Second home owners reprimanded?

[Captain Pants]

He's no different to you or anyone else in the UK.

Of course he is...... apart from being Government leader, ultimate responsible for Government policy, finger on the nuclear button, overseeing the response to the biggest crisis in a century etc. The last thing we need is the PM dealing with critical issues if that means he can’t fully socially isolate. Bit like a NHS worker really?

 

[dipsie]

Eddievanbitz, first time I was aware of you I think you were from Brixham.

BernieT

 

[Paulypaul]

Are they moving back to their first/second home next week, staying put or is this just supposition.

Well, given the "no nonsense " approach of Norfolk Police, as described by their head honcho Simon Bailey, I would assume that they're staying put till they are good and ready to go back to London. After all, they know the Police are going to do naff all.

 

[Captain Pants]

Tomorrow I may leave my home in Northamptonshire and drive 420 miles to my second home in the highlands, carrying with me a screen shot of the BBC news report of the other Boris going to Chequers just in case I get asked

I hope the Police are amused by your ridiculous gesture.

 

[bigtwin]

As laudable an idea as that is, it’s really just not reality.

To be able to do such you would need to be very financially secure and very charitable, also you would need to be very sure about the buyer, imagine you lived in the West Country and as a seller decided to do such a “local market price” unlike the channel Islands you would have no guarantee that the buyer would not sell to an open market.

Therefore, the benefit of your generosity would simply be last, or in other words you would be giving your own money to someone else for no long term benefit to the communit.

That is exactly the point he is trying to make in response to those who suggest that high house prices are the sole result of purchasers and has nothing to do with sellers.

Ian

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[Paulypaul]

Of course he is...... apart from being Government leader, ultimate responsible for Government policy, finger on the nuclear button, overseeing the response to the biggest crisis in a century etc. The last thing we need is the PM dealing with critical issues if that means he can’t fully socially isolate. Bit like a NHS worker really?

But surely wasn't it his own disregard for his own governments advice that led him to become infected in the first place, along with his health minister? Surely he should lead by example....or is he just like his old dad? Bless him?
Do as I say not as I do. That seems to be the ethos that the lot of them live by whilst the minions just keep on getting shafted by the lack of support?

 

[Paulypaul]

I hope the Police are amused by your ridiculous gesture.

I dont think the Police would be able to work out the sarcasm or irony?

 

[Captain Pants]

But surely wasn't it his own disregard for his own governments advice that led him to become infected in the first place, along with his health minister? Surely he should lead by example....or is he just like his old dad? Bless him?
Do as I say not as I do. That seems to be the ethos that the lot of them live by whilst the minions just keep on getting shafted by the lack of support?

Given his role and environment he works in, I’d be surprised if he didn’t contract it! Added bonus is we now a PM with immunity (probably) so can get on with dealing with all this stuff without holding back for concern of his own welfare.

 

[Solwaybuggier]

But surely wasn't it his own disregard for his own governments advice that led him to become infected in the first place, along with his health minister? Surely he should lead by example....or is he just like his old dad? Bless him?
Do as I say not as I do. That seems to be the ethos that the lot of them live by whilst the minions just keep on getting shafted by the lack of support?

Interesting to reflect on Rachel Johnson’s recent book - she recounts how as children they were encouraged by Stanley to play football where there was a No Ball Games sign, and when a neighbour complained he (Stanley) threatened to punch the neighbour. Rules only apply to other people...

 

[Captain Pants]

I dont think the Police would be able to work out the sarcasm or irony?

They wouldn’t need to to as it’s neither.

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[AXO66]

Clock resets every time you go out.

hmm.

could die of a heart attack as well.

what we actually
2m rule strictly observed.

all, yep all items bought washed in soapy water

all hands sanitised as soon as boot packed

all door handles sanitized .

Hands washed again

chances virtually zilch.

only real danger is someone sneezing or coughing.

oh and no touching face.

got a scrtachy stick thing if i get an itch

this thing spreads by touching face nose and eyes, from hands or sneeze cough off someone else.

i am playing devil's advocate though just to push the boundaries and chew the fat!.

i reckon we will be self isolating as much as possible into next year when hopefully we can get a jab.

 

[AXO66]

Er ... yup ... you went out into the community ...

just as i do at home.

and if i moved from pembs to my penthouse in london?

(i am playing devils advocate of course)

 

[eddie]

Your continued insistence that any local who sells a house in the West Country is ‘greedy’ is quite bizarre. Have you ever sold a house on the open market? If so, does that make you ‘greedy‘ too?

Yes but i dont drip and go on and on and on about how bad the people buying houses are

I took the money and run

Like the locals that sold their communities birthrights

I have already suggested a solution

Compulsory purchase, funded through the rates

Simple enough, if there is a will

Bet there's not

Absolutely right, and what is an ‘inflated price’ anyway? There is no such thing. The market is the market, simple.

So people aren't doing anything wrong, they are paying the market price

 

[eddie]

Eddievanbitz, first time I was aware of you I think you were from Brixham.

BernieT

Yes I was working in Brixham

i was born in a village of less than 100 people

I am not aware of you.

 

[Simon Meadwell]

All we have to do is follow the guidelines its not rocket science its even becoming the norm now. Why cant people understand whats being said one thousand times a day STAY at home. Instead all the knob heads try to find every excuse under the sun to floute the rules. Good friends of ours down the road keep having their son round he comes and goes as he pleases so wrong.

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[eddie]

Strikes me that the angst in this thread is more about the politics of envy than fact or actual issues

soon it will be wrong to have a nice motorhome

 

[Captain Pants]

Strikes me that the angst in this thread is more about the politics of envy than fact or actual issues

soon it will be wrong to have a nice motorhome

Predictable, just surprised it took so long.

 

[eddie]

Predictable, just surprised it took so long.

I like to speak S L O W Y so the thick kids can K E E P UP

 

[PeteH]

Are you sane? I'm a normal person not rich. now semi stuck in Bordeaux? Rules are the same for all! not better off or poor.

So, Your in Bordeaux,? BUT your avatar says your in Skelmersdale?. Which when I last looked on the Map was in Lancashire?. Yep, just checked google, it`s still in Lancashire. they haven't moved it to France then?.

 

[Shaders]

Many villages and small towns in Cornwall and Devon have new structures set up now as the one I live in which prohibits any new builds now for second homes and will also not grant permission for change off use to holiday lets now either as they reckonise how much a struggle it is for people who live there

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[PeteH]

Think to be fair....the issue of whether or not there is local infrastructure to support future housing is not the issue for the person who wishes to build properties but for the local authorities who have given the planning permission for the properties to be built. Local authorities have to consider these issues prior to granting consent? If granted I can only assume they were happy that sufficient resources were in place or planned for?

You, haven`t had the "delights" of dealing with our L-A?. Their So called "planners", couldn't plan a booze up!. The head man has already been the subject of one police investigation!. "lack of evidence"!. Over the last 10 or more years, I have had several "run-ins with both him and his deputy, over being "economical with the truth". His face and body language was a picture, when "we", as a group, defeated the plans for an " Anaerobic Digester" gas plant within 500 yards of the primary school (for one). L-A`s are charged with the provision of "infrastructure", But the fact that the Primary school is already oversubscribed, our surgery tiny, the current ongoing development of just 15 properties, is on a site originally refused planning for a new medical centre!. And 200+ houses planned in the current phase, and a local "plan" with more? makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[Captain Pants]

I like to speak S L O W Y so the thick kids can K E E P UP

No need to worry about that, most of us are well ahead of you in so many ways.

 

[Captain Pants]

You, haven`t had the "delights" of dealing with our L-A?. Their So called "planners", couldn't plan a booze up!. The head man has already been the subject of one police investigation!. "lack of evidence"!. Over the last 10 or more years, I have had several "run-ins with both him and his deputy, over being "economical with the truth". His face and body language was a picture, when "we", as a group, defeated the plans for an " Anaerobic Digester" gas plant within 500 yards of the primary school (for one). L-A`s are charged with the provision of "infrastructure", But the fact that the Primary school is already oversubscribed, our surgery tiny, the current ongoing development of just 15 properties, is on a site originally refused planning for a new medical centre!. And 200+ houses planned in the current phase, and a local "plan" with more? makes no sense whatsoever.

The Planning system is fairly inept and corrupt. Big developers inevitably get what they want if they’re prepared to stick it out for the long-term and grind everybody down with smart-arse lawyers, technical challenges, costly appeals plus a few ‘sweeteners’ when necessary. That’s how they work, it’s no hardship for them.

 

[gus-lopez]

They wouldn’t need to to as it’s neither.

they could not understand.

just as i do at home.

and if i moved from pembs to my penthouse in london?

(i am playing devils advocate of course)

before lock down no probs after should be shot.

Why cant people understand whats being said one thousand times a day STAY at home.

I don't like "home". I've never liked home wherever it is/was ,and spend the least time in it as possible. So for me it's a nightmare especially as it is far stricter here. Although I am managing to comply.

 

[Paulypaul]

On the other hand, while they should not have travelled to their second homes after lockdown, provided they are now obeying lockdown would it not be lunacy to insist they travel back to the first home. Would that not be an unnecessary journey.

But thats the point, they are not obeying lockdown, in our village

Good point, actually they would be breaking the laws that some people think have shouldn’t have been broken in the first place!

Which of course weren’t broken if someone chose to lockdown in a 2nd home, prior to the lockdown, and would definitely be broken if hounded out by the burning brand and pitchfork fraternity

A lot are missing the point arent they? As you rightly stated "Prior" is the Key Word ?

It was after lockdown, how do they justify that?

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[Rob Turner]

As we hit, nigh on, 1000 deaths a day in the UK alone perhaps we should implement the more Draconian measures in place elsewhere. If individuals can't understand what this virus is capable of, how it spreads and the risks their actions potentially can have on the human race then we must face the consequences.
What is more important for humanity at large, legislation or common sense?
If that means a "Police State" for a period of time, so be it.
Surely, the most important part of the message is SAVE LIVES.

Common Sense inna very common though.

 

[Louis]

But thats the point, they are not obeying lockdown, in our village



It was after lockdown, how do they justify that?

Yes we know that ?

 

[PeteH]

Even Boris, Who I have a great deal of time for. Is apparently at HIS "holiday home" (Chequers).

 

[Minxy]

If anyone feels strongly about those who are NOT observing 'lockdown' then rather than whinge about it report them ... it isn't just about them or you, it's about the whole of the country's population who could be affected in due course.

If I observed someone consistently doing it then I would report it ... if you have scruples do it!

 

[eddie]

No need to worry about that, most of us are well ahead of you in so many ways.

Glad to have helped

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