Residency / Citizenship in another EU country - How easy or hard?

[Northernraider]

@Freespirit1 sorry for kind of hijacking your thread

 

[Freespirit1]

Not sure if want to do 90 days in moroco but I wouldn't mind going for a few weeks at least
I'd looked to see if there were ferries from there to canaries but doesn't seem to be anything at the minute which is a shame as it's practically opposite.

I’ve just put a 12 month calendar app on my phone on which I record the days spent in the various countries to make it easy to see how many days I have left legally in a particular country - it’s easy then to see how the rolling 12 month period works as @Minxy Girl kindly explained earlier in the thread

 

[Northernraider]

in winter morocco is better than canaries as the islands shelter the agadir area from the winds .
north and south morocco can be very windy . and rainy but agadir area is quite nice .

Will likely be the end of March by the time im hitting gib or thinking about morroco as I want to see as much of Spain as I can

 

[Freespirit1]

@Freespirit1 sorry for kind of hijacking your thread

You haven’t done anything of the sort - it’s all relevant to this thread and options we might need in the future after U.K. leaves the EU

 

[vwalan]

Will likely be the end of March by the time im hitting gib or thinking about morroco as I want to see as much of Spain as I can

morocco is best dec ,jan feb. november can be wet, march can be ery windy and sand storms .
but spain is huge . you will hardly have time to slowly drive down the coast from barcelona . last few years we have taken 5-6 months doing only part of it .
keep the sea on your left take any/every left turn to the sea then turn right . never drive fast and smile and wave at the locals . my mate as been two months just driving from torre de sal to cullera . unfortunately i,m not there this year.

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[vwalan]

because the eu put a tarrif on goods passing through i belive once we leave there will be more direct shipping between morocco,africa and uk. its about cutting tarrifs out . the ferry will be a bonus for the shipping companies . cut out the eu and it opens up africa for us . lots nice places there to visit.

 

[Northernraider]

I’ve just put a 12 month calendar app on my phone on which I record the days spent in the various countries to make it easy to see how many days I have left legally in a particular country - it’s easy then to see how the rolling 12 month period works as @Minxy Girl kindly explained earlier in the thread

I was always planning to return Santander to Portsmouth again but as I've nothing set in stone I guess at the end if need be I can just leave Portugal and drive straight in to France
If I enter Spain 13th Jan and leave end of March that's only 75 days then do moroco for a few weeks then canaries for 90 days that gives me a couple of weeks to play with

Sort of

Jees it's no easy lol

 

[Freespirit1]

I was always planning to return Santander to Portsmouth again but as I've nothing set in stone I guess at the end if need be I can just leave Portugal and drive straight in to France
If I enter Spain 13th Jan and leave end of March that's only 75 days then do moroco for a few weeks then canaries for 90 days that gives me a couple of weeks to play with

Sort of

Jees it's no easy lol

Don’t forget also that you have to ensure you haven’t taken your Motorhome out of the U.K. over 12 months or It will be classified as exported - also you should plan to leave the U.K. immediately after you get your Mot done as an expired one during your travels will as explained earlier make it illegal in Spain and other EU countries and anywhere as far as I am aware.

 

[busby]

To be honest after canaries and Spain..zante would be my next choice to relocate
Property is cheap there I viewed some houses when I was there in may ...but they still get rotten winters and I'm a sun lover hence wanting to relocate somewhere it's sunny all year round

Gran canaria being my no 1 choice but it depends entirely on finding work there

Alicante area I think is my second choice but not been there only seen it on telly so will reserve judgement till I've been

So if anyone knows of any jobs going lol

I think you will love Spain,,BUSBY

 

[Northernraider]

Don’t forget also that you have to ensure you haven’t taken your Motorhome out of the U.K. over 12 months or It will be classified as exported - also you should plan to leave the U.K. immediately after you get your Mot done as an expired one during your travels will as explained earlier make it illegal in Spain and other EU countries and anywhere as far as I am aware.

Yes mot done today but it was done 1 month early so it expires 27th Jan 19
I plan to be back in Scotland for Christmas next year so that will be the latest.
If I should find full time work out there I may have to bring it back earlier and fly back out there.

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[Northernraider]

I think you will love Spain,,BUSBY

I think so too ....i certainly love the canaries and the people.

 

[jumar]

It's very confusing
If I manage to get a job there which I believe means I need residency to do that then how does that affect me with my motorhome as it will be foreign register

Yes mot done today but it was done 1 month early so it expires 27th Jan 19
I plan to be back in Scotland for Christmas next year so that will be the latest.
If I should find full time work out there I may have to bring it back earlier and fly back out there.

One point about work, well two, you do know there is an unemployment problem here in Spain, perhaps you do, point two, you do Speak Spanish.....

 

[Northernraider]

One point about work, well two, you do know there is an unemployment problem here in Spain, perhaps you do, point two, you do Speak Spanish.....

Yes but there's unemployment here in the UK too , I've always managed to find work so I'm hoping I can do the same over there but I won't know till I try.

Si yo appriendo hablar espanol...pero mi no fluente

 

[Geejay]

point two, you do Speak Spanish.....

As the (Spanish) guy on a campsite at Valencia said "they come over here, and after 10 years they can say: "dos cervezas, por favor" ... and that's it.

 

[Northernraider]

As the (Spanish) guy on a campsite at Valencia said "they come over here, and after 10 years they can say: "dos cervezas, por favor" ... and that's it.

ja ja sí muchos ingleses no aprenden español, pero he estado aprendiendo el año pasado. prefiero el vino tinto a la cerveza

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[jumar]

Yes but there's unemployment here in the UK too , I've always managed to find work so I'm hoping I can do the same over there but I won't know till I try.

Si yo appriendo hablar espanol...pero mi no fluente

Que ?

 

[Freespirit1]

ja ja sí muchos ingleses no aprenden español, pero he estado aprendiendo el año pasado. prefiero el vino tinto a la cerveza

sí, ibet tu usando google translate como tengo que hacerlo con mi novia española jajaja

 

[Northernraider]

Que ?

Que es si pregunta?

 

[Northernraider]

sí, ibet tu usando google translate como tengo que hacerlo con mi novia española jajaja

Lol I've been doing highschool classes since the start of February and have a cd learning kit too plus duolingo on my phone

I'm learning but I won't say it's easy ...i can say things but understanding it when someone speaks back is often difficult as it's a very fast language

I'm hoping once I'm over there and using it more that it will become easier

 

[Beacons]

I'm high jacking thread Chris to wish you a happy new year x Jan & Mike .

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[The Wino]

Lol I've been doing highschool classes since the start of February and have a cd learning kit too plus duolingo on my phone

I'm learning but I won't say it's easy ...i can say things but understanding it when someone speaks back is often difficult as it's a very fast language

I'm hoping once I'm over there and using it more that it will become easier

Nothing like having a go the ones who only can order the beers sit with their expat mates all day and don't make the effort.

 

[Northernraider]

Nothing like having a go the ones who only can order the beers sit with their expat mates all day and don't make the effort.

See that's what I don't want....yes it will be nice to meet fellow brits but I want to try and integrate in to the Spanish community I've no desire to always be thought of as a tourist

Even on holiday I like to sample the culture the food and the way of life of places I go ....no desire to feel like I'm at home but with better weather

 

[Yorick]

Just don't go over the 183 days or you will be liable for the Spanish equivalent of income tax.

That's not quite true. I am a resident now, and my Spanish accountant says I have to do a UK tax return in early 2018. They aren't too bothered as long as you are paying tax somewhere.

 

[Yorick]

I have a question. I have now learned that I can't legally drive my camper here now. But can I drive a UK vehicle in UK ?

 

[jumar]

Que es si pregunta?

What......como, I is only alf Spanish.....

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[Northernraider]

What......como, I is only alf Spanish.....

Yer confusing me lol ....im no any Spanish

So there's a good chance it's wrong lol

 

[Snowbird]

That's not quite true. I am a resident now, and my Spanish accountant says I have to do a UK tax return in early 2018. They aren't too bothered as long as you are paying tax somewhere.

Change your accountant, he does not know what he is talking about. If you earn money in Spain, you pay taxes in Spain on those earnings. If you earn money in the UK, you pay UK taxes on them separately. You do NOT pay UK taxes on moneys earned outside the UK.

 

[Yorick]

As the (Spanish) guy on a campsite at Valencia said "they come over here, and after 10 years they can say: "dos cervezas, por favor" ... and that's it.

Bar owners don't care if you are spending money.

 

[Yorick]

Change your accountant, he does not know what he is talking about. If you earn money in Spain, you pay taxes in Spain on those earnings. If you earn money in the UK, you pay UK taxes on them separately. You do NOT pay UK taxes on moneys earned outside the UK.

My accountant is top notch and with all due respect, probably knows more about it than you. I have no Spanish income to pay tax on.

 

[jumartoo]

My accountant is top notch and with all due respect, probably knows more about it than you. I have no Spanish income to pay tax on.

Once resident in Spain you pay all tax in Spain EXCEPT for a GB Government (employed) pension, where you still pay tax in the UK, ie Police, Fire Service, Local Government Officer, etc.

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