Road Tax

[sfrain145]

Hi guys I wanted to start a threat to see the thoughts on this government and how they are looking after us.
We have a little Citroen c1. With zero road tax. And it looks like it’s going up to £195 give or take a year from April.
We have a motorhome and it’s currently £135 per year but it seems as it’s less than three years old and over £40k in values will be hit with the £600 per year tax and then the road tax is going to £105 I think so if my sums are right we are going from £135 per year for both to £1000 a year. Not a bad way of looking after the normal person paying into this system for over 40years. Oh and the electric car we lease will go from zero tax to £195 but that’s not in our budget.

 

[Two on Tour]

Our son has a Tesla & is facing the same situation. He will sorn it for a day before tax is due then retax at the zero rate for another year while he can. At least it will save a few bob.

As I understand it, if you SORN a vehicle online, you cannot re tax online before 5 working days have passed.
What you can do though is re tax at the Post Office as they 'use a different system'.

 

[Northernraider]

Chancellor Rachel Reeves has announced an extra £500m a year for local roads maintenance from next year and an 'interim' settlement for the national network to keep strategic projects moving.

Well at the rate they pay private contractors that'll fix maybe 10 streets.



By fix I mean add speedbumps, maybe a few 20 is plenty road signs , if over 40mph perhaps a speed camera or two. And a cycle lane .





The potholes will remain

 

[BrochMike]

As I understand it, if you SORN a vehicle online, you cannot re tax online before 5 working days have passed.
What you can do though is re tax at the Post Office as they 'use a different system'.

And should probably inform your insurer of changes to taxed status?

 

[Shrimp]

My little Peugeot is going from £0 to £20 next time I tax it-next October.

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[poppycamper]

And should probably inform your insurer of changes to taxed status?

Sorry... not required... you only have to inform them if you also want to cancel /change insurance... sorned vehicles are still insured....

 

[Emmit]

That’s is a negligible amount to be honest. They were talking about £14 billion needed just to fix potholes

There it is.
Reeves got her words wrong.
She talks about black holes when she really she means potholes!

 

[Emmit]

Does anyone know what. phgv will be next year please?

I'll get my Chrystal ball out.
I was fully expecting that to go up last week. I was surprised when it wasn't given how the Budget was targeted at people who were perceived as affluent.

 

[The Wino]

They got to raise OUR taxes to pay the (xx million) per day to keep illegals in accommodation rather than get our ex services personnel off the streets

Rubbish! If they don't have the money to house ex servicemen why was Liz the lettuce prioritising tax cuts for higher rate tax payers? Sadly housing the homeless doesn't figure on the currency that all politicians recognise....votes wheras demonising migrants does.

 

[TDub49]

If people can’t afford to have children then they shouldn’t have them. That’s very different to being to your tax on a vehicle is X only to then later move the goal posts, and increase that amount. Typical UK government.

. . . . and if you can't afford more than one vehicle, you shouldn't have them either. It's all about affordability, innit

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[Langtoftlad]

demonising criminal illegal migrants does

Fixed that for you.

 

[The Wino]

Fixed that for you.

Call them what you like even though the courts have said several times they aren't illegal until the asylum claims are decided. I think a term that describes them perfectly well for the last government is scapegoats for the guillable

 

[Langtoftlad]

courts have said several times they aren't illegal

Are these the same 'courts' that release serious criminals from prison to make way for convicting social media meme makers. Or who let off celebrity paedophiles without a jail sentence

 

[TrudeandDall]

Does anyone know what. phgv will be next year please?

The government website says that all road tax will increase by RPI next april.

Vehicle Excise Duty rates for cars, vans and motorcycles — from 1 April 2025

www.gov.uk

 

[Rapido925M]

Let's ignore international law and join Russia and Belarus: "global" Britain!

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[The Wino]

Are these the same 'courts' that release serious criminals from prison to make way for convicting social media meme makers. Or who let off celebrity paedophiles without a jail sentence

They are independent which extremists ( of all shades) don't like. Last week when they started to say about a cover up on the murderer of the young girls it was almost like people thought if he was a terrorist it excused other thick people terrorising people who looked similar burning buildings attacking police etc. I wonder how many who think that people stirring it on social media ought to be let off actually posted things with hindsight they wish they hadn't?

 

[Langtoftlad]

They are independent which extremists ( of all shades) don't like. Last week when they started to say about a cover up on the murderer of the young girls it was almost like people thought if he was a terrorist it excused other thick people terrorising people who looked similar burning buildings attacking police etc. I wonder how many who think that people stirring it on social media ought to be let off actually posted things with hindsight they wish they hadn't?

Not let off, but being jailed is excessive. Other sanctions are available such as suspended sentences which I'd have thought more appropriate

 

[The Wino]

Not let off, but being jailed is excessive. Other sanctions are available such as suspended sentences which I'd have thought more appropriate

It depends on what message you want to give. I think actually large fines and suspended sentences would probably have been enough except for posts directly encouraging violence against others it could well be that's what people got

 

[tezza-alli]

ROAD TAX question.

So am I correct in thinking, to save a bit for one year ie 2025.
I need to SORN our Aygo car and motorhome on the last day of February 2025 and re-TAX on 1st of March 2025 before the new rates come in giving us another year at old rates?
Doing it that way there's no loss of TAX paid.

 

[Two on Tour]

ROAD TAX question.

So am I correct in thinking, to save a bit for one year ie 2025.
I need to SORN our Aygo car and motorhome on the last day of February 2025 and re-TAX on 1st of March 2025 before the new rates come in giving us another year at old rates?
Doing it that way there's no loss of TAX paid.

I take it that you did not read my earlier post in the thread ?

"As I understand it, if you SORN a vehicle online, you cannot re tax online before 5 working days have passed.
What you can do though is re tax at the Post Office as they 'use a different system'."

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[John Barrett]

 

[poppycamper]

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Struggling to see relevance to Thread Title???

 

[tezza-alli]

I take it that you did not read my earlier post in the thread ?

"As I understand it, if you SORN a vehicle online, you cannot re tax online before 5 working days have passed.
What you can do though is re tax at the Post Office as they 'use a different system'."

Yes, I did see it.
Just getting things clear, not just for me but for all who may be interested and to get things back onto ROAD TAX!
Never liked it being called ROAD FUND as it doesn't go towards that much these days!

 

[PlacidoD]

Are these the same 'courts' that release serious criminals from prison to make way for convicting social media meme makers. Or who let off celebrity paedophiles without a jail sentence

Your post is wildly inaccurate in its assertions:
(1) The Courts have played no role in the early release of prisoners. That was a government decision given that prisons were full to overflowing.
(2) I cannot really think of any instance where courts have "let off celebrity paedophiles without a jail sentence" (There are a number of instances where the CPS has declined to prosecute). Huw Edwards did get a jail sentence for the 3 offences to which he pleaded guilty but it was suspended. In his case the sentencing Court really had its hands tied as the man who supplied the images to Edwards and encouraged him to download them (Alex Williams) had been given a 12 month suspended sentence many months earlier for 7 offences. He would have had a cast iron case on appeal if the sentence had been immediate imprisonment.

P.S. Can we get back to discussing Road Fund Licences!!!

 

[gus-lopez]

courts have said several times they aren't illegal until the asylum claims are decided.

How did they get in "legally" then?

I think a term that describes them perfectly well for the last government is scapegoats for the guillable

No scum is what they are ,unwanted scum

It depends on what message you want to give

They need to be working solely for the people & methods used to ensure that they are held to account when not doing so including execution.

. I think actually large fines and suspended sentences

which no one in his right mind would ever pay.that is why youattend court devoid of any type of id ,money or cards.

except for posts directly encouraging violence against others

Why? It should be encouraged against politicians who lie, cheat, & attempt to do anything but work solely for the people.They are not there to enjoy themselves, live the high life ,just nose to the grindstone & churn ot the work

That was a government decision given that prisons were full to overflowing.

no they are 50% empty if you had all the scum on chain gangs day & night & start repairing the roads. No need for H&S or safety .Save fortunes as well.

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[Puddleduck]

Fags, beer, holidays, petrol and diesel but claimable back for haulage, anything you can choose to manage without but reducing income tax and rates, electric, water, heating so you have more to spend on what you want.

I couldn't live here without some access to private transport as no public transport and 7 miles to a shop. We do own our own house but it has become local authority policy to house people in more rural areas as part of their rural repopulation initiative plus a shortage of rental property in towns.

So petrol or diesel or electric needed for vehicles plus petrol or diesel for the generator when the electric fails in the winter - petrol / diesel are absolute necessities here.

 

[Minxy]

Our son has a Tesla & is facing the same situation. He will sorn it for a day before tax is due then retax at the zero rate for another year while he can. At least it will save a few bob.

As I understand it, if you SORN a vehicle online, you cannot re tax online before 5 working days have passed.
What you can do though is re tax at the Post Office as they 'use a different system'.

Correct.

ROAD TAX question.

So am I correct in thinking, to save a bit for one year ie 2025.
I need to SORN our Aygo car and motorhome on the last day of February 2025 and re-TAX on 1st of March 2025 before the new rates come in giving us another year at old rates?
Doing it that way there's no loss of TAX paid.

So long as you don't mind queuing up at a post office (which does road tax) for ages along with everyone else who's doing the same!

 

[Minxy]

ROAD TAX question.

So am I correct in thinking, to save a bit for one year ie 2025.
I need to SORN our Aygo car and motorhome on the last day of February 2025 and re-TAX on 1st of March 2025 before the new rates come in giving us another year at old rates?
Doing it that way there's no loss of TAX paid.

What you could do is sorn the MH a week before the end of Feb, then sorn the car on 28 Feb. On 1 March tax the MH online and then a few days later tax the car. You'd have to play musical vehicles but only for a few days and save the hassle of going to the post office.

 

[WESTY66]

Back to road tax-
I really struggle with people trying to save a few quid here & their. Anyone who expected to buy an EV then not pay for years fell for the rope-a-dope. Anyone who complains about it going up to 20 quid should be on a bike.
Gov.Uk who thought up 'sorn' ,& any politician who voted for it,should be taken out and garrotted .
Road tax should be solely for repairing roads.Nothing else & should be paid for the year with no additions as to " excessive value " when new .
That is gov.uk scamming to provide money for all sorts of other b*++*cks that are not required.
Same with insurance. automatic renewal with no increases over 5% , no withdrawal from the market for those companies already offering no excessive premiums & anyone without insurance found driving crushed with the vehicle.

Tbh Richard if the road tax was for the roads I don’t think anyone would mind paying it

 

[Whippet93]

I will find it and fire it over lots of stuff on YouTube also. It’s just anoying as this should be to maintain the roads not to pay a Conservative Party debt

If Vehicle exise duty is to be used to pay for roads then no vehicle should be exempt from paying. Having a non polluting (at the vehicle) EV, still needs roads to be maintained. In theory as EVs are heavier than an equivalent petrol/diesel vehicle, they should pay more as they will do more damage to road surfaces. Also millions is spent on providing cycle lanes along roads ( some rarely see a bike) but there is no tax from cycles to cover this.

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[enark]

If Vehicle exise duty is to be used to pay for roads then no vehicle should be exempt from paying. Having a non polluting (at the vehicle) EV, still needs roads to be maintained. In theory as EVs are heavier than an equivalent petrol/diesel vehicle, they should pay more as they will do more damage to road surfaces. Also millions is spent on providing cycle lanes along roads ( some rarely see a bike) but there is no tax from cycles to cover this.

Agree regarding heavy EVs.

But its in everyones interest to cycle safely. So dont think any tax should, or indeed could be charged - how would it be policed? And kids?

Regular cyclists are much healthier and need less maintenance - NHS