Starlink ordered… I feel it’s the only sensible option now..

As I posted earlier on this, a couple of XT60 connectors would be my approach, cheap reliable and designed for the job! 👍✔️
Yes but not as neat though as an integrated single socket of some sort.... :unsure:
 
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My latest thoughts are to use an RJ45 connection, and use 4 of the wires in cat 5/6 for the 48v two for the 12v and two for the negative (ground), or will the 48v only need a couple of wires or even just one wire each? As the power consumption is only a few amps then I'm sure the cable size in the cat 5/6 would be ok, especially as it's possible to provide POE to the router via the same cable. I could then mount a female jack flush/neatly into the case itself? I just need to check out how POE actually carries the power as it's something I haven't yet looked at, though I am not actually using POE but just cables and connectors that should be able carry the load.
Read the specs on PoE. Follow them and you should be fine. I would strongly advise against going non standard on the connectors though. A brain fart and you can blow something up or start a fire.

Easy(ish) explanation.
 
PS: I suspect you would be trying to pump in too much power for both the router and the dish and would be out of spec?
 
PS: I suspect you would be trying to pump in too much power for both the router and the dish and would be out of spec?
Thanks but it wouldn't actually be POE, I would just be using the cables and connections. One end would connect to the 12v and 48v supplies and the other end to the connections I've already made in the router itself.
 
Thanks but it wouldn't actually be POE, I would just be using the cables and connections. One end would connect to the 12v and 48v supplies and the other end to the connections I've already made in the router itself.
I am not a fan of using connectors in non standard ways as I have previously stated. :(

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PaulandChrissy

Loving the starlink router bracket/stand on the classifieds!
I made it with some help from Carpmart and his router. It can be mounted upright or upside down with cable routing in any direction. I’ve tried to design it to be usable in as wide a range of positions as possible. it’s super secure. Carpmart will put a picture up once he’s installed his. If anyone wants one, just give us a shout.
We are off to Norway for 12days from the 29th so we will be off grid for a bit.
Cheers PaulandChrissy
 
Pictures of the Starlink router bracket… horizontal installation so I can completely hide all cables in the wall.. thanks to PaulandChrissy for the excellent work to enable this! ✔️👍🏻
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Link to this in classifieds.


Highly recommended 😜
 
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Pictures of the Starlink router bracket… horizontal installation so I can completely hide all cables in the wall.. thanks to PaulandChrissy for the excellent work to enable this! ✔️👍🏻View attachment 774647View attachment 774648View attachment 774649View attachment 774650

Link to this in classifieds.


Highly recommended 😜
That will be a really good test for it, mounted horizontally. Nice job. Looking very smart.
Enjoy PaulandChrissy
 
That will be a really good test for it, mounted horizontally. Nice job. Looking very smart.
Enjoy PaulandChrissy
Great idea to mount so the wires are hidden away and as it close to the wall it looks as though it's in a safe position and unlikely to be damaged.
 
I have no idea why starlink provide such a hideous shaped router and no ethernet port unless you then want to fork out more money for their adaptor.

As i am cutting the wire anyway i will be using my own router but that 3d design looks very neat and well thought out.

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I have no idea why starlink provide such a hideous shaped router and no ethernet port unless you then want to fork out more money for their adaptor.

As i am cutting the wire anyway i will be using my own router but that 3d design looks very neat and well thought out.

The reason for the no ethernet is few people use it. So to keep cost down they omit it. They do provide an ethernet port adapter if you want to add one.

As for shape. Design asthetics more than anything I would guess. If it was a little beige box the Apple fan boy types would be less likely to buy it.
 
The reason for the no ethernet is few people use it. So to keep cost down they omit it. They do provide an ethernet port adapter if you want to add one.

As for shape. Design asthetics more than anything I would guess. If it was a little beige box the Apple fan boy types would be less likely to buy it.
pretty sure an ethernet port would fit in the existing router if they wanted to add one and the cost would be pence and whoever came up with that design has never used one while travelling where things need to be mounted neatly. Even my mifi has an ethernet port which can come in very useful on certain occasions especially troubleshooting.
 
pretty sure an ethernet port would fit in the existing router if they wanted to add one and the cost would be pence and whoever came up with that design has never used one while travelling where things need to be mounted neatly. Even my mifi has an ethernet port which can come in very useful on certain occasions especially troubleshooting.
10p multiplied by millions that have been sold. Add to it the ancillary components and the increased size of the PCB. The added complexity of the mould etc. If only 10% of your users use the ethernet port that is quite the saving.
I have no problem with it not being included and have ordered the adapter.

As for the shape. It was never designed originally as a travel device. Also I have no problems with the shape, size or dimensions for travelling?

I am just grateful for the service it offers at a very decent price.
 
10p multiplied by millions that have been sold. Add to it the ancillary components and the increased size of the PCB. The added complexity of the mould etc. If only 10% of your users use the ethernet port that is quite the saving.
I have no problem with it not being included and have ordered the adapter.

As for the shape. It was never designed originally as a travel device. Also I have no problems with the shape, size or dimensions for travelling?

I am just grateful for the service it offers at a very decent price.
why have roam if not travelling, have you seen how much space is inside this router there would be very little cost if it was part of the original design. just my opinion :)
Just more money to them as they want you to buy an accessory which makes sense on a business scale just not good for consumer.
 
why have roam if not travelling, have you seen how much space is inside this router there would be very little cost if it was part of the original design. just my opinion :)
The system was not originally designed for roaming. That came later.

As for the ethernet. They needed to keep the cost down. Remember they were launching millions of $ of satellites with very little income stream. Every cent mattered.

Just more money to them as they want you to buy an accessory which makes sense on a business scale just not good for consumer.
Musk stated the logic behind it was, why should everyone pay more for something that only 10% use. Much better to only charge those that use it. It is all very logical.
It turns out that the actual figure is lower than 10% based on the number of sales of the ethernet adapter. People don't actually need ethernet for the most part.
I do, and ordered it and have no problems with that.

As for the appearance. It was designed to look good sitting on a desk, a sideboard or next to a TV. It was not designed with portability in mind. Hence it requires the 240V not 12V.

They will eventually do a mobile version no doubt, but that is not yet here. I am sure the mobile version will be a more convenient shape and size.

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The system was not originally designed for roaming. That came later.

As for the ethernet. They needed to keep the cost down. Remember they were launching millions of $ of satellites with very little income stream. Every cent mattered.


Musk stated the logic behind it was, why should everyone pay more for something that only 10% use. Much better to only charge those that use it. It is all very logical.
It turns out that the actual figure is lower than 10% based on the number of sales of the ethernet adapter. People don't actually need ethernet for the most part.
I do, and ordered it and have no problems with that.

As for the appearance. It was designed to look good sitting on a desk, a sideboard or next to a TV. It was not designed with portability in mind. Hence it requires the 240V not 12V.

They will eventually do a mobile version no doubt, but that is not yet here. I am sure the mobile version will be a more convenient shape and size.
Doesn't make sense to me but i am in the 10%, not to much of an issue as will just bin the starlink router as it just doesn't have the features i need.
 
They will eventually do a mobile version no doubt, but that is not yet here. I am sure the mobile version will be a more convenient shape and size.
Agree and a better roam setup no doubt. They are making profit now so more money will be ploughed into future Dev and also bear in mind most large tech companies have a timeline in place for future "better" gear to be released when they think the current version isngetti g stale in customers eyes...it's normal practice to be at least one tech step ahead.
 
It was not designed with portability in mind. Hence it requires the 240V not 12V.

They will eventually do a mobile version no doubt, but that is not yet here. I am sure the mobile version will be a more convenient shape and size.


From what I've seen on the net and my own experience in opening the router up, I can confirm there is quite a bit of seemingly unused 'volume' inside the router, however when I was running the router with no glass front, I noticed the heat syncs were very hot. Perhaps the volume allows greater dissipation of heat?

I also wondered if the heat inside is what sometimes leads to no connection to the satellites? I have decided to install a 12v computer fan inside to help with the cooling. It prob doesn't need it as Im sure the designers have spent some time doing their research and testing, but what the hell lol! If the router was smaller then im sure it would need a fan.

As for a more compact version, the issue I see is that it needs a 48v supply and a 12v supply so a lot of space inside the router is taken by a circuit board that does that conversion process. It doesn't require 240v or 120v - I have one of mine connected purely to a 12v supply (see previous posts) and it works fine and I assume just bypasses the 240v/120v board.
 
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Now that the Camino (Tiekom) service has had its day and the continued roaming data challenges, as well as crappy data service in the UK, I’ve had enough of pratting around as I just want always on, full service broadband wherever I am.

So, the solution (I hope) is a Starlink Roam order was placed today. £460 for the hardware, £95 per month for the service. I know some may consider this expensive but I will no longer need a data tariff SIM in the UK for the Netgear, nor will I need the Tiekom data SIM for between 5 and 8 months per year and I can knock back the Popit SIMs to 10Gig each, so the difference is not that great really.

I’ve worked out a spot on the roof where I will be fitting a small frame to mount the dish whilst parked up. It will be a couple of mins job to climb ladder and four wing nuts to secure, connect the cable and job is done!

The cable will be permanently installed through the roof into my existing media cupboard and at present I will power from my main inverter, but I may switch to a small 250w Victron pure sine wave inverter just for this in the future, so I don’t have to leave the main inverter on all the time.

Starlink quote around one KWh of power consumption per day. The peak power consumption is 75w and average consumption seems to be in the 35w range (230v power ratings). Many North American RV users are suggesting that the power consumption is way better than Starlink suggest and better than they expected.

A new feature from Starlink should help with power use as you can set ‘night periods’ where the system shuts down during set hours to reduce power consumption. I’ve ordered and will fit another 200w solar panel to augment the existing solar. I actually needed a larger Amperage Victron MPPT and some bigger cable to the batteries as well, so not the cheapest exercise… 🤦‍♂️

I’ve purchased a compact almost purpose designed electrical box to store the 75ft cable in on the roof when travelling. This will enable me to move the dish from the roof to the ground should I have obstacles obstructing the dish, but very easily without too much faff.

Will try and document a ‘how I did it’ incase it is of interest and or use to others and will of course let everyone know how good (I hope) this is…..

🤞 the expectation and promise from Starlink matches real world performance. Watch this space! 🤪
For someone who doesn’t have a great grasp of the 12v conversion and the complexity of trying to follow this thread.
The starlink comes as 240 v. I am looking at upgrading our van with vanbitz to give us enough energy to be off grid. Couple of lithium. B2B. Inverter etc
Also thinking of starlink now.

Question is.
Would I need to convert it to 12v. Is the drain too much at 240v?
I have no idea and wondered if you could help?
 
For someone who doesn’t have a great grasp of the 12v conversion and the complexity of trying to follow this thread.
The starlink comes as 240 v. I am looking at upgrading our van with vanbitz to give us enough energy to be off grid. Couple of lithium. B2B. Inverter etc
Also thinking of starlink now.

Question is.
Would I need to convert it to 12v. Is the drain too much at 240v?
I have no idea and wondered if you could help?
you dont have to convert it to 12v but you would need an invertor to power it when off grid, the power consumption is better on 12v but that depends on how much spare capacity you have to start with. For me its about convenience as 12v is so much easier to deal with rather than having to keep powering on the invertor, we only ever use the invertor when it needs to be on and then its switched off straight away but we don't have a lot of lithium ie 2 x 100a batteries inc the usual B2B etc.

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For someone who doesn’t have a great grasp of the 12v conversion and the complexity of trying to follow this thread.
The starlink comes as 240 v. I am looking at upgrading our van with vanbitz to give us enough energy to be off grid. Couple of lithium. B2B. Inverter etc
Also thinking of starlink now.

Question is.
Would I need to convert it to 12v. Is the drain too much at 240v?
I have no idea and wondered if you could help?

There is no need to convert it to 12v… yes it would be more efficient, but in no way a necessity.

You will use between 0.7Kwh and 1.0Kwh of power per 24hrs. Of course, when not using and or powered off, the Starlink consumption drops accordingly… in the real world over the last six weeks, I would estimate we use an additional 0.5kwh per day.
 
you dont have to convert it to 12v but you would need an invertor to power it when off grid, the power consumption is better on 12v but that depends on how much spare capacity you have to start with. For me its about convenience as 12v is so much easier to deal with rather than having to keep powering on the invertor, we only ever use the invertor when it needs to be on and then its switched off straight away but we don't have a lot of lithium ie 2 x 100a batteries inc the usual B2B etc.
Forgive my ignorance. Understand that 12v uses less I am aiming for 300 ie 2x150.
Is there a reason to turn the inverter off. Do you not leave them on?
 
Forgive my ignorance. Understand that 12v uses less I am aiming for 300 ie 2x150.
Is there a reason to turn the inverter off. Do you not leave them on?
leaving the inverter on uses battery even if not being used so we tend just to switch it on when its needed ie warming something in the microwave or putting the toaster on or coffee maker etc etc. It always goes off after as we dont need it for 95% of what we have in our motorhome. You will have more battery than us but it depends on what your usage is, everyone will be different so hard to say.
 
leaving the inverter on uses battery even if not being used so we tend just to switch it on when its needed ie warming something in the microwave or putting the toaster on or coffee maker etc etc. It always goes off after as we dont need it for 95% of what we have in our motorhome. You will have more battery than us but it depends on what your usage is, everyone will be different so hard to say.
Understand that re inverter. Thanks.
As far as the starlink goes. I assume that is the same. Turn off when not required and you do not need it to be on all the time.
Does it take long to boot up from off?
 
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Understand that re inverter. Thanks.
As far as the starlink goes. I assume that is the same. Turn off when not required and you do not need it to be on all the time.
Does it take long to boot up from off?
If running from mains and you are on mains ie EHU then i would likely just leave it on, i would usually only turn it off if i was running it from battery and i was not going to be needing it for the day/evening. From my limited testing it can take quite a while to boot up and then lock on ie 5-15mins but i have not really used it a lot and some of that could have been updating the firmware. One of the other members i am sure will be able to provide a more accurate time of loading.

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If running from mains and you are on mains ie EHU then i would likely just leave it on, i would usually only turn it off if i was running it from battery and i was not going to be needing it for the day/evening. From my limited testing it can take quite a while to boot up and then lock on ie 5-15mins but i have not really used it a lot and some of that could have been updating the firmware. One of the other members i am sure will be able to provide a more accurate time of loading.
Thank you.
I’m only curious as is on hook ups it will stay on obviously.
It’s more for off grid. Saving power etc. even if it takes 15 minutes to boot up. There are plenty of things to do while it sorts itself out.
Our main use will be tv for football/f1 ect you tube and browsing. Not work.
I’ll check with Ashley at vanbitz on how much power we will have first. Maybe in the meantime they will sell a 12v version
Thanks for the advice
 

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