Morocco 2015

tremybach said:
Please add us to the list for the 15th, we intend to be in Benidorm for the festive bit, and amble our way down in the new year.
Cheers Ed & Shirley
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Ok, you're in!

Still undecided whether to try and "book" somewhere for us to meet up beforehand. A number of folk look to be just making their way to Algeciras. Thoughts anyone?
 
Please can we come too, on the 15th. Talked about this for the last three years but kinda scared on our own!!!
 
souix said:
Please can we come too, on the 15th. Talked about this for the last three years but kinda scared on our own!!!
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Ok, you're in too.
Uncertainty was the reason we joined in with the group run admirably by Steve and Andrew (RIP) but we quickly found that our fears were totally unfounded. We've spoken to a lot of people about Morocco since who felt the same, which is why I eventually decided to offer a hand to hold. Don't forget to read up on the Morocco 2014 Thread and my notes in Resources.
Look forward to seeing you.

Terry
 
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Thanks so much. Have printed off Taking a MH to morocco v3 from resources and will read every word. Saga,our MH insurer, issue a green card free.

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TerryL said:
Ok, you're in!

Still undecided whether to try and "book" somewhere for us to meet up beforehand. A number of folk look to be just making their way to Algeciras. Thoughts anyone?
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I still haven't booked the crossing yet!! and probably not going to be able to do so until mid December, (family stuff) because of this (and the dog) it's looking more likely we will go via the chunnel sometime between the 6th - 9th Jan' This should give me 5-8 days to drive down to Algeciras, happy to meet up anytime during this journey as I obviously won't be doing it in one hop!!
 
After doing a couple of jobs on the van yesterday went to book ferry for this Wednesday 26th and the price had gone up from £64.50 to £112 ouch so booked a day later Thursday at £64.50.
Looking forward to meeting up in Jan
Dave
 
dabhand said:
I still haven't booked the crossing yet!! and probably not going to be able to do so until mid December, (family stuff) because of this (and the dog) it's looking more likely we will go via the chunnel sometime between the 6th - 9th Jan' This should give me 5-8 days to drive down to Algeciras, happy to meet up anytime during this journey as I obviously won't be doing it in one hop!!
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Steve, Ebony and I are going to Santander on Dec 16th then Portugal and at some point in the new year making our way to Algeciras, have to figure out a stright forward route with a coupla overnights on the way. Steve hasnt worked out the miles/stops yet, again any ideas?
 
souix said:
Steve, Ebony and I are going to Santander on Dec 16th then Portugal and at some point in the new year making our way to Algeciras, have to figure out a stright forward route with a coupla overnights on the way. Steve hasnt worked out the miles/stops yet, again any ideas?
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How far do you want to drive in a day?
We don't like doing more than 2 or 3 hours per day so our normal route down to Algeciras would be as follows:
The A67/A66 motorway takes you straight down through Spain from North to South and you can get to it very easily from Santander. It's a good motorway without any tolls.
First night we usually stop at Palencia. A well organised and laid out aire (free) with nice large bays. (in all the aires book). Nice town
Next is Salamanca where we park very close to the city centre in a car park close to Lidl. Car park is free and there will usually be about 10 vans overnighting. A short walk across the river to the city centre which is worth spending a day in.
Salamanca 40deg 57'27" -5deg 40'38" Calle Buenaventura at Lidl
Next another one from "All the Aires" at Zafra. A tight entrance, a bit of a slope and next to the main road so can be a little noisy until about 10:00pm when the traffic dies down.
From Zafra you could make it to Algeciras but I f you want to break the journey there is an aire in Seville which is by the river and walking distance from the city centre. Seville is another city worth spending a day or two exploring. This is a designated area in a fenced and guarded compound where new cars are stored. Water, grey water and cassette emptying. Free wifi. I can't remember the cost but I think it was 12euros.
Sevilla 41011
Area de Autocaravanas de Sevilla
Avenida Garcia de Morato
N 37.36306 W -5.99462 C

Hope that helps
 
makems said:
How far do you want to drive in a day?
We don't like doing more than 2 or 3 hours per day so our normal route down to Algeciras would be as follows:
The A67/A66 motorway takes you straight down through Spain from North to South and you can get to it very easily from Santander. It's a good motorway without any tolls.
First night we usually stop at Palencia. A well organised and laid out aire (free) with nice large bays. (in all the aires book). Nice town
Next is Salamanca where we park very close to the city centre in a car park close to Lidl. Car park is free and there will usually be about 10 vans overnighting. A short walk across the river to the city centre which is worth spending a day in.
Salamanca 40deg 57'27" -5deg 40'38" Calle Buenaventura at Lidl
Next another one from "All the Aires" at Zafra. A tight entrance, a bit of a slope and next to the main road so can be a little noisy until about 10:00pm when the traffic dies down.
From Zafra you could make it to Algeciras but I f you want to break the journey there is an aire in Seville which is by the river and walking distance from the city centre. Seville is another city worth spending a day or two exploring. This is a designated area in a fenced and guarded compound where new cars are stored. Water, grey water and cassette emptying. Free wifi. I can't remember the cost but I think it was 12euros.
Sevilla 41011
Area de Autocaravanas de Sevilla
Avenida Garcia de Morato
N 37.36306 W -5.99462 C

Hope that helps
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Help!!!! thats brilliant, thanks

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Anybody going to Morocco should have the Vicarious Camping Morocco book.
Its a little out of date but most sites still exist. However I have just discovered that the Vicarious website has a page with updates to the guide which you can print out here:
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Some of you might already know but I didn't.
Hope it is of help to somebody.
 
Hoping to join you on the 15th, if things go according to plan. What is the plan once across - split into smaller groups or everyone do their own thing? Going to be a bit of a convy (rubber duck!) if all stay together.
 
Armytwowheels said:
Hoping to join you on the 15th, if things go according to plan. What is the plan once across - split into smaller groups or everyone do their own thing? Going to be a bit of a convy (rubber duck!) if all stay together.
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Even if travelling "together" to the same destination, do not try and travel in one convoy. Its a nightmare. My advice is to agree on arrival point, mid-point rendezvous if desired and split into groups of three or less.
In any large group there will be people who like to drive fast, some slower and some whose vans just won't go very fast. There are some (like us) who don't like to drive much more than an hour without a break and some who will happily drive 3 or 4 hours without stopping.
Break into small mini convoys and it becomes a lot less frustrating for everybody.
 
Armytwowheels said:
Hoping to join you on the 15th, if things go according to plan. What is the plan once across - split into smaller groups or everyone do their own thing? Going to be a bit of a convy (rubber duck!) if all stay together.
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Agreed. My plan is to gain some knowledge/experience of the ferry crossing and entry procedure, to get set up with MiFi in Asilha then straight down to Marrakesh for a few days before heading further south for consistent warm weather.
 
makems said:
Anybody going to Morocco should have the Vicarious Camping Morocco book.
Its a little out of date but most sites still exist. However I have just discovered that the Vicarious website has a page with updates to the guide which you can print out here:
Broken Link Removed
Some of you might already know but I didn't.
Hope it is of help to somebody.
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I have it with the updates and it will be invaluable. Also purchased the latest Tom Tom map for Moroc and it's come with pre loaded campsites and P.O.I. so quite chuffed about that.

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Another question ! Where exactly is the shop in Alisha for data cards (MiFi) and which card provides best coverage and value for money.
Thanks in Advance.
 
Walk along the front away from town with the sea to your left and look for the satelites on your right.
It is about two roads back.

Maroc telecom. 100dh (£7) for one month unlimited interweb.

Make sure you take your device into the shop and have it working before you leave.
Allow up to 3 hours!
 
Dazzlin said:
Walk along the front away from town with the sea to your left and look for the satelites on your right.
It is about two roads back.

Maroc telecom. 100dh (£7) for one month unlimited interweb.

Make sure you take your device into the shop and have it working before you leave.
Allow up to 3 hours!
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Brill! Thanks very much! Don't you just love this Forum!
 
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Dazzlin said:
Walk along the front away from town with the sea to your left and look for the satelites on your right.
It is about two roads back.

Maroc telecom. 100dh (£7) for one month unlimited interweb.

Make sure you take your device into the shop and have it working before you leave.
Allow up to 3 hours!
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Great advise. Are you in Maroc now, I am sure you owe us a drinking session after Malvern!:wine:
 
Armytwowheels said:
Hoping to join you on the 15th, if things go according to plan. What is the plan once across - split into smaller groups or everyone do their own thing? Going to be a bit of a convoy (rubber duck!) if all stay together.
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I've added you to the list for 15th. Agree totally with Makems, big convoys can be a nightmare. We'll make sure you've got half an idea of where we're going!

In due course I'll put together a list of useful coordinates and post it on here.

Philippft said:
Another question ! Where exactly is the shop in Alisha for data cards (MiFi) and which card provides best coverage and value for money. Thanks in Advance.
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Co-ords for that too but I suppose almost everybody will want to go so just join the crowd! This year Steve (Tonka) was there for over 2 hours but by the time I got there the guys in the shop had it all worked out and got me sorted in 10mins.

Dazzlin said:
Crossing over 15 dec.
Up for a drinkie if you can find us!
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When you get across it'd be a great help if you could post your experiences of the latest entry procedures at Tanger-Med and I'll sort out a drinkie! Now, is that fire-engine coloured thing with a dent in the back Dazzlin (oops sorry, you got that repaired in Tagazhoute didn't you?).................:whistle:

Philippft said:
I have it with the updates and it will be invaluable. Also purchased the latest Tom Tom map for Moroc and it's come with pre loaded campsites and P.O.I. so quite chuffed about that.
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How much was the TomTom map? Might get it myself. Last time I managed with a workaround I found for my Garmin which helped but not many roads on it. I've now "inherited" a TomTom Go1005 which I'm starting to get used to.(y)

TerryL
 
We had our Ipads loaded with the TT map app. You must make sure it is the Wifi & 3G version as this is the only version that has the built in GPS. The wifi only version will not give you your current location.

By buying the one TT app I could load the map on the different Ipads just in case one of them started to play up..... it has happened in the past.

The sim from the Maroc shop will come with a code that you will need to input to use the sim. You will also need the APN settings for Maroc i.e. the settings needed to pickup mobile internet. I helped a couple of people set up their internet last year. Happy to do the same if I am around at the same time. Here is a link that might help

http://wiki.apnchanger.org/Morocco

Colin
 
As per Colin's previous post, we also bought The iPad App and found it satisfactory. Just wished they did Maroc for Snooper because with the TT App, we went down some roads Id never go down again, even if I had a four wheel drive off road frigging moon buggy.
:):( :eek::eek::eek:

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canopus said:
As per Colin's previous post, we also bought The iPad App and found it satisfactory. Just wished they did Maroc for Snooper because with the TT App, we went down some roads Id never go down again, even if I had a four wheel drive off road frigging moon buggy.
:):( :eek::eek::eek:
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We have a Garmin with Moroccan maps but we also follow the route carefully with the Michelin map. Sometimes we decide not to follow the sat nav if it wants to take us down a white squiggly road. Sometimes of course there is no option.
We had two nightmares last winter one of which involved driving almost 40km on a piste road that just about shook the van to pieces (and I still haven't got all the dust out of the lockers).
The other was where what had Ben a decent but narrow Tarmac road gradually deteriorated to the point where there were just occasional lumps of Tarmac sticking up between the potholes.
On a third occasion Tarmac ran out and it was on to piste again. As we hadn't gone far we decided to turn round and go a different (much longer) way.
In all cases The map showed the roads should have been OK so there is no way of avoiding the possibility of bad roads except speaking to fellow travellers who have been down the route you are thinking about.
Despite all the above, most Moroccan A roads are OK although some can be rough and you need to be continually alert for potholes.
Just take it easy and you will be OK
 
canopus said:
As per Colin's previous post, we also bought The iPad App and found it satisfactory. Just wished they did Maroc for Snooper because with the TT App, we went down some roads Id never go down again, even if I had a four wheel drive off road frigging moon buggy.
:):(:):) :eek::eek::eek:
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You best follow me then, cos' I'm taking MY four wheel drive off road frigging moon buggy. Second thought, think I'll just follow in your dust mate!:):D:LOL:
 
makems said:
We have a Garmin with Moroccan maps but we also follow the route carefully with the Michelin map. Sometimes we decide not to follow the sat nav if it wants to take us down a white squiggly road. Sometimes of course there is no option.
We had two nightmares last winter one of which involved driving almost 40km on a piste road that just about shook the van to pieces (and I still haven't got all the dust out of the lockers).
The other was where what had Ben a decent but narrow Tarmac road gradually deteriorated to the point where there were just occasional lumps of Tarmac sticking up between the potholes.
On a third occasion Tarmac ran out and it was on to piste again. As we hadn't gone far we decided to turn round and go a different (much longer) way.
In all cases The map showed the roads should have been OK so there is no way of avoiding the possibility of bad roads except speaking to fellow travellers who have been down the route you are thinking about.
Despite all the above, most Moroccan A roads are OK although some can be rough and you need to be continually alert for potholes.
Just take it easy and you will be OK
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Just watch out for the Grand Taxis coming at you at speed. As you are not in any hurry go cautiously. We are looking forward to returning this year and spending longer in the sunshine.

Colin
 
So that's it then, we need a " Roads to avoid list" start posting then we can cut and paste into one list!

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