More grief about motorhomes

[Ivory55]

For me it's more to do with not wanting to spend 2 weeks or whatever in the same place , I like moving around and just playing it day by day without having to organise.
I just never understand why some people are so narrow minded and think that all humans want to do the same things in life.

Lots of people have had what they thought was ok curtailed, I guess as the population grows more and more will be curtailed.

 

[SpeedyDux]

Here we go again... same old, same old...

Folk who think the only way to "use" their motorhomes is to drive them to a campsite, park up (where told to) and sit outside them "camping" don't seem to understand what motorhoming can be all about...

JJ

The world of motorhoming has changed as a consequence of the Coronavirus. I respect your nostalgia about what motorhoming can be all about, but the problem is the growing number of Covidiots who don't give a fig about the environment, and are hammering more nails into the coffin of wild camping. There is a risk of such a backlash against wild camping that the government will legislate to make it a criminal offence on public health grounds as well as prevention of vigilantism.

Meanwhile we will carry on using campsites, if pitches are available where we want to go, which is our current problem. A big IF.

 

[Trev45]

I am at my favourite near to home bolt hole.at least 3 MH have been parked in the no overnighting parking area for a week at least another 7 have joined them. One said the fine if it came was 1 night on a campsite. Interesting logic

I think that is a similar logic to that used by the ' travelling ' community . This ' I will park where I like ' mentality will only alienate local communities more indeed with a noticeable move by travellers into motorhomes I can only see things getting worse.

 

[Bart]

Coolcats & Ivory55 I guess it's about time the UK government got off their asses then and made more Aires just like in France & Spain

 

[Otter Spotter]

Visited a tradesman last week who told us his mates who are all mountain bikers were furloughed, and they just packed their vans up and cleared off the Scotland and have not been seen since but guess what, they are having a whale of a time on 80% pay little expense and just spending their time biking and making a mess.
Tossers.

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[nicholsong]

Going back to the NC500 permit idea.

Ignoring the difficulties of bringing in the primary and secondary legislation and authorising a body to issue it, there are practical difficulties.

How many days would it be issued for? For a year?

How many would be allowed for any period of days?

What vehicles would it cover? MHs, Campervans, van conversions, cars with tents, cars without?

Then how would it be policed?

Once set up who continues to pay for the whole thing when NC500 goes out of fashion?

Geoff

 

[Peatmoor]

Why not send them comment suggesting they develop facilities rather than moaning about it ... I just did ...link to their contract page here, really easy to do ...

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I have responded to Minehead Council, asking them to embrace motorhomers. I urge all Funsters to do the same

 

[Ernesto]

People spend 20-100K on a MoHo and then begrudge spending a few quid in campsite fees does not make sense.

We've all been to Europe I'm guessing..... And seen the rampant popularity of Aires and the equivalents in Germany, Italy etc etc? I dont see why is it different here.

I very much doubt the campsites in Minehead would be able to cope either on their own. Ultimately I realise Aires won't solve the entire problem either, but the point is Minehead is a tourist destination, and people enjoy Vans - so I reckon they need to find a way to embrace it.

 

[Ivory55]

Coolcats & Ivory55 I guess it's about time the UK government got off their asses then and made more Aires just like in France & Spain

Like I already said I love people who want to spend other people’s money, unless of course you know that there really is a money tree

 

[Ernesto]

Like I already said I love people who want to spend other people’s money, unless of course you know that there really is a money tree

You've lost me with this one. Last time I went to Minehead, all it had was the seaside. I suspect, like many UK seaside towns, its dependent on handouts from central Government, and there aren't that many employment opportunities. So embracing and welcoming people who want to holiday there would seem to be a no brainer.
Take the tourists money, and spend it on local facilities and jobs for the young - its about being commercial

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[Ivory55]

You've lost me with this one. Last time I went to Minehead, all it had was the seaside. I suspect, like many UK seaside towns, its dependent on handouts from central Government, and there aren't that many employment opportunities. So embracing and welcoming people who want to holiday there would seem to be a no brainer.
Take the tourists money, and spend it on local facilities and jobs for the young - its about being commercial

Flogged that one to death. Motorhome owners are tight and don’t spend and if they did it would not benefit me so why on earth would I want to pay tax so that you can enjoy yourself on a free pitch.

 

[JJ]

The world of motorhoming has changed as a consequence of the Coronavirus. I respect your nostalgia about what motorhoming can be all about, but the problem is the growing number of Covidiots who don't give a fig about the environment, and are hammering more nails into the coffin of wild camping. There is a risk of such a backlash against wild camping that the government will legislate to make it a criminal offence on public health grounds as well as prevention of vigilantism.

Meanwhile we will carry on using campsites, if pitches are available where we want to go, which is our current problem. A big IF.

Yeah yeah... if you say so...

Ever since I have been motorhoming in Portugal, people have been telling me that "off site parking" is illegal but no one has arrested me or even asked me to move on... in twenty years.

I use my van differently to you.

"Nostalgia"? I still doing it today...

JJ

 

[Ernesto]

Flogged that one to death. Motorhome owners are tight and don’t spend and if they did it would not benefit me so why on earth would I want to pay tax so that you can enjoy yourself on a free pitch.

It would benefit you if you were a Minehead resident. The cost could be covered from local taxation as they are the ones who would benefit. And Aires don't have to be free.

 

[Ivory55]

It would benefit you if you were a Minehead resident. The cost could be covered from local taxation as they are the ones who would benefit. And Aires don't have to be free.

You do have some queer ideas of what people would pay and should pay for. If you think it’s such a good idea why not put the money up and see the pay back. It’s easy when you’re spending other people’s money.

 

[Ernesto]

This thread has been turned into a wild camping versus campsites argument again. The original posts were not about that.

This is about resorts and tourist destinations providing suitably sized, Aire-like facilities, so that they have somewhere that can accommodate tourists in vans, without overwhelming their local facilities. Its up to them whether they charge a small fee to cover costs, or use the tourist revenue to cover it. Its not meant to change the wild-campers into site users.

You do have some queer ideas of what people would pay and should pay for. If you think it’s such a good idea why not put the money up and see the pay back. It’s easy when you’re spending other people’s money.

Yep - me and the whole of Northern (and Southern) Europe it seems....

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[Jimbohorlicks]

There is a new post on face ache that the Scarborough council have put up a no overnight sign on the sealife centre car park. Aoparantly there were lots of vans having a wild party till the early hours and it was the last straw, as it were. Now banned overnighting.

 

[mikeandmary]

True ..dont disagree, but the complete lack of simple, cheap, aire-like spaces in the UK is contributory factor. If we're restricted to expensive fully equipped campsites or free-loading, with nothing in between, its not surprising that people are behaving this way

Only problem with that excellent idea is that they will be filled by the travelling community and all their rubbish for ever, until they are moved on, which takes forever because of their human rights. So forget that idea.

 

[Rumour and Innuendo]

Every time this sort of post comes up, the same tired old "It ain't us, it's them" or "We need aires" or "Why don't they provide facilities" get posted! So what is it about buying a motorhome, campervan or old transit with a mattress in the back gives you rights to free holidays? All land is owned and without landowner permission, you shouldn't be parking up for the night.

It beggars belief that a lot on here are quite prepared to annoy just so they can have "their" cheap or free break! Well, here is the latest news.... Motorhomers et-al do not spend lots of money! They are self contained so can provide all their own meals. They have their own accommodation so they don't use local sites or hotels. They park up in prime places for even one day and they block that space that cars usually occupy for just four hours.

Each car with just two people would bring in more that a motorhome with four! Four changes of car, eight people in those cars. All having to have accommodation, food, drink and toilets. Motorhomers buying at Lidl or Aldi, cooking their own food. Paying nearly nothing into the local economy! I have no doubt the protesters will come back with "We spend massive amounts" in these places, but in reality, they don't. I even remember one place that was close due to action by the local shopkeepers because motorhome owners were blocking the few parking spaces from their customers.

We are not the great saviours of the economy, nor are we France with masses of room and a different land ownership!

 

[Ernesto]

Only problem with that excellent idea is that they will be filled by the travelling community and all their rubbish for ever, until they are moved on, which takes forever because of their human rights. So forget that idea.

That is a problem ... and that needs solving too. Maybe if they started to threaten the viability of a thriving tourist trade by doing that, there would be more incentive to sort the problem once and for all.

 

[Lenny HB]

People spend 20-100K on a MoHo and then begrudge spending a few quid in campsite fees does not make sense.

Here we go again another holy than thou must use a camp site brigade.
Some of us just don't like camp sites, we would much rather be in a nice wild spot or on an Aire, much more relaxing.
Even if you are going to to use site in the UK most require pre-booking which defeats the object of traveling in a Motorhome, we never know where we are going to be the next day never mind next week.

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[lamyj]

Done

 

[Rumour and Innuendo]

Yeah yeah... if you say so...

Ever since I have been motorhoming in Portugal, people have been telling me that "off site parking" is illegal but no one has arrested me or even asked me to move on... in twenty years.

I use my van differently to you.

"Nostalgia"? I still doing it today...

JJ

If you are parking up where you are told not to, you are part of the problem! But of course, Portugal is not the UK!! (In case you haven't noticed)

 

[Lenny HB]

Each car with just two people would bring in more that a motorhome with four! Four changes of car, eight people in those cars. All having to have accommodation, food, drink and toilets. Motorhomers buying at Lidl or Aldi, cooking their own food. Paying nearly nothing into the local economy! I have no doubt the protesters will come back with "We spend massive amounts" in these places, but in reality, they don't. I even remember one place that was close due to action by the local shopkeepers because motorhome owners were blocking the few parking spaces from their customers.

That is a very biased view, if we stop somewhere for free or low cost we often eat out, if we have to pay more than a few Euro to stop we don't eat out. Simple economics for pensioners.

 

[mikebeaches]

We've all been to Europe I'm guessing..... And seen the rampant popularity of Aires and the equivalents in Germany, Italy etc etc? I dont see why is it different here.

I very much doubt the campsites in Minehead would be able to cope either on their own. Ultimately I realise Aires won't solve the entire problem either, but the point is Minehead is a tourist destination, and people enjoy Vans - so I reckon they need to find a way to embrace it.

Surprise, surprise - the C&CC site in Minehead is closed for the 2020 season!

Doesn't exactly help the situation there does it...

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[Ernesto]

Every time this sort of post comes up, the same tired old "It ain't us, it's them" or "We need aires" or "Why don't they provide facilities" get posted! So what is it about buying a motorhome, campervan or old transit with a mattress in the back gives you rights to free holidays? All land is owned and without landowner permission, you shouldn't be parking up for the night.

It beggars belief that a lot on here are quite prepared to annoy just so they can have "their" cheap or free break! Well, here is the latest news.... Motorhomers et-al do not spend lots of money! They are self contained so can provide all their own meals. They have their own accommodation so they don't use local sites or hotels. They park up in prime places for even one day and they block that space that cars usually occupy for just four hours.

Each car with just two people would bring in more that a motorhome with four! Four changes of car, eight people in those cars. All having to have accommodation, food, drink and toilets. Motorhomers buying at Lidl or Aldi, cooking their own food. Paying nearly nothing into the local economy! I have no doubt the protesters will come back with "We spend massive amounts" in these places, but in reality, they don't. I even remember one place that was close due to action by the local shopkeepers because motorhome owners were blocking the few parking spaces from their customers.

We are not the great saviours of the economy, nor are we France with masses of room and a different land ownership!

Well thats a view .... forcefully put.

I realise I must have been gassed and robbed whilst I was in France last week - all the money I spent in restaurants, local food shops, local campsites, historical sites... must have been a dream.

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[Rumour and Innuendo]

That is a very biased view, if we stop somewhere for free or low cost we often eat out, if we have to pay more than a few Euro to stop we don't eat out. Simple economics for pensioners.

I am sure this post is about the UK! Europe is a whole different thing as they have the land and provide aires!

 

[Silver-Fox]

just spending their time biking and making a mess.
Tossers.

Why or how are they making a mess

 

[125BEER]

Done!

Done

 

[Rumour and Innuendo]

Well thats a view .... forcefully put.

I realise I must have been gassed and robbed whilst I was in France last week - all the money I spent in restaurants, local food shops, local campsites, historical sites... must have been a dream.

Might be a good idea if you actually read the post? It is about the UK! But maybe you just wanted to be part of it!

But if you spent in campsites, then this is not about you! But of course I guessed people like you with nothing to add would come back just to join in! What people like you fail to think of it car drivers do that as well, plus they pay for accommodation! AND they have to eat out!

 

[Bart]

Flogged that one to death. Motorhome owners are tight and don’t spend and if they did it would not benefit me so why on earth would I want to pay tax so that you can enjoy yourself on a free pitch.

Lol you say that like you are high and almighty and are the only one here who pays taxes..........

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