Gellyneck
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Read on!What visa for Coventry too. Outrageous.
Or is that to get out
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Read on!What visa for Coventry too. Outrageous.
Or is that to get out
Yes I saw that we didn't pay but wasn't sure if we needed to actually applyApply, don't pay
Yes you have to apply you cant be a persona non grataYes I saw that we didn't pay but wasn't sure if we needed to actually apply
Only if you intend travelling to Schengen...if not.... don't apply.Yes I saw that we didn't pay but wasn't sure if we needed to actually apply
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We all want to get in before it gets too crowded because you are too tight to leave....We ve noticed a lot of German and Dutch Tourists in UK this summer. No idea why![]()
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you just give them the TIE resident card on the top of passportWe are too, but I still have a British passport. My wife is Spanish. I wonder how that will be when we arrive in the UK next year.
Pre transition under the WACan’t remember if you are Spanish residents pre transition period or post, as in NLV ?
that is all I do at Dunkirk :TIE on top of passport hand them over & the French border guard hands them straight back without looking?currently at airports we show both our passports and Residents card...
UK passports have been fully biometric for over 15 years...Only if you intend travelling to Schengen...if not.... don't apply.
Those that live in Schengen have Biometric ID....the UK doesn't...your application will provide this info.....and will be there to control your movements....![]()
That would be a reliefOnly if you intend travelling to Schengen...if not.... don't apply.
Those that live in Schengen have Biometric ID....the UK doesn't...your application will provide this info.....and will be there to control your movements....![]()
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True...our EU identity cards have our fingerprints as well as our photo, signature and ID number...UK passports have been fully biometric for over 15 years...
The application process is more just to collect additional information the passport does not such as fingerprints and link that to your biometric ID (the passport). This is why in US they don't need to take fingerprints on every visit now, as they can match the biometric in the passport to your photo (the biometric stored is an international standard for identifying a human via common things like distance between your eyes etc, from photo and the photo they take in front of you. Funnily enough these do not change with age etc.
Thanks. As you may well have read, residency wasn’t right for us at the time.We are permanent residents pre transitional period.....As we have biometric ID we don't need to register...
What may be confusing is if we visit the UK, what procedures would be in place at Border Control for overseas visitors....or will this not be on exiting the UK but entering Schengen, currently at airports we show both our passports and Residents card...
Not me mate, my wife has to twist my arm to get me back to UKWe all want to get in before it gets too crowded because you are too tight to leave....
Yes it will!wont affect me i have an Austrian passport ,,
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I'm not diasgreeing it'll be bad initially (it was in US too!). But you can see how it'll be less bad once fingerprints taken first time, as you don't need to take them every time (as US proved) by linking to the existing biometric data on the Passport, so it's a one time scan thing, then in future trips just validate, as you already have it."The Government have hoped this will not cause any addition disruption" ..........
I actually laughed at the news.
Newsreaders will be regretting their Michael 'No hurricane' Fish moment.
Anyone want to join me in a venture?
Every mile down the coast bound M20 I want to install a loo that you pay £1 to enter.
Next to each one there will be an ice cream or burger van concession.
We will have a captive audience! Thousands of vehicles trapped for days in the queue for the ferries.
Pre-pandemic I was a very frequent airport traveller, so have used all the various entry systems for years.I'm not diasgreeing it'll be bad initially (it was in US too!). But you can see how it'll be less bad once fingerprints taken first time, as you don't need to take them every time (as US proved) by linking to the existing biometric data on the Passport, so it's a one time scan thing, then in future trips just validate, as you already have it.
However as proven by them once you have a viable system it becomes easier to handle via cameras -> Believe it or not, at US exit now, in airports with the system, you walk out via the gateline and your image alone opens the gate (as they know you on that plane).
They could do this on entry too, but the entry process now (assuming you see a human), is just look at this camera, bing, nope we don't need fingerprints we have them, welcome to the USA. It obviously takes longer for peopoe like my parents who on their first visit it took 1-2 mins to colelct all of their prints.
Remember a lot of people will be common visitors, and I suspect systems similar to Global Entry (in US) will emerge too within a year (if you have Global Entry, you can literally enter the USA via a machine in sub 20 seconds by scanning PP and your face).
Worth reading https://www.cbp.gov/travel/biometrics/airports - > it's everywhere in US, and where entry and exit are listed as biometric, it's all photo based (so most of major international airports now covered).
What about people who wear masks or Burkas?I'm not diasgreeing it'll be bad initially (it was in US too!). But you can see how it'll be less bad once fingerprints taken first time, as you don't need to take them every time (as US proved) by linking to the existing biometric data on the Passport, so it's a one time scan thing, then in future trips just validate, as you already have it.
However as proven by them once you have a viable system it becomes easier to handle via cameras -> Believe it or not, at US exit now, in airports with the system, you walk out via the gateline and your image alone opens the gate (as they know you on that plane).
They could do this on entry too, but the entry process now (assuming you see a human), is just look at this camera, bing, nope we don't need fingerprints we have them, welcome to the USA. It obviously takes longer for peopoe like my parents who on their first visit it took 1-2 mins to colelct all of their prints.
Remember a lot of people will be common visitors, and I suspect systems similar to Global Entry (in US) will emerge too within a year (if you have Global Entry, you can literally enter the USA via a machine in sub 20 seconds by scanning PP and your face).
Worth reading https://www.cbp.gov/travel/biometrics/airports - > it's everywhere in US, and where entry and exit are listed as biometric, it's all photo based (so most of major international airports now covered).
I bet you have one of these?It’s not what they want it’s what we asked for to be outside the club and be treated as a third party.
I thought Dover was going to check in coach passengers away from the ferry port area?Pre-pandemic I was a very frequent airport traveller, so have used all the various entry systems for years.
I have alopecia, which means very few features on my face, no hairline, no eyebrows, which means the facial recognition has less points to try to recognise.
Iris scanners also do not work for those with 7+ on their eye prescription, and the finger prints scanners hate people with a history of eczema.
All of which I have, so every time in the past that I have tried the automated route I get pulled aside.
However coming into Heathrow last week, for the first time ever, it recognised my face!
I guess the technology is improving.
That is all well and good in a situation where you have foot passengers.
Therefore it will work in airports, it will work on Cruise ships,
if there is enough space, it can even be made to work in a railway station.
However how do you make it work in a ferry port ?
Especially one with very limited space and no room for expansion.
Every person out of every vehicle, to go on foot through a scanner, and then somehow rejoin their vehicle without getting mixed up with the new arrivals.
Even if you say the driver only remains with the vehicle and just the passengers pass through on foot you are going to need a large drop off area, and then and much larger collection area.
How do you deal with 20 coach loads arriving at the same time, as the process time, per coach, is 5 hours (60 people, 5 mins each with one scanner, or 30 mins with 10 scanners).
Even terminal 4 at Heathrow only has about 20 scanners and an army of staff and acres of buildings to deal with the people.
None of which will be available at Dover as their simply is not the space to build such as a facility.
(Boris's idea to build a Airport/ferry terminal/rail terminal/cruise terminal on the Goodwin Sands is now actually beginning to look sensible, although a single change in the rules could make it Europe's biggest White Elephant at a stroke)
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Funnily enough the US are not as liberal about those as in UK. Face coverings off for the US border is the rule.What about people who wear masks or Burkas?
£1 - this rip off Britain, surely people will be desperate enough to pay a tenner"The Government have hoped this will not cause any addition disruption" ..........
I actually laughed at the news.
Newsreaders will be regretting their Michael 'No hurricane' Fish moment.
Anyone want to join me in a venture?
Every mile down the coast bound M20 I want to install a loo that you pay £1 to enter.
Next to each one there will be an ice cream or burger van concession.
We will have a captive audience! Thousands of vehicles trapped for days in the queue for the ferries.
They will have to.I thought Dover was going to check in coach passengers away from the ferry port area?
That’s for me to know and you to find out
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My best friend has one..a fully fledged Remain, lib Democrats, bible basherThat’s for me to know and you to find out
We are all human a little more kindness understanding and less judgement goes a long way.
Hope your day goes well
You might have asked ...I feckin didn'tIt’s not what they want it’s what we asked for to be outside the club and be treated as a third party.
They're in to fetish a lot on Germany and Holland..so probably masochistsWe ve noticed a lot of German and Dutch Tourists in UK this summer. No idea why![]()
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I was in on a conference call yesterday with City based financiers and economists discussing exactly this subject, about which they are all non-political experts.Just wait until after The Labour Party October Budget tax increases directly & indirectly, plus the increases in energy costs, council tax, and no doubt additional costs to the motorist like fuel duty rises etc.
I don't think a 7eu Visa entry to France on our holidays is going to be even noticed, thats is of course if you can still afford a continental holiday.
LES
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