MOBY GOES TO TURKEY. A tam and pups adventure. (3 Viewers)

[pagey]

The drive up the west coast was good but the drivers are maniacs

 

[Northernraider]

The drive up the west coast was good but the drivers are maniacs

Yes they sit right on your arse and feel the need to overtake .. then 2 minutes later they pull in to a layby or coffee shop etc .. everytime I've had an idiot fly past me recklessly I've either been right behind them at the next traffic lights or I've passed them because they've pulled over for something....it has to be just an adrenaline rush they're after or something as it's utterly pointless. And the road system is mental ...there's very little merge lane to join the main roads so you've got cars pulling out in front of you etc. It's just madness. And the truck drivers are the worst. You'd think they'd appreciate larger slower vehicles needing to slow down for curves etc but no they're right up your arse too

Mental... I'm curious how many deaths on Italian roads

 

[TinaLes]

Having been to Sicily a couple of times and fell in love with the place, the food, the culture etc, no way would I take the MH though as the roads into the villages & towns narrow considerably, with not much chance to do a U turn in many. How those buses & coaches navigate the steep roads with tight hairpin bends is also an education when you stay or visit Taormina in particular they need the full width of the road on the tight bends.
The ideal sized car would have to be something small & narrow like a Fiat Uno, or 500, but a scooter or motor bike would be best as you can get it parked easily.
They have tolls also on all the main routes arround the island which you may need a tag for, but we took the buses and trains to get arround the place.
I had a 15 year gap between visits could not believe how places like Messina had changed, once it was a lovely place with cruise ships visiting, and it had a beautiful landscaped promenade near the harbour, white marble benches and exotic trees & shrubs, with great places to visit. On my return however I nearly cried at seeing the mess it has become, no more cruise ships may be a reason, but there was litter everywhere, and graffiti on walls, the marble benches had been smashed or nicked, and the landscaped promenade was just broken slabs & weeds. The roads were strewn with parked cars, even on the bends in the cities, and they all take no notice of give way lines, or any order on roundabouts, plus using their horn is like changing gear to them.
Bloody Shame the way the worlds going.
PS: there were loads of MH's there though, they must trust their sat navs on van size a lot more then I ever could, plus most stay on sites for long periods to get a reasonable rate.
LES

 

[Northernraider]

Left rimmini this morning and when I put the coordinates for the vets in the satnav it originally told me 3 hours 9 minutes. Google had said 2 hours 35 minutes but anyway satnav said arrival time 12.37 ....so off we went . We'll as usual Italy one big traffic jam , and we eventually arrived at 13.25 ... and of course the vet closed at 1pm till 4pm lol . So I'm sat In the carpark. Going to have some lunch and just wait till they reopen. I'd sent an email last night but got no reply . So will see what they say in person. I'm hoping they can do it as it would save the hassle in winter having it done in Spain.. I wasted a lot of time last year waiting 2 x 3 weeks for results so it would be great to know its all sorted. And hopefully if she can do it that it's not way dearer than I paid last time. Spain was €160 per dog ....Greece wanted €260

If she can do it I will email christian marks and see if he can copy the results in to the passport when he's doing the worming etc .

 

[Langtoftlad]

Mental... I'm curious how many deaths on Italian roads

In 2021, 2,875 people died in road accidents in Italy, an increase compared to the previous year. This statistic breaks down this figure by region where the accidents happened. The one with the highest number of fatal road crashes was Lombardy, in the north of Italy, with 357 deaths

Drive safe

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[TinaLes]

I think regardless of what car, even old wreck, Italian men under 40 drive, they all want to be driving in an F1 Ferrari. Driving from home to work must be like a qualifying lap each day, trying to trim 2/10ths of a second off yesterdays time.
They are just nuts.
LES

 

[Langtoftlad]

Warming to the theme - Italy is above the average number of EU deaths but by no means the worst.

Rate per million population	% change 2022 in relation to:
	2019	2020	2021	2022	2021	2019	Average 2017-19
EU-27	51	42	45	46	3%	-10%	-11%
Belgium	56	43	45	52	16%	-7%	-3%
Bulgaria	90	67	81	78	-5%	-15%	-17%
Czechia	58	48	50	50	-1%	-15%	-15%
Denmark	34	28	22	26	18%	-23%	-15%
Germany	37	33	31	34	9%	-8%	-12%
Estonia	39	44	41	38	-9%	-4%	-10%
Ireland	29	30	27	31	14%	11%	9%
Greece	64	54	57	58	1%	-11%	-13%
Spain	37	29	32	36	12%	-2%	-5%
France	50	39	45	49	11%	0%	-2%
Croatia	73	58	72	71	-6%	-7%	-13%
Italy	53	40	49	53	9%	-2%	-5%
Cyprus	59	54	50	42	-16%	-27%	-26%
Latvia	69	73	78	60	-24%	-15%	-19%
Lithuania	67	63	53	43	-19%	-35%	-35%
Luxembourg	36	42	38	40	8%	18%	-6%
Hungary	62	47	56	56	-1%	-10%	-13%
Malta	32	21	17	50	189%	63%	47%
Netherlands	34	30	29	35	20%	4%	7%
Austria	47	39	41	41	2%	-11%	-11%
Poland	77	66	59	51	-14%	-34%	-33%
Portugal	67	52	54	63	16%	-5%	-2%
Romania	96	85	92	86	-8%	-12%	-14%
Slovenia	49	38	54	40	-25%	-17%	-14%
Slovakia	50	45	45	46	0%	-8%	-8%
Finland	38	40	41	34	-16%	-10%	-18%
Sweden	22	20	20	21	5%	0%	-17%
Switzerland	22	26	23	31	35%	44%	25%
Norway	20	17	15	23	55%	15%	16%
Iceland	17	22	24	24	0%	50%	-33%

Italy 53/million
Bulgaria 78/million -

UK 25/million [2023]

 

[Northernraider]

Failing miserably with the vet ... office still not open ,tried the number get message in Italian I don't understand, try mobile number get told its inactive. Tried phoning 2 other vets get message in Italian.

I'm glad it's not a feckin emergency but I'm not sure what to do now .

 

[pagey]

Yes they sit right on your arse and feel the need to overtake .. then 2 minutes later they pull in to a layby or coffee shop etc .. everytime I've had an idiot fly past me recklessly I've either been right behind them at the next traffic lights or I've passed them because they've pulled over for something....it has to be just an adrenaline rush they're after or something as it's utterly pointless. And the road system is mental ...there's very little merge lane to join the main roads so you've got cars pulling out in front of you etc. It's just madness. And the truck drivers are the worst. You'd think they'd appreciate larger slower vehicles needing to slow down for curves etc but no they're right up your arse too

Mental... I'm curious how many deaths on Italian roads

They have to be first I bet that pis£es off their girlfriends

 

[Phill D]

Failing miserably with the vet ... office still not open ,tried the number get message in Italian I don't understand, try mobile number get told its inactive. Tried phoning 2 other vets get message in Italian.

I'm glad it's not a feckin emergency but I'm not sure what to do now .

Go for a coffee and ask the waiter to translate the message

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[Northernraider]

Go for a coffee and ask the waiter to translate the message

I've given up .. I need to find somewhere to park and walk the dogs .. looks like I won't be finding a vet here.

 

[Red Sonja]

Left rimmini this morning and when I put the coordinates for the vets in the satnav it originally told me 3 hours 9 minutes. Google had said 2 hours 35 minutes but anyway satnav said arrival time 12.37 ....so off we went . We'll as usual Italy one big traffic jam , and we eventually arrived at 13.25 ... and of course the vet closed at 1pm till 4pm lol . So I'm sat In the carpark. Going to have some lunch and just wait till they reopen. I'd sent an email last night but got no reply . So will see what they say in person. I'm hoping they can do it as it would save the hassle in winter having it done in Spain.. I wasted a lot of time last year waiting 2 x 3 weeks for results so it would be great to know its all sorted. And hopefully if she can do it that it's not way dearer than I paid last time. Spain was €160 per dog ....Greece wanted €260

If she can do it I will email christian marks and see if he can copy the results in to the passport when he's doing the worming etc .

I'm sure Christian will get able to do it. He is a very strange man but I love him. He has a very strange sense of humor. Cheapest vet for worming we've ever used.

 

[Northernraider]

I'm sure Christian will get able to do it. He is a very strange man but I love him. He has a very strange sense of humor. Cheapest vet for worming we've ever used.

Yes he seemed nice enough just a very weird sense of humour . And as you say very cheap. €8 per dog he charged me last time. I got charged €87 for 2 dogs in France the year before

 

[Northernraider]

Anyway I've finally got hold of the vet here not the one Paul used but her partner. She's going to take blood at 19.50

 

[Northernraider]

I just hope she doesn't slap me with a huge cost as I did ask how much but she said she couldn't remember as not something they do every day

But she will tell me when I take blu in at 7.50

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[Northernraider]

I'm tempted just to spend the night in this carpark.

 

[Northernraider]

I'm sure Christian will get able to do it. He is a very strange man but I love him. He has a very strange sense of humor. Cheapest vet for worming we've ever used.

I've sent him an email anyway to ask ... hopefully it's OK but maybe best to ask first just incase.

 

[Langtoftlad]

Google translate is very helpful

...but I think you use it anyway.

 

[Northernraider]

It's been cloudy and cooler today which has been most welcome. Dogs have enjoyed it too ... no constant panting etc. I think tomorrow is much the same then it's back to 30° . I was speaking to a local just now who says this is the coldest summer in his life.... hes 26 lol
i told him i was suffering

Google translate is very helpful

...but I think you use it anyway.

Aye but it's no good on recorded phone messages.


This vet did speak a fair bit of English but still a few misunderstanding. I thought she said 7.50 but it was apparently 7.15 , blood has been taken now but after she did it then she informs me she's not sure how the application is done for someone not living in Italy so has to ask a colleague tomorrow, I suggested she speak to.the other vet silvia but she says they don't work together only in the Same building .. I goy the impression they don't get on . .. and she uses a different laboratory from the other vet it seems. So I'm just hoping it all works out ... I don't know how I always manage to overcomplicate things but I do . It cost €150. , no receipt or invoice lol.

 

[Northernraider]

Oh and I weighed blu .... 21.75kg .. she's now the same weight as ela . Bloody horse lol

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[Northernraider]

Lovely pleasant 16° tonight and we had a good bit of rain earlier.. have to say its lovely. Looking forward to a night's sleep without sweating like a priest in a borstal. Will see if this vet has any more questions in the morning and I'll get a receipt for my payment just incase then we will head off oop north.

The little news flash things on my phone just reminded me that the election is tomorrow... and that Labour looks set to clean up. And Scotland is on a knife edge... well its better than what's in power now and better than farage i guess.

So the country should be all sorted by the time I get back next month.

Lovely.

Have to say though Jonathan pie should definitely get a job for the BBC lol

Could you imagine this while having yer tea

 

[Minxy]

Oh and I weighed blu .... 21.75kg .. she's now the same weight as ela . Bloody horse lol

Look on the bright side ... she's still smaller than a or a ... for now anyway!

 

[Minxy]

Hey Tam, if you want to let your frustration out just call the idiotic Italians 'stupido' (male) or 'stupida' (female) ... I used the former when we were in Italy, I didn't know what the correct word was so just made it up by adding 'o' to the end of 'stupid' and using an Italian accent ... turned out it was a real word!

A few more for you to use as appropriate ... ... I particularly like 'credino'.

 

[Dutch 68]

Lovely pleasant 16° tonight and we had a good bit of rain earlier.. have to say its lovely. Looking forward to a night's sleep without sweating like a priest in a borstal. Will see if this vet has any more questions in the morning and I'll get a receipt for my payment just incase then we will head off oop north.

The little news flash things on my phone just reminded me that the election is tomorrow... and that Labour looks set to clean up. And Scotland is on a knife edge... well its better than what's in power now and better than farage i guess.

So the country should be all sorted by the time I get back next month.

Lovely.

Have to say though Jonathan pie should definitely get a job for the BBC lol

Could you imagine this while having yer tea

Fabulous, one of his better ones, and so very true, all parties should just have used this one as their election promotional video

 

[Northernraider]

Fabulous, one of his better ones, and so very true, all parties should just have used this one as their election promotional video

He used to do satire now he just speaks the truth lol.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[Northernraider]

Right 09.20 here and neither of the vets have turned up ... so I'm going to head off. I think/hope the vet has everything she needs from me I'm just a little concerned that she didn't seem sure what to do and has to ask someone. In hindsight I should have just waited and saw the other vet this morning . I find it a little weird that they both work out of the same practice but don't communicate with each other... ..so I'm just hoping I don't get a call in a day or two telling me some legislation prevents her from doing it because I don't live in Italy or something...or worse still I hear nothing at all as basically I paid her €150 cash and got no receipt, invoice or anything lol. She just took the blood and my details and photos of blu's passport etc .

I may be worrying unnecessarily as I often do. Hopefully all goes smooth.

My email to Dr Christian marks got returned undelivered so I will have to try and phone him instead.

The problem with these tests is none of the vets I've dealt with seem to do them very often so it feels like I'm telling them how it's done rather than them telling me.

Anyway I'm heading north towards lake garda but not actually to lake garda as I imagine that will be hell this time of year .

 

[Northernraider]

Ah as luck would have it ...the other vet has now Turned up. I had a wee word but she has a patient so I'm just waiting till he's finished. I'm going to ask her if she could tell the other vet what she did with Paul's dogs and that might make things easier.

 

[chaser]

Ah as luck would have it ...the other vet has now Turned up. I had a wee word but she has a patient so I'm just waiting till he's finished. I'm going to ask her if she could tell the other vet what she did with Paul's dogs and that might make things easier.

That's good, I was just going to post , I wouldn't leave till you had it sorted.

 

[Northernraider]

Just spoke to silvia de boni lovely woman very happy to help, she spoke with other vet on phone and it seems the concern was with payment as she has to prove where it came from and without Italian address that's apparently complicated but all sorted now I believe and receipt will be sent by email along with results etc .


Somehow though she thinks I'm Paul and I was here before ...but too complicated to explain otherwise.


So hopefully have results next week by email .. we will see


Right it's getting warm so we are off

 

[NicandJay]

Lovely pleasant 16° tonight and we had a good bit of rain earlier.. have to say its lovely. Looking forward to a night's sleep without sweating like a priest in a borstal. Will see if this vet has any more questions in the morning and I'll get a receipt for my payment just incase then we will head off oop north.

The little news flash things on my phone just reminded me that the election is tomorrow... and that Labour looks set to clean up. And Scotland is on a knife edge... well its better than what's in power now and better than farage i guess.

So the country should be all sorted by the time I get back next month.

Lovely.

Have to say though Jonathan pie should definitely get a job for the BBC lol

Could you imagine this while having yer tea

And the probable new lot will be no different despite all the promises, remember Tony and his WMD work of fiction. Then theres Diane Abbott who thinks it's okay for her kids to attend private/ grammar schools but not for everyone else's and dear old Emily Thornberry who ridiculed and insulted families in the Medway Towns for flying the Cross of St George... Same old same old just a different colour badge.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}