Starlink ordered… I feel it’s the only sensible option now..

[cbrookson]

Startink Mini power consumption is about 30 watts. It does have a snow melt mode for the mini but I haven’t used that yet in the U.K.!! The App has information on the power usage.

 

[fred_jb]

Neat package, though as it is not tethered by a cable would be even easier to steal than a naked dish if left unattended. I also wonder in reality how much of a benefit the increased portability really is. It looks too large and heavy to go hiking or biking with, and will also need recharging every day, so you are probably going to be carrying it in a vehicle where you already have access to a 12V supply.

In that case why not just power it from a cable. Admittedly cable length for a 12V supply is severely limited which might be what has prompted this design. However, if you adapt it for POE (power over ethernet) using a 48V supply as I have done, you are not limited in cable length in the same way you would be if just connecting to 12V. My Mini works fine at the end of a roughly 85ft long cable. A lot cheaper too than the design presented in the video!

 

[Tombola]

And it keeps goin

SpaceX's Starlink Adds 1 Million Users in 4 Months

Starlink's user base has reached 4 million, up from 3 million in May.

uk.pcmag.com

 

[MisterB]

Neat package, though as it is not tethered by a cable would be even easier to steal than a naked dish if left unattended. I also wonder in reality how much of a benefit the increased portability really is. It looks too large and heavy to go hiking or biking with, and will also need recharging every day, so you are probably going to be carrying it in a vehicle where you already have access to a 12V supply.

In that case why not just power it from a cable. Admittedly cable length for a 12V supply is severely limited which might be what has prompted this design. However, if you adapt it for POE (power over ethernet) using a 48V supply as I have done, you are not limited in cable length in the same way you would be if just connecting to 12V. My Mini works fine at the end of a roughly 85ft long cable. A lot cheaper too than the design presented in the video!

Not as cheap as my full 12v conversion with the router inside the housing .... and not something to brag about usually, but mines a lot smaller than his ....lol

 

[Carpmart]

Anyone got a Gen 2 Starlink Dishy (Standard Actuated) they don’t use and are thinking about selling?

Thanks in advance.

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[fred_jb]

Anyone got a Gen 2 Starlink Dishy (Standard Actuated) they don’t use and are thinking about selling?

Thanks in advance.

Yes I have one which I'm intending to sell. I paid £150 for it so looking to sell for around £125. Message me if interested.

 

[fred_jb]

Not as cheap as my full 12v conversion with the router inside the housing .... and not something to brag about usually, but mines a lot smaller than his ....lol

And mine's longer than his! That is to say it can run off a longer cable on a tripod when roof mounting is too shaded. The longer of my two ethernet cables is about 85ft and it works fine connected via that.

 

[Carpmart]

Yes I have one which I'm intending to sell. I paid £150 for it so looking to sell for around £125. Message me if interested.

Hello Fred

Yes please.. will PM!

 

[MisterB]

Hello Fred

Yes please.. will PM!

I didn't jump in because you had already asked, but I'm interested in getting another Gen 2 aswell if anyone is looking to change to a mini ??

If anyone has cut the cable to their router and kept the end they cut off (pref at least 4 inches as a minimum), I could do with one for my next project !! checkout the following posting, i would love to do some testing using makita batteries ..

 

[MisterB]

what about this for a 'minilink' (my name for the starlink mini) power supply .....

Mini "Response" DeWalt Adapter

Mini Starlink Dish "Response" DeWalt Battery Adapter Intended for on the go and rapid deployment. Ideal for mobile business, backpacking, at the beach, at the track, fire fighting or wherever you can imagine The Response adapter stands alone in its design with the dish being oriented at the...

adrconceptdesign.com

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[Sheddy]

I am considering a mini roam setup for our van, but would be grateful for some advice as to which country to get my deal.
We normally spend 3 months of the winter on site in Spain, and a further 2 months of the year in the EU mainly in Germany where our Son, DIL and grand children live.
We use the van for about a month during the rest of the year (summer) in the UK.
Can I use either of the Spanish (Site) or German (Sons Home) addresses as my base location? Obviously I would suspend the service when not in the van, and would I get any service for the month in the Uk?
Edit: I don't intend to use it when at home.

 

[Fragle]

We are just coming to the start of the new t&cs

I will wait now for updates on how they are being applied before making any decisions. Will you actually get cut off after 2 months out of country. Can you have a base location in another country without an official address. Lots of questions will get answered in the near future. We are planning the next trip from mid January hopefully some will already be answered by then

A decision made in haste may be the wrong decision is my thought. If it looks good then I will invest in the mini as we have a panel van and space is a premium.

We have just returned after 2 months away. I have turned on the Starlink so it knows I'm back in the country and then suspended from the 12th Oct. We don't use it in the UK unless it's some end of month leftovers from Euro use.

 

[MisterB]

I am considering a mini roam setup for our van, but would be grateful for some advice as to which country to get my deal.
We normally spend 3 months of the winter on site in Spain, and a further 2 months of the year in the EU mainly in Germany where our Son, DIL and grand children live.
We use the van for about a month during the rest of the year (summer) in the UK.
Can I use either of the Spanish (Site) or German (Sons Home) addresses as my base location? Obviously I would suspend the service when not in the van, and would I get any service for the month in the Uk?
Edit: I don't intend to use it when at home.

I would be strongly considering getting it in Spain as it appears to be cheaper there and you could always get a German SIM from your son if you needed it?

 

[Fragle]

I would be strongly considering getting it in Spain as it appears to be cheaper there and you could always get a German SIM from your son if you needed it?

I agree but until we know how the new rules are interpreted we all might be making a lot of assumptions.

 

[Carpmart]

My view is the rules and clarification questions asked and answered by Starlink CSA’s are ‘unfortunately’ pretty clear! The only bit that isn’t clear is the ‘may’ wording.

TBH, I’m probably going to be the Guinea Pig here as we are away now until June ‘25 in Europland. The policy change is forcing my hand as I wish to keep service. The plan is to migrate the current Gen2 over to Spain, wife sisters address or with of my brothers two houses in Spain will work fine. Worst case scenario is that will cost me $199 USD, although there is ‘copy’ from the CSA’s saying this won’t be charged.

This puts me on a Spanish Roam plan at I believe €71 per month. This is as opposed to £96… a very handy saving. We can this at will around Spain for Dec-April and then also up into France for part of April through into June.

Thanks to fred_jb i will have another dishy which I will start in the UK then roam into France in late Aug ‘25 when we start another Euroland nine months away. It’s then rinse and repeat.

There is a little bit of Admin which wasn’t there with stopping the Roam tariff on each dish as needed (I’ve left it running to date), but aside from this, the upside is quite a reduction in overall cost to run Starlink!

It all seems to me that Starlink have enacted a policy which is driving me to do precisely what they were trying to prevent!

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[Gromett]

Interesting.

FCC lets Starlink provide service to cell phones in areas hit by hurricane

Temporary authority comes after Musk slammed FCC for not giving money to SpaceX.

arstechnica.com

 

[Carpmart]

So I’ve started the process of migrating my UK Starlink service to a Spanish Starlink service. Just need customer services to answer a couple of questions, which is proving difficult as the buggers haven’t replied for three days!!!

 

[MisterB]

So I’ve started the process of migrating my UK Starlink service to a Spanish Starlink service. Just need customer services to answer a couple of questions, which is proving difficult as the buggers haven’t replied for three days!!!

Keep us informed of the progress ......

 

[Fragle]

My view is the rules and clarification questions asked and answered by Starlink CSA’s are ‘unfortunately’ pretty clear! The only bit that isn’t clear is the ‘may’ wording.

TBH, I’m probably going to be the Guinea Pig here as we are away now until June ‘25 in Europland. The policy change is forcing my hand as I wish to keep service. The plan is to migrate the current Gen2 over to Spain, wife sisters address or with of my brothers two houses in Spain will work fine. Worst case scenario is that will cost me $199 USD, although there is ‘copy’ from the CSA’s saying this won’t be charged.

This puts me on a Spanish Roam plan at I believe €71 per month. This is as opposed to £96… a very handy saving. We can this at will around Spain for Dec-April and then also up into France for part of April through into June.

Thanks to fred_jb i will have another dishy which I will start in the UK then roam into France in late Aug ‘25 when we start another Euroland nine months away. It’s then rinse and repeat.

There is a little bit of Admin which wasn’t there with stopping the Roam tariff on each dish as needed (I’ve left it running to date), but aside from this, the upside is quite a reduction in overall cost to run Starlink!

It all seems to me that Starlink have enacted a policy which is driving me to do precisely what they were trying to prevent!

Thank you for being the guinea pig on this.

I'm assuming we are waiting for the 2 month cut off if it happens. So around 10th Dec

We are not returning to Spain until mid Jan so hoping they don't cut off as we will be going for 3 months

 

[Carpmart]

Thank you for being the guinea pig on this.

I'm assuming we are waiting for the 2 month cut off if it happens. So around 10th Dec

We are not returning to Spain until mid Jan so hoping they don't cut off as we will be going for 3 months

Yes I feel like the Guinea Pig again!

But I have no choice. We are away until June and I don’t want to have any service restrictions.

At the moment, SL customer service are just ignoring me! It day three with me asking daily for updates, nothing back!

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[Carpmart]

So just had a 20 minute call with Starlink Customer Services shift supervisor Sarah in California… this was an escalation from the original call some 30 mins earlier.

I’ve put my (our) case forward and pointed out several issues. She was actually very receptive and on several occasions reached out to her boss and they determined that they can’t answer my very valid questions and they will take it away and respond formally.

The call was recorded and I took the opportunity to specifically mark the call so that they could refer to the part of the call easily with my explanation of on the ground application of the new terms they have invoked.

Some clarity I did get:

The 60 days outside of your country (whatever country that is) is firm. They refer to it as two months, it’s 60 days.
One day back in your home country will reset the clock.
They will not charge me $199 USD for registering in another country.
I have to setup a whole new account and transfer my service to that new account. There is no way to avoid this.
They agreed they will mark my account with a pinned comment explaining this so I don’t have to go through the same process each time.


The bit they are coming back to me on is the conflict between 60 and 90 days. There policy is 60 days use outside your home country, service restricted. There other policy is 90 days usage before you can transfer accounts. You can see the conflict this creates.

I explained the difference between US terms and UK terms and that they were forcing me onto lower tariffs. This appears to not be commercial and is risk focused and much more based on back to backing terms and conditions on the country operator agreements with those in their consumer contracts. They understand the revenue loss but don’t care!

I had the global roam sales pitch, but explained I was a retired RVer and nearly £400 is over $500 USD and I simply can’t afford it!

Overall a constructive call! Let’s see what they come back with!

 

[Fragle]

So just had a 20 minute call with Starlink Customer Services shift supervisor Sarah in California… this was an escalation from the original call some 30 mins earlier.

I’ve put my (our) case forward and pointed out several issues. She was actually very receptive and on several occasions reached out to her boss and they determined that they can’t answer my very valid questions and they will take it away and respond formally.

The call was recorded and I took the opportunity to specifically mark the call so that they could refer to the part of the call easily with my explanation of on the ground application of the new terms they have invoked.

Some clarity I did get:

The 60 days outside of your country (whatever country that is) is firm. They refer to it as two months, it’s 60 days.
One day back in your home country will reset the clock.
They will not charge me $199 USD for registering in another country.
I have to setup a whole new account and transfer my service to that new account. There is no way to avoid this.
They agreed they will mark my account with a pinned comment explaining this so I don’t have to go through the same process each time.


The bit they are coming back to me on is the conflict between 60 and 90 days. There policy is 60 days use outside your home country, service restricted. There other policy is 90 days usage before you can transfer accounts. You can see the conflict this creates.

I explained the difference between US terms and UK terms and that they were forcing me onto lower tariffs. This appears to not be commercial and is risk focused and much more based on back to backing terms and conditions on the country operator agreements with those in their consumer contracts. They understand the revenue loss but don’t care!

I had the global roam sales pitch, but explained I was a retired RVer and nearly £400 is over $500 USD and I simply can’t afford it!

Overall a constructive call! Let’s see what they come back with!

Thanks for the info.

So she is adamant that they are not going to change the outside your country use after 60 days despite somewhere like Belgium being only 175x90 miles yet Florida alone is 447x361 miles

They really are unbelievable.

 

[Carpmart]

Thanks for the info.

So she is adamant that they are not going to change the outside your country use after 60 days despite somewhere like Belgium being only 175x90 miles yet Florida alone is 447x361 miles

They really are unbelievable.

The explanation was it’s driven by contractual risk. Their agreement with country operators obviously have citizen and country specific protection built in. Some countries like Spain apply a levy to trade with their citizens. They don’t want to pay that levy (direct and real cost to Starlink) if the user isn’t using it in their home country.

They have therefore changed the terms and conditions to back-to-back and mitigate this commercial risk. I pointed out that it represented a higher commercial risk as the policy was eroding their revenue from me! She acknowledged my point, but was clear the policy was understood and not flexible.

 

[olley]

Bummer, so it goes on to restricted use after 60 days in Europe?

 

[Carpmart]

The upshot following the discussion today is I’m going to have to set up an account in Spain and start a new service on the new account. It will be FOC to do so! I need a different email address as this is the unique identifier they use.

I’ve been assured that they will manually administer my account so I can swap to other countries as I travel, even though it will be 60 not 90 days. Time will tell if they will indeed honour that.

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[Carpmart]

Bummer, so it goes on to restricted use after 60 days in Europe?

Yes, definitely based on my call today!

 

[olley]

How restricted, do you know?

 

[Carpmart]

How restricted, do you know?

I didn’t ask, but the way I was discussing with her, it stops working until you do a day back in your ‘home’ country.

 

[olley]

Ok thanks.

 

[Langtoftlad]

Might there be a way to fool the Starlink router into thinking it was back in its 'home' country?
Rather like a VPN can fool streaming services into thinking you're not where you are.

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