Starlink ordered… I feel it’s the only sensible option now..

[MisterB]

I couldn't get another one under the same email address as the first, not sure why but i just registered another email and it all went through. Received it today so will see if i can add it to the same account when setting it up, not sure that will work but if not it's not a big deal to have 2 separate accounts, in fact in one way it will be easier to manage as i wan't one for home backup and the other for Motorhome. Also if i mess up cutting up the first one i have a spare

my plan is to get one under my wifes name/email/bank account - however something is telling me that it wont completely go to plan, i think the last point will be far from successful

Mine was supposed to be delivered today....but DHL is now saying "delayed"

that happened to a few of us, so nothing to be too concerned about - youve paid and entered into a contract !

 

[MisterB]

. Also if i mess up cutting up the first one i have a spare

theres a you tube video showing how to open up the case to remove the motor etc without cutting - it looks a lot more civilised. one thing that is intriguing me, is that everyone seems to cut the cables and rejoin them using shielded rj45 connections or remove the starlink connectors. i havent seen anyone just make up a new cable of whatever length they want and use new 'molex/multi plug' type connectors direct to the dish. i wonder if its a standard electrical connector or whether they designed their own ?

 

[Bustup15]

theres a you tube video showing how to open up the case to remove the motor etc without cutting - it looks a lot more civilised

I think this makes mounting into a new 'frame' more difficult though?

 

[zac]

theres a you tube video showing how to open up the case to remove the motor etc without cutting - it looks a lot more civilised

Dint want the full case only the motor part which I have a video from everlanders which looks pretty straight forward. Unfortunately you just never know what is going to happen at the time when you attempt it. Waiting on some asa filament before anything else as no point cutting it without a case to put it in. Hopefully that will be here next week now but there is no rush.

 

[MisterB]

I think this makes mounting into a new 'frame' more difficult though?

Dint want the full case only the motor part which I have a video from everlanders which looks pretty straight forward. Unfortunately you just never know what is going to happen at the time when you attempt it. Waiting on some asa filament before anything else as no point cutting it without a case to put it in. Hopefully that will be here next week now but there is no rush.

the casing could always be reassembled after removing the motor? i like the everlanders videos on starlink, i do like his easy style and the fact he shares everything for free !
if i go down the path of flat mounting though, i would want to be able to offer a bit more protection to Dishy from hailstones. i think the mounting kit etc from Holland mentioned earlier would do that.

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[Bustup15]

 

[Kups]

I wonder if the Motorhome WiFi system would do the same thing in terms of linking wirelessly to the SL

Or even better my Netgear M2 ..

As I've paused my service I'm not sure I could test either of them until get over to France.

Nope, the motorhome mifi is SIM card driven and only has a LAN (outgoing) socket. Don't think it can be linked by WiFi to SL.

 

[Bustup15]

Not sure what happened as this wasn't the link I attached

 

[zac]

Nope, the motorhome mifi is SIM card driven and only has a LAN (outgoing) socket. Don't think it can be linked by WiFi to SL.

He mentions motorhome WIFI which should be able to be linked to the wifi part of the starlink and then redistributed inside the vehicle. If its wifi he is talking about as a lot of people mix the two up.

 

[MisterB]

Nope, the motorhome mifi is SIM card driven and only has a LAN (outgoing) socket. Don't think it can be linked by WiFi to SL.

I'm not sure that is correct. I used to connect to the camp site WiFi in France using the motorhome WiFi setup. We had to pay for the site WiFi but not for a sim for the motorhome WiFi

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[zac]

the casing could always be reassembled after removing the motor? i like the everlanders videos on starlink, i do like his easy style and the fact he shares everything for free !
if i go down the path of flat mounting though, i would want to be able to offer a bit more protection to Dishy from hailstones. i think the mounting kit etc from Holland mentioned earlier would do that.

The problem that I see with this method is that you would need to reseal it or buy something to put the dishy in. These cases online are extremely expensive at over £300. For me the easiest option is to cut just the motor and print my own case. They must be built for bad weather as a lot will be outside permanently on poles etc in residential areas
Still have to print a case yet which is already proving to be challenging in ASA. May have to print in PETG which will be a lot easier as if white it won't see a lot of sun anyway being around the sides.

 

[MisterB]

The problem that I see with this method is that you would need to reseal it or buy something to put the dishy in. These cases online are extremely expensive at over £300. For me the easiest option is to cut just the motor and print my own case. They must be built for bad weather as a lot will be outside permanently on poles etc in residential areas
Still have to print a case yet which is already proving to be challenging in ASA. May have to print in PETG which will be a lot easier as if white it won't see a lot of sun anyway being around the sides.

I reckon PaulandChrissy will crack the printing challenge and hopefully show us all where we are going wrong lol.

I also think there will be lots more options for a case coming along soon, until then I think Carpmart has a really good method that can put the case cutting on hold for a while until more options become available

 

[zac]

Won't need ours for quite a while so can definitely wait. I prefer a fit once and forget but it needs to be flat to the roof on my vehicle. Hopefully as you say more cheaper options will start to appear now they are getting popular.

 

[Minxy]

The only mod I think I will do is have a couple of hooks one side as I am reaching out of roof light to install and even with my pop up stool I could do with being a few cm taller to reach both sides

A couple of slots in the furthest bar for the 2 feet to slot into would do the trick, then just plonk the nearest onto bolts and use wing nuts as mentioned, it doesn't have to be totally level (not much chance on most MHs anyway!) so the slightly lower far side won't make any difference.

 

[MisterB]

Starlink number 2 now ordered ... If I don't use it as think I will be able to, I can always give it to the kids!

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[zac]

Starlink number 2 now ordered ... If I don't use it as think I will be able to, I can always give it to the kids!

Once the deal is over they will be getting a break as they must of sold shed loads at that price.

 

[Tombola]

Once the deal is over they will be getting a break as they must of sold shed loads at that price.

the import container count is probably low and depending on how happy they are with the sign ups probably determines if another offer appears. Even judging on the interest in this thread shows its working as an advert.

They used to lose money on every dish sold even at £400 but I reckon now the new version and the amount they have scaled to manufacture will have had a big impact on this. esp considering now they are turning a profit, that will help. Even though remember the freebies dished out to Ukraine, must have had an impact on numbers.

Considering they had hit more than 1 million users by Dec 22 mainly USA, I wonder how many in the UK/EU are now dishing out 85.00 per month after this promo. Even if they shipped just 10 40 foot containers to the UK/EU then thats the equivalent of 120,000 starlink subscriptions.
Will average out at £10 mill per month just in subscriptions without the cost of the hardware or any add-ons, and it isn't even anywhere near mainstream yet.

I just hope the Sattelite launches keep up with the pace of the subscribers.

 

[zac]

the import container count is probably low and depending on how happy they are with the sign ups probably determines if another offer appears.
They used to lose money on every dish sold even at £400 but I reckon now the new version and the amount they have scaled to manufacture will have had a big impact on this. esp considering now they are turning a profit, that will help.
Considering they had ht more than 1 million users by Dec 22, I wonder how many in the UK/EU are now dishing out 85.00 per month after this promo. Even if they shipped just 10 40 foot containers to the UK/EU then thats the equivalent of 120,000 starlink subscriptions.
Will average out at £10 mill per month just in subscriptions without the cost of the hardware or any add-ons, and it isn't even anywhere near mainstream yet.

I just hope the Sattelite launches keep up with the pace of the subscribers.

that's for sure else there are going to be a lot of unhappy subscribers , yesterday i had a note on my account saying service in my area was disrupted but what i did like was that they put a time when they expected it to be resolved. Shame they all don't do this instead of the usual "oh there's an issue, we are working on it"

 

[Tombola]

that's for sure else there are going to be a lot of unhappy subscribers , yesterday i had a note on my account saying service in my area was disrupted but what i did like was that they put a time when they expected it to be resolved. Shame they all don't do this instead of the usual "oh there's an issue, we are working on it"

funny that, I was in llandudno yesterday and it kept going from 160 down to 30 or even less, then a few tiny drop outs that Id never known before.

 

[Gromett]

that's for sure else there are going to be a lot of unhappy subscribers , yesterday i had a note on my account saying service in my area was disrupted but what i did like was that they put a time when they expected it to be resolved. Shame they all don't do this instead of the usual "oh there's an issue, we are working on it"

To be fair to normal ISP's. The cable that comes to your house goes to a local box, which then joins the local trunk line either to another junction box and then onto the exchange. Then there are trunks to other exchanges, then it goes to Internet exchanges where different networks share traffic. Lots of inter reliant parts. Lots to go wrong and quite often multiple leases and contracts. For instance power provided to some boxes. Some 3rd party connectivity, etc etc. Then there is equipment.

SpaceX has an advantage. They have your dish, the satellite(s) passing over and the ground station. That is it. Their ground station will have multiple layers of redundancy. So predicting fix times is much simpler as they have staff on hand at the ground station ALL the time. BT don't have an engineer at every street side box and trunk line.

For 3G/4G/5G is it even worse as they have remote masts to deal with each having remote connections, power and access issues.

The only downside I can foresee with Starlink is that it may get congested over time. But not so much of a risk if you are out in the rural areas.

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[Carpmart]

Make no mistake, the Starlink sale is a vanity play for Musk to build Market Cap in Starlink (subscriptions do this not hardware sales, although obviously linked, in non US territories) therefore increasing his personal nett worth by $XBn USD.

 

[Gromett]

Make no mistake, the Starlink sale is a vanity play for Musk to build Market Cap in Starlink (subscriptions do this not hardware sales, although obviously linked, in non US territories) therefore increasing his personal nett worth by $XBn USD.

Another hit piece on Musk.

It is not about vanity. It is about profit. You know the whole point of a business.

 

[MisterB]

funny that, I was in llandudno yesterday and it kept going from 160 down to 30 or even less, then a few tiny drop outs that Id never known before.

I watched a YouTube video yesterday that spoke about Dishy reorientation. It appears that because there are a lot of users 'inland', those who live near the coast have had their dishes automatically reorientated to point towards the sea as they should get less 'traffic' using those satellites ...

 

[Carpmart]

Another hit piece on Musk.

It is not about vanity. It is about profit. You know the whole point of a business.

Nothing against Musk, PayPal was (is) a phenomenal service which undermined legacy banks and drove services faster through the completion it provided. I was merely observing the rationale of the current Northern European (UK) sale Starlink are undertaking.

WRT profit, Actually many businesses spend a huge amount of time and resource ensuring profits are minimised because of the advantages or reinvesting into capital projects, reducing tax etc etc. At this stage of Starlink it most certainly isn’t about profit. The shareholders are king so Market Cap is the driver. Market cap is driven hugely by subscriber #’s and market penetration, It’s how the Valley works, hence my observations.

 

[Gromett]

Make no mistake, the Starlink sale is a vanity play for Musk to build Market Cap in Starlink (subscriptions do this not hardware sales, although obviously linked, in non US territories) therefore increasing his personal nett worth by $XBn USD.

PS: There is no "market cap" for SpaceX it is not a floated company and is therefore not on the "market". It is privately held with him being the majority shareholder.

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[Gromett]

Nothing against Musk, PayPal was (is) a phenomenal service which undermined legacy banks and drove services faster through the completion it provided. I was merely observing the rationale of the current Northern European (UK) sale Starlink are undertaking.

WRT profit, Actually many businesses spend a huge amount of time and resource ensuring profits are minimised because of the advantages or reinvesting into capital projects, reducing tax etc etc. At this stage of Starlink it most certainly isn’t about profit. The shareholders are king so Market Cap is the driver. Market cap is driven hugely by subscriber #’s and market penetration, It’s how the Valley works, hence my observations.

See my previous post. It is not a floated company there is not share price.

Profit is key. Without profit he cannot launch more satellites.

You do know why he is doing this don't you?

It is ALL about mars. Nothing else.

 

[Carpmart]

PS: There is no "market cap" for SpaceX it is not a floated company and is therefore not on the "market". It is privately held with him being the majority shareholder.

Splitting hairs… market cap is the value the world sees in what a business is doing. Consumer offer, market penetration, geographical diversity, consumer experience, subscriber numbers all drive this, not profit at this stage of a businesss. I of course appreciated it’s not listed.

 

[Carpmart]

See my previous post. It is not a floated company there is not share price.

Profit is key. Without profit he cannot launch more satellites.

You do know why he is doing this don't you?

It is ALL about mars. Nothing else.

Sorry but your fundamentally wrong WRT profit… it’s a complete red herring right now. He’s not amassed $Bn’s USD through profits…

I didn’t realise he was invested in Mars, snickers etc.

 

[Gromett]

Splitting hairs… market cap is the value the world sees in what a business is doing. Consumer offer, market penetration, geographical diversity, consumer experience, subscriber numbers all drive this, not profit at this stage of a businesss. I of course appreciated it’s not listed.

No it's not. The clue is in the name Market Capitalisation. Ie the amount of capital it has raised from the market. It is the value the market has set for the company based on it's share price multiplied by the number of shares issued on the market.


SpaceX needs money to launch rockets. This comes from one of two sources. Profits from business activity OR from selling his own personal shares.

So... He is boosting sales of starlink to make profits so he doesn't have to sell shares.

 

[Gromett]

Sorry but your fundamentally wrong WRT profit… it’s a complete red herring right now. He’s not amassed $Bn’s USD through profits…

It appears you not only don't understand what market capitalisation is. You don't understand the difference between profit and stock value.
Musk is paper rich due to the number of shares he holds not due to any profit the companies he has shares in makes.

I didn’t realise he was invested in Mars, snickers etc.

You don't know much about Musk by the sounds of things. Find out why he set up SpaceX in the first place and you will have your answer. You may find it a lot more entertaining than you think and certainly more interesting than taking pot shots at someone like you are doing.

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