back in March before the lockdown. She hasn't had an anti body test and has been issued a passport and we travel under the current rules shortly. Is it worth me getting the anti body test and AHC now or do I wait until just before the new rules come in? As my understanding is that the rabies jab lasts 3 years?

You could wait as we don’t know yet what the rules will be, all the rules you are reading on here are if the EU treats us as 3rd country, for example returning from Morocco to Europe. If we get a reciprocal deal with the EU, it could certainly be the same as it is now. Having spouted all that we had the rabies booster done and 30 days later the blood test, and this week we should have the results. So we should be okay either way come brexit whatever they decide.

 

[Bolti]

My understanding is that the AHC will only be necessary if you return after 31/12/2020, and then only if UK becomes an 'unlisted' country for Pet Travel. Returning before that date; the usual Pet Passport is sufficient, assuming the rabies is up to date in the passport and the Tapeworm is done too.

Also, last time I looked (several months ago) the AHC give you 10 days to leave the country and it only lasts for 4 months from the date of issue?

Did I get that wrong?

Strange world where the dogs (and cats) are allowed to stay longer in the EU than their owners.

 

[IanRJ]

Strange world where the dogs (and cats) are allowed to stay longer in the EU than their owners.

LOL - had'nt noticed that!

 

[Bart]

I Need some help and thought i would post here rather than start a new thread.
We are UK Citizens who live in N.Ireland which is part of the UK , Next week we will be travelling from Southern Ireland ( part of the EU ) via ferry to France with 2 dogs , both of which have their pet passports and their rabies jabs ( both parts ) up to date ( BUT NO blood tests done ).
I have a few things i am unclear on.
1. Do the dogs need to visit a Vet prior to sailing for some sort of health check
2. Do the dogs need to get wormed when leaving the UK/Southern Ireland to France just the same as on re entry into the UK . e.g between 24-120 hrs , or does this only apply for Re entry into the UK?
3. As far as i am aware Blood tests at this time are NOT compulsory am i correct?

I know atm you can travel between the North and the South of Ireland without any checks , so this is just concerning travel between Southern Ireland and France , but with us & the Dogs being from the UK.

 

[Potty]

I Need some help and thought i would post here rather than start a new thread.
We are UK Citizens who live in N.Ireland which is part of the UK , Next week we will be travelling from Southern Ireland ( part of the EU ) via ferry to France with 2 dogs , both of which have their pet passports and their rabies jabs ( both parts ) up to date ( BUT NO blood tests done ).
I have a few things i am unclear on.
1. Do the dogs need to visit a Vet prior to sailing for some sort of health check
2. Do the dogs need to get wormed when leaving the UK/Southern Ireland to France just the same as on re entry into the UK . e.g between 24-120 hrs , or does this only apply for Re entry into the UK?
3. As far as i am aware Blood tests at this time are NOT compulsory am i correct?

I know atm you can travel between the North and the South of Ireland without any checks , so this is just concerning travel between Southern Ireland and France , but with us & the Dogs being from the UK.

1 No health checks are required when travelling between EU countries, which both Eire and France both are

2 No worming treatment is required when entering the EU.

3 Blood tests are not required at the moment.

As long as your pets passprt is valid when you enter the EU, it remains valid no matter what happens re Brexit.

If you are still concerned, check with the ferry company who should have all the up to date info.

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[martin2603]

What ever happened to that" FANTASTIC DEAL "I seem to remember promised by the prodigal persons as they stood in front of a certain red bus!!

 

[Lynne Roy]

on this point, my dog had her rabies jab back in March before the lockdown. She hasn't had an anti body test and has been issued a passport and we travel under the current rules shortly. Is it worth me getting the anti body test and AHC now or do I wait until just before the new rules come in? As my understanding is that the rabies jab lasts 3 years?

We had our dog given a new rabies vaccine, 3 weeks later the titre test, I was worried but she didn’t even squeak, as long as we keep up to date with her rabies vaccinations , the titre test is only needed once.

 

[Speve]

My understanding is that the AHC will only be necessary if you return after 31/12/2020, and then only if UK becomes an 'unlisted' country for Pet Travel. Returning before that date; the usual Pet Passport is sufficient, assuming the rabies is up to date in the passport and the Tapeworm is done too

As far as I can find out entry rules back to UK will not change after leaving EU so if you leave this year you will get back in on your existing documents

 

[gus-lopez]

Pet passport phone number
03702411710
Get answers
Horses mouth
woof!woof!!

yes good idea but even better email as you actually have all that you want in writing , which I have, 6 can argue the toss whne it becomes necessary. .

You could wait as we don’t know yet what the rules will be, all the rules you are reading on here are if the EU treats us as 3rd country, for example returning from Morocco to Europe. If we get a reciprocal deal with the EU, it could certainly be the same as it is now. Having spouted all that we had the rabies booster done and 30 days later the blood test, and this week we should have the results. So we should be okay either way come brexit whatever they decide.

If you wanted to come to the UK in 2019 or reenter the EU after you had to have it done then as we were "leaving " in March 2019, Then "leaving " again in June 2019 , then "leaving " again in October 2019 then January 2020. none of us would have been able to wait 2 years whilst the muppets kicked the can down the road so many had to have it done in late 2018, if Uk registered, so as to be compliant for entry in march 2019.

Strange world where the dogs (and cats) are allowed to stay longer in the EU than their owners.

Ferrets ,you forgot the ferrets.

 

[Casper46]

I appreciate the following isn't for everyone but before the transition period ends (i.e. 31/12/2020) I intend to obtain new EU Pet Passports from a French vet.

The process in Europe is quicker (1 month instead of 3 months wait after successful blood test) and, based on my experience of French vets, probably cheaper too.

I'll report back to let you know how I get on.

E,
Casper has a French passport, I think you need a French address to obtain one but I'm not sure about that. I decided to get him one last year when our English vet told us that they would not accept his existing blood test that he had 10 years ago and which he has been travelling on for years. She said she would not issue a travel certificate. Our French vet charged 75% less for a new blood test and passport that the quote from our UK vet.

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[Bart]

1 No health checks are required when travelling between EU countries, which both Eire and France both are

2 No worming treatment is required when entering the EU.

3 Blood tests are not required at the moment.

As long as your pets passprt is valid when you enter the EU, it remains valid no matter what happens re Brexit.

If you are still concerned, check with the ferry company who should have all the up to date info.

Thanks for the answers

 

[Minxy]

I appreciate the following isn't for everyone but before the transition period ends (i.e. 31/12/2020) I intend to obtain new EU Pet Passports from a French vet.

The process in Europe is quicker (1 month instead of 3 months wait after successful blood test) and, based on my experience of French vets, probably cheaper too.

I'll report back to let you know how I get on.

E,
Casper has a French passport, I think you need a French address to obtain one but I'm not sure about that. I decided to get him one last year when our English vet told us that they would not accept his existing blood test that he had 10 years ago and which he has been travelling on for years. She said she would not issue a travel certificate. Our French vet charged 75% less for a new blood test and passport that the quote from our UK vet.

Doesn't the French rabies vac only get a 1 year period rather than 3 years which we have in the UK?

 

[Tykatem]

By having your dogs titre tested it will give you the peace of mind that your dog is truely protected and has the full immunity against rabies, as it's thought that 1 in 10 dogs fail to be immune after having the rabies injection/booster. The added bonus of having the titre tested is being able to travel with them to the likes of Serbia, Turkey & Albania and will only require doing once, so long as you keep their rabies boosters up todate.

Pete

 

[Casper46]

Doesn't the French rabies vac only get a 1 year period rather than 3 years which we have in the UK?

Yes....but Caspers is for three years and I didn’t query it.
Unfortunately he is slowly losing the use of one of his back legs so I doubt he will be with us when it needs renewing.
I'm not going to let him read this posting.

 

[John Barrett]

E,
Casper has a French passport, I think you need a French address to obtain one but I'm not sure about that. I decided to get him one last year when our English vet told us that they would not accept his existing blood test that he had 10 years ago and which he has been travelling on for years. She said she would not issue a travel certificate. Our French vet charged 75% less for a new blood test and passport that the quote from our UK vet.

Our first encounter with a French vet was when Millie was attacked by a huge tic when we were cruising the Canal Du Midi in 2006. The vet saw us straight away, removed the tic, and when asked for the bill he just suggested we buy one of his tic removal toolkits at €4.40, which we still have! Our UK vets' charges are really beyond the pale...

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