Starlink ordered… I feel it’s the only sensible option now..

I think this is the route I am going to take. A choice made easier by some rather substantial radio mast mounting points on each of the four corners of my Bedford, which began life as a Ptarmigan signals truck many moons ago.

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I used to teach Ptarmigan many moons ago for 11 Sigs at Blandford!
 
Yes I found that option after I ordered the Dishy Dualie - Which at the time expecting was delivery late July !
Decided when I found out about the Yaosheng products to wait for the Dualie
Just checked delivery process and in 2 days the Dualie has got to Langley sorting office in UK. Still says 28th expected delivery though ? cant take that long to go through customs ?
Boondocker Dishy Dualie arrived - Very quick delivery from Canada sent 14th. arrived 18th
Looks good - Now need to wire it all up - no rush as will not be using dish for a while and probably not until next summer
 
Still waiting for mine ordered on 14th July.
 
I used to teach Ptarmigan many moons ago for 11 Sigs at Blandford!



Well then you might be able to confirm that it is one of the Ptarmigan nodes. I had no idea when I bought it but a friend who served in the Signals saw it and instantly recognised it as one of the trucks that she served along side. It’s left hand drive and saw service in Germany in the late eighties so I have no reason to doubt her.

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It is a great conversation starter and I have so many people come up and chat about their experiences of Bedfords.

So, don’t hesitate to come over and say hello if you spot me out there!

Regards

Mark

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I unfortunately have had a problem…

Yesterday whilst watching the F1 in central France, it started buffering… then didn’t stop.

After numerous hard reboots of the router and much video watching, troubleshooting guides etc etc I determined the router is fine, the issue lays with the dish.

Starlink support think the issue is with the cable and are shipping one too me. I’m touring so not at home, so am going to have to get that forwarded onto me when it arrives and I know where I will be for a few days…

All this means that we are now back to using two 100gb Popit sims and 4G service… 🤬

Two bits of credit worth highlighting, Popit have agreed to (special circumstances) sell me two 100gb services for our phones which were on 10gb plans and halfway through a usage period. Very decent of them and gives me some data headroom.

Starlink are shipping a cable FOC.. the cynical side of me says they obviously know the cables are maybe not quite as good as they could be, but at least they are standing by their product… the cynical side again comes out and they want my £85 per month… 😎

Anyway, even ‘er-in-doors is quite happy with the temporary solution and impressed with my extensive efforts in trying to rectify and has resorted to expanding and consuming her kindle library.

As to cause, the only thing I can think of that may have been an issue is it was raining heavily the last time I connected the cable at the dish end. Could I have inadvertently got the connection wet? Maybe I laid it on the wet roof whilst getting set up, would a bit of moisture have caused this issue?

My advice, is keep your cable ends scrupulously dry and clean.

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Another good reason to have it permanently mounted on the roof.
 
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Maybe… 🤪

Would a little bit of moisture really cause the issue I've had with the cable?
not sure but if it permanently fixed and there is no cable swapping going on the only other concern is going to be hardware failure which of course can still happen but if this cannot take a few cable swaps (ie plug in and out etc when being moved) then it's not fit for purpose.

It's more likely to be a short in the cable somewhere if working one minute and buffering the next which may be down to a host of different things, kinked or damaged some how.
 
not sure but if it permanently fixed and there is no cable swapping going on the only other concern is going to be hardware failure which of course can still happen but if this cannot take a few cable swaps (ie plug in and out etc when being moved) then it's not fit for purpose.

Anyone seen any waterproof cable ends, actually end (singular), the one for the router to Dishy connector?
 
Anyone seen any waterproof cable ends, actually end (singular), the one for the router to Dishy connector?
Isn't that just a normal RJ45 connector? that's what I have used coming from Dishy through roof then into RJ45 connector then out of this to router

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I unfortunately have had a problem…

Yesterday whilst watching the F1 in central France, it started buffering… then didn’t stop.

After numerous hard reboots of the router and much video watching, troubleshooting guides etc etc I determined the router is fine, the issue lays with the dish.

Starlink support think the issue is with the cable and are shipping one too me. I’m touring so not at home, so am going to have to get that forwarded onto me when it arrives and I know where I will be for a few days…

All this means that we are now back to using two 100gb Popit sims and 4G service… 🤬

Two bits of credit worth highlighting, Popit have agreed to (special circumstances) sell me two 100gb services for our phones which were on 10gb plans and halfway through a usage period. Very decent of them and gives me some data headroom.

Starlink are shipping a cable FOC.. the cynical side of me says they obviously know the cables are maybe not quite as good as they could be, but at least they are standing by their product… the cynical side again comes out and they want my £85 per month… 😎

Anyway, even ‘er-in-doors is quite happy with the temporary solution and impressed with my extensive efforts in trying to rectify and has resorted to expanding and consuming her kindle library.

As to cause, the only thing I can think of that may have been an issue is it was raining heavily the last time I connected the cable at the dish end. Could I have inadvertently got the connection wet? Maybe I laid it on the wet roof whilst getting set up, would a bit of moisture have caused this issue?

My advice, is keep your cable ends scrupulously dry and clean.
We keep a spare cable on board. Also, when unplugging the dish end, don’t pull on the cable, use your fingernail (or something small) to push the cable out , rather than pulling
 
That’s interesting whilst away this summer I found the dish end of the cable a touch temperamental. I never specifically removed it when taking dish off roof
When putting on roof about 4 times dish would not work and I needed to pull out and re plug dish connection
I think these connections are possibly a weak point
 
Everlanders did say that he had trouble with fitting a rj45 on, apparently the wires are thinner than normal.
 
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Everlanders did say that he had trouble with fitting a rj45 on, apparently the wires are thinner than normal.
i think that was when he was using the rj45 connectors where you have to use a sleeve and put that inside the rj45 to then crimp, with the newer connectors they pass the cable through so a lot easier to ensure all cables are in the right place and have a good connection when crimped.
 
Boondocker Dishy Dualie arrived - Very quick delivery from Canada sent 14th. arrived 18th
Looks good - Now need to wire it all up - no rush as will not be using dish for a while and probably not until next summer
That's good service (finally) Can I ask, was their UK duty to pay? Postal handling charge?

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That's good service (finally) Can I ask, was their UK duty to pay? Postal handling charge?
If the seller "manufactures" the goods in Canada and its under 130 gbp then usually no.
But may be a small handling customs declaration fee.

Obviously "manufacturer " is a loose word if he gets shipments from China. Depends what he puts on the export invoices.

coopc can confirm better
 
Seems like my order (boondocker) has been sent even though I don't need it. Watch the classifieds section soon, I have printed a case for it as well which will be included.
 
Seems like my order (boondocker) has been sent even though I don't need it. Watch the classifieds section soon, I have printed a case for it as well which will be included.

I’d like first refusal please… 👍🏻
 
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Hi to confirm. There was no uk handling charges
Usual postie just handed it to me

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Just taken payment for mine and en-route in shipping.
 
Its on the roof and working so thats a relief as I cut and joined the cable. What's the trick with RJ45 plugs? I must have spent 30-40 mins just getting two on, flipping wires just wouldn't go in the holes and when they did it was in the wrong order.:mad::mad:
Everlanders made it look so easy.
 
Its on the roof and working so thats a relief as I cut and joined the cable. What's the trick with RJ45 plugs? I must have spent 30-40 mins just getting two on, flipping wires just wouldn't go in the holes and when they did it was in the wrong order.:mad::mad:
Everlanders made it look so easy.
Have you got the pass through ones as these are a lot easier to work with than the others as then you can see if they are in the correct order before crimping and if not take out and reinsert. Everlanders did get it wrong as well and had to recrimp :)
 
Its on the roof and working so thats a relief as I cut and joined the cable. What's the trick with RJ45 plugs? I must have spent 30-40 mins just getting two on, flipping wires just wouldn't go in the holes and when they did it was in the wrong order.:mad::mad:
Everlanders made it look so easy.
Back in the day I was building out my two 19"racks I had just leased in a data centre in Canary Wharf for a move down from Nottingham. Each rack was 48 U and was double depth. So that was 96U. I had to install these almost to capacity with 1U rack mount servers with Dual redundant NICs. Each 10 servers also had a spare cable routed just in case. So each server had 2 cables totalling 4x cat 5 connectors each. I will leave you to do the maths. Each cable was cut exactly to the right length and terminated, tested, routed and connected. This was not a job we did in one day :D


Since that day. I buy ALL my ethernet cables pre-terminated and wouldn't even consider terminating one myself ever again :D
 
Back in the day I was building out my two 19"racks I had just leased in a data centre in Canary Wharf for a move down from Nottingham. Each rack was 48 U and was double depth. So that was 96U. I had to install these almost to capacity with 1U rack mount servers with Dual redundant NICs. Each 10 servers also had a spare cable routed just in case. So each server had 2 cables totalling 4 cat 5 connectors. I will leave you to do the maths. Each cable was cut exactly to the right length and terminated, tested, routed and connected. This was not a job we did in one day :D


Since that day. I buy ALL my ethernet cables pre-terminated and wouldn't even consider terminating one myself ever again :D

Just wow… I not sure how long back you were setting this up in the colo, but I bet using todays servers it would be a 10th of the rack/cab space needed… 😉

Or a bit of AWS infra! 🤪

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Starlink plug was too big for my roof fittings so no choice but to cut it Gromett
It the adaptor from boondocker ever arrives I will be cutting it again.:confused:
 
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Just wow… I not sure how long back you were setting this up in the colo, but I bet using todays servers it would be a 10th of the rack/cab space needed… 😉

Or a bit of AWS infra! 🤪
Everything is going AWS or Azure, they all think it's new but of course it's not. So called mainframes are not new just these are more up to date and have more bells and whistles. In the end you still pay through the nose when you want something or need it fixing, just someone else has to do it and the company pay.

No choice but to cut mine as the smaller the hole the better and an 8mm hole is better than a 30mm plus with the connector on it, easy to crimp it though and you can also get rid of the spare cable that you dont need and keep it as a spare :)
 
I have a tester I use after crimping and have just bought the pass through connectors aswell !
 
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Just wow… I not sure how long back you were setting this up in the colo, but I bet using todays servers it would be a 10th of the rack/cab space needed… 😉
2000 or 2001 from memory.

We started to convert over to 4U Dell servers in 2003 and were using Virtuozzo virtualisation before AWS was a thing. They are not doing anything new or clever in my view, just using their size and scale to their advantage.
They are awfully expensive once you get past a fairly small tier compared to physical hardware.

By the Time I sold the business I had 6 x 4U servers in that datacenter and 2 x 4U servers in two other datacentres one in Europe and one in the US. Moving from Single core risc servers to multicore servers was brilliant.
The virtualisation was handy for migration. We could in 2003 migrate a virtual server from one physical node to another without any downtime. This was game changer for me in terms of load balancing across some what where then very, very, very expensive servers.

Even had a couple of Sun servers. Looked at the IBM zSeries mainframes but the price and wait time was too long. Also the maintenance contract... JEEEEEEZ!!!!

Everything is going AWS or Azure, they all think it's new but of course it's not.
Surprisingly a lot of companies are now realising that it is better to have the majority of core stuff in house and are reversing out of the cloud due to the extremely high costs.

pass through are so much easier than using those sleeves.
Wish those had been around when I was doing this 20+ years ago.

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