Motorhomes market to increase or decrease 2024? (3 Viewers)

[joner8888]

Is a pop top or a highline better if there a nuclear invasion

I think a solid lid us better

Just a thought

As someone from Russia said to me years ago, first we bomb all the pubs , then we bomb all the ferries as they leave, then Spain when they think they are safe.

 

[ontheroadagain]

I think the bubble is bursting

I think so too and not only the second hand market.
The price of motorhomes has risen much higher than the rate of inflation.
A minimum of £80K for a new motorhome now.
Hymer etc have almost nothing below £100K.
There are a limited number of people who are able (or willing) to spend that amount of money on a leisure vehicle/hobby.
Dealers and manufacturers will be forced to cut their profit margins to make sales.
I have already noticed some local dealers starting to reduce prices. One is advertising reductions of up to £8K.

 

[joner8888]

I hope I'm not wrong, I think the bubble is bursting

Well , I want to buy one again.
Buying new say, they can give me of more of a discount than a second hand one. Or, more added extras.
I have a few months to decide, weather or not I'll wait because of seasonal trends , I'll see.

 

[Brains]

Is a pop top or a highline better if there a nuclear invasion

I think a solid lid us better

Just a thought

On the basis that is may be 'home' for several years, I'd go with the highline.

We met a Ukrainian family last summer, living in their caravan, they had been in a skiing holiday in Austria when the country was invaded and have never gone back. (Like many us with the 'UK' plates on the back, they assumed we were Ukrainians as well, so put us together on the site)

History has shown, any one of us could be a refugee overnight due to changes in circumstances beyond our control.
Domestic, personal, house burns down, loose the job or family as well as the usual trelegy of death, war, pestilence and famine.
Like the Pandemic, it's not a question of 'if' but a question of 'when'.

 

[2bob]

iv been looking at the escape 686 not many about second hand

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[joner8888]

When I bought mine resale was never a consideration .bought what I could afford.
Once the money is spent its gone.

I can`t think like that, everyone is different, all the time i have it and use it ,i am worried how it it is devaluing .
I think its great when i have one , but, ..... 3 years later ,what will i get for it now???
Chrematophobia , is a condition what i have.
Google it.
It has made me save a lot in 40 years of self employed.
But i hate to spend or loose.

 

[Guigsy]

I can`t think like that, everyone is different, all the time i have it and use it ,i am worried how it it is devaluing .
I think its great when i have one , but, ..... 3 years later ,what will i get for it now???
Chrematophobia , is a condition what i have.
Google it.
It has made me save a lot in 40 years of self employed.
But i hate to spend or loose.

Most forms of enjoyment cost. It's only money.

 

[Nanniemate]

I can`t think like that, everyone is different, all the time i have it and use it ,i am worried how it it is devaluing .
I think its great when i have one , but, ..... 3 years later ,what will i get for it now???
Chrematophobia , is a condition what i have.
Google it.
It has made me save a lot in 40 years of self employed.
But i hate to spend or loose.

No pockets in a shoud

Never had a lot . Worked hard seen a newer 2nd van asked price nearly died.

Bought a 14 year old van . I'm not precious with it .it does a lot it was not built for including a but of off roading in a fiat

I could never have chrematophibia as I never had any money

 

[joner8888]

Most forms of enjoyment cost. It's only money.

So many people say that to me but if you have to put up with thing I have ,it would drive you mad.
If I have to buy anything I have to drink wine and i say ,you do this. So my Mrs has to click the "buy now" button.
So I don't get involved.

 

[Nanniemate]

So many people say that to me but if you have to put up with thing I have ,it would drive you mad.
If I have to buy anything I have to drink wine and i say ,you do this. So my Mrs has to click the "buy now" button.
So I don't get involved.

You don't have a problem buying wine then

Sorry

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[LillyWales]

We waited a year and they went up £4k-6k

 

[Brains]

So many people say that to me but if you have to put up with thing I have ,it would drive you mad.
If I have to buy anything I have to drink wine and i say ,you do this. So my Mrs has to click the "buy now" button.
So I don't get involved.

I have a mate with, and it drives me mad as well as his family.
You are lucky you have a wife (my mate does not and never will due to his condition)

The simple thing is to simple hand all financial decisions over to her 100%
That way you dont have money and never buy anything.

 

[Chris51]

Obviously nobody but dealers really know, what the market looks like. Personally I would of thought they are at the peak but I don't know how much money others have.

Dont think the dealers know really ...just hoping ?

 

[DerryW]

If you want a van then it’s the risk you take. It’s not just buying the Motorhome. Cost of keeping them is pretty high so basically you will always lose money. With insurance , Hab checks, road tax, tracker subscriptions, servicing etc on a newish van it costs us over £1200 a year just to put it on the drive. Of course you could offload/ reduce some of those costs if the van was older and out of warranty. We get good use from it so are happy to pay that.

Your response was spot on. A lot of people never consider the ongoing cost of ownership before you put a litre of fuel in the tank.

 

[joner8888]

Dont think the dealers know really ...just hoping ?

I have been looking today, strange thing is T line Team Roller second hand prices about £56 to £60k Been quoted for new £55 with warranty.
All seems odd

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[vkr15s]

Sometimes nearly new is more expensive due to the extra items that have been fitted awning tv alarm tracker etc. Make sure you are comparing like for like.

 

[joner8888]

I have a mate with, and it drives me mad as well as his family.
You are lucky you have a wife (my mate does not and never will due to his condition)

The simple thing is to simple hand all financial decisions over to her 100%
That way you dont have money and never buy anything.

I

 

[Tomaz]

As someone from Russia said to me years ago, first we bomb all the pubs , then we bomb all the ferries as they leave, then Spain when they think they are safe.

That is made me chuckle

 

[joner8888]

You don't have a problem buying wine then

Sorry

Well, i don`t buy it , she does but i don`t have problem drinking it.

 

[bobnick]

Go to a new van dealer and he will tell you to buy now as the prices are going up next month.

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[Lenny HB]

If the market is not on the downward trend why is Hymer/ I assume Elddis is reducing workforce by 200,

They manufacture budget vans, it is that section of the market that saw vast increases in sales during the Covid years so not unexpected in that market section.

Decent vans are still on 12 month plus delivery so the price will only be shifting upwards.
The van we have on order is costing us 25k more than I expected to pay, price increases and no discount, first time I've ever paid list price for a van. At least it's on a 2022 fixed price it would have been 33k more at current prices.

 

[CAB96]

Is a pop top or a highline better if there a nuclear invasion

I think a solid lid us better

Just a thought

Just keep the roof down!

 

[CAB96]

I can`t think like that, everyone is different, all the time i have it and use it ,i am worried how it it is devaluing .
I think its great when i have one , but, ..... 3 years later ,what will i get for it now???
Chrematophobia , is a condition what i have.
Google it.
It has made me save a lot in 40 years of self employed.
But i hate to spend or loose.

Why not buy an older van?

A classic Hymer or other continental A class.

Depreciation will be much less, and if you are handy you could even add value.

 

[joner8888]

Why not buy an older van?

A classic Hymer or other continental A class.

Depreciation will be much less, and if you are handy you could even add value.

I

 

[joner8888]

I`m looking now at one not far from me A Rapido 9096 DF 2008 , trying to work out if i can fit a motorbike in the garage with it`s sunken floor, i`m old with a C1 licence.

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[almichie]

Further to my comment on new prices remaining high, hold second hand prices up, it seems a different trend is developing…

Having sold our motorhome, we have been looking for around 2 months at various options. What is becoming more and more apparent is the new 2023 and 2024 stock sat on forecourts. What we are also seeing is up to £10k off new prices, with regular £4-5k mark downs and dealer specials with extended warranty and habitation checks and all sorts thrown in. Our neighbour paid £110k for an Autotrail Frontier which arrived in September, I have just seen one for £93k at Don Amott brand new.

There is also a lot of variability in second hand prices, and it seems to be taking a long time for over £50k to sell, and the models we have been looking at have been for sale for a long time especially private sales. We were offered 10% off over the phone at one dealer, which made me think we could have got more. And with the cost of finance and people going abroad again in a big way I can only think this is going to continue to trend.

Elddis have just laid off 200 people, not surprised with the build quality but still. MBH went pop, and took a bunch of dealers with it. Spinney have bought one site, possibly more.

Some interesting times ahead this year

 

[Lenny HB]

Our neighbour paid £110k for an Autotrail Frontier which arrived in September, I have just seen one for £93k at Don Amott brand new.

Difficult to compare if you don't know the exact spec of both vans, could easily be £15k or more of extras on the £110k van.

I've not not noticed much shift in the prices of decent vans mainly the bottom end of the maker that shifted.

 

[almichie]

Difficult to compare if you don't know the exact spec of both vans, could easily be £15k or more of extras on the £110k van.

I've not not noticed much shift in the prices of decent vans mainly the bottom end of the maker that shifted.

£7,000 off Knaus, £5k off that Frontier, ok lower and mid market but that most of what we buy.

 

[Lenny HB]

£7,000 off Knaus, £5k off that Frontier, ok lower and mid market but that most of what we buy.

No discounts on Carthago's and still a year waiting list on a lot of models.

 

[almichie]

No discounts on Carthago's and still a year waiting list on a lot of models.

Like most high end items they are recession and market proof, to a point. They are lovely, but sadly out of our budget at the moment.

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