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Sorry to hear about your setback JJ for that is all it is. In a similar situation as yours then many of us would have made similar decisions. Get up brush yourself down and plan another route as I'm sure you are already working on. Life is too short to spend time regretting what we have done.

 

[nicholsong]

JJ

I have not totally caught up with this thread/problem

Who told you that you cannot drive anymore?

Did you have a UK Licence?

Why had you not changed it for a Portuguese licence after 6 months?

If it was a UK Licence at the time of the 'ding' who could take it away? Not the Portugese, surely?

It all sounds a bit odd to me,

More info needed.

Geoff

 

[Silver-Fox]

Not at Portugese/spanish prices. Here a complete rear quarter replaced ,sprayed & change from 300€ at a proper body shop. Friend just had one fitted.

Bloody hell thats cheap.

Maybe have to get the daughters car over to you to get the bodywork sorted ?

 

[Silver-Fox]

Are you on the run from the plod or something :

If he is he’s not keeping a low profile ?

 

[Langtoftlad]

Well I'd have assumed that he'd have his people take the test for him .

Where is the Hymer now, could you get it back to your place so at least you've got somewhere to live?
Hope you find an equitable solution that you can 'live' with.

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[Minxy]

JJ

I have not totally caught up with this thread/problem

Who told you that you cannot drive anymore?

Did you have a UK Licence?

Why had you not changed it for a Portuguese licence after 6 months?

If it was a UK Licence at the time of the 'ding' who could take it away? Not the Portugese, surely?

It all sounds a bit odd to me,

More info needed.

Geoff

I think you need to read between the lines a bit but my take on this is that you are not 'wrong' on some counts, I see it as in the past 2 years JJ has been in the position of having/making:

no licence​

no return to the UK for MOT​

no tax​

no insurance​

... all I can say is thank goodness that in the last 2 years there have been no other accidents, not only for JJ but for anyone else involved.

I'm shocked to be perfectly honest, really and truly ... and extremely disappointed too. Had this thread been about someone else doing this I seriously doubt if there would be much sympathy.

I'm sorry JJ but having lost a relative due to an RTA I am struggling with you even contemplating doing this at all. As I indicated earlier I do hope it turns out okay for you but I simply cannot understand why you think it was acceptable to do it in the first place.

 

[hilldweller]

I may be talking out of turn here JJ and it may not even be allowed, but wouldn’t a caravan suit you better and maybe a little car?

Nice one - statics can also be very cheap yet offer excellent accommodation.

 

[hilldweller]

I'm sorry JJ but having lost a relative due to an RTA

Is there any correlation between not having a license due to being two years older and going out and killing people ?

 

[nicholsong]

I think you need to read between the lines a bit but my take on this is that you are not 'wrong' on some counts, I see it as in the past 2 years JJ has been in the position of having/making:

no licence​

no return to the UK for MOT​

no tax​

no insurance​

... all I can say is thank goodness that in the last 2 years there have been no other accidents, not only for JJ but for anyone else involved.

I'm shocked to be perfectly honest, really and truly ... and extremely disappointed too. Had this thread been about someone else doing this I seriously doubt if there would be much sympathy.

I'm sorry JJ but having lost a relative due to an RTA I am struggling with you even contemplating doing this at all. As I indicated earlier I do hope it turns out okay for you but I simply cannot understand why you think it was acceptable to do it in the first place.

I am waiting for a response from JJ befoe further comment.

Geoff

 

[The Dotties]

I think you need to read between the lines a bit but my take on this is that you are not 'wrong' on some counts, I see it as in the past 2 years JJ has been in the position of having/making:

no licence​

no return to the UK for MOT​

no tax​

no insurance​

... all I can say is thank goodness that in the last 2 years there have been no other accidents, not only for JJ but for anyone else involved.

I'm shocked to be perfectly honest, really and truly ... and extremely disappointed too. Had this thread been about someone else doing this I seriously doubt if there would be much sympathy.

I'm sorry JJ but having lost a relative due to an RTA I am struggling with you even contemplating doing this at all. As I indicated earlier I do hope it turns out okay for you but I simply cannot understand why you think it was acceptable to do it in the first place.

I May be wrong, but I’m sure I have seen pictures of jj’s van undergoing a Portuguese MOT not overlong ago. I’m almost sure it is Portuguese registered.

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[Minxy]

Is there any correlation between not having a license due to being two years older and going out and killing people ?

Yes ... driving something you shouldn't be ... I don't think anyone ever drives with the intention of killing or injuring someone (except psychos!), but there are consequences to choices we make and actions we take. There are diabetics who are allowed to drive up to 3500kg but no more, is it okay for them to drive a vehicle over their licence allowance?

It is unfortunate that JJ has had an accident but it is even more fortunately that the accident wasn't serious with someone being injured ...

 

[Minxy]

I May be wrong, but I’m sure I have seen pictures of jj’s van undergoing a Portuguese MOT not overlong ago. I’m almost sure it is Portuguese registered.

I do hope so ... at least it will mean he can sell it easily enough where he is and get one within his licence limit, assuming he can then get insurance that won't be sky high.

 

[gus-lopez]

All of us are already paying way too much insurance premiums due to wholly i

If you think UK insurance is dear don't move anywhere else.

no licenceno return to the UK for MOTno taxno insurance

& the important one you left out " no need to"

The Vehicle is Portugese.
As is the tax ,if any has to be paid as it could be historic& exempt
it was 'mot'd' a while back I recall on a thread.
As in the Uk it would always be insured for 3rd party payments .they are the rules it can never have no insurance as long as the premium is paid. They are always liable whether they reclaim from you is another thing.
Only offence would be lack of the C1 for 3,5T+

 

[hilldweller]

Yes ... driving something you shouldn't be ...

So you really believe that he is safe and responsible to drive a 3.5T vehicle but he is a menace to society if he drives a 4.5T vehicle.

It's a technicality not a declaration of war on the good people of Portugal.

 

[Minxy]

Only offence would be lack of the C1 for 3,5T+

I do so hope that's the worse case scenario.

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[Minxy]

So you really believe that he is safe and responsible to drive a 3.5T vehicle but he is a menace to society if he drives a 4.5T vehicle.

It's a technicality not a declaration of war on the good people of Portugal.

You asked about what the correlation is which is what I answered ... I don't think for one minute that JJ would have driven if he had thought he was unsafe to do so however he admitted himself he has health issues so, unless he has a medical to check he's okay, how do we know in reality?

The last thing I want is to 'lose' JJ ... after all, who else can we take the p*ss out of for liking FB pies?

 

[hilldweller]

he admitted himself he has health issues so, unless he has a medical to check he's okay, how do we know in reality?

We don't but I'm not the one jumping to conclusions.

 

[Minxy]

We don't but I'm not the one jumping to conclusions.

Who's jumping? Are you calling me a frog or a rabbit?

 

[JJ]

Not at Portugese/spanish prices. Here a complete rear quarter replaced ,sprayed & change from 300€ at a proper body shop. Friend just had one fitted.
he is a Portugese resident.Can't do it anywhere else.

I am not sure I am... but might, just might, be a Portuguese Citizen after Feb 6th interview...

JJ

I may be talking out of turn here JJ and it may not even be allowed, but wouldn’t a caravan suit you better and maybe a little car?

Will you please get up right away and go and wash your mouth out Mr Chris...

JJ

 

[Scotch mist]

I’m a little disappointed , he came on here in his time of need for a bit of support & got judged on assumptions and presumptions by some , kangaroo court comes to mind

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[Ven]

Sorry to read this JJ, I hope you find a solution that works for you xx

 

[Reallyretired]

Hope it all works out for you JJ. If you do get a smaller MH it doesn't have to be a titchy PVC, my last Dethleffs A class (6m) was only 3500, and probably the smaller Hymers are too, you'll just have to get used to growing less tomatoes.

 

[JJ]

I might appear a tad rude but I don't think I can read all the posts on this thread so replies might be missing... sorry.


JJ

 

[hilldweller]

Will you please get up right away and go and wash your mouth out Mr Chris...

Well if it will make you happier, glue a steering wheel to the front window.

Caravan/static means no problems with mechanical maintenance and so much more room. You could try for a fireproof one.

Then a nice runabout which costs peanuts to run.

Win Win Win.

 

[ABZSteve]

So JJ, tell us if you were driving illegally or not. We can then pass judgement based on evidence from the horses mouth.

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[Podney]

I think there is a risk that this thread turns into a debate about the rights and wrongs of JJ’s actions. That would be a complete waste of time in my opinion. If laws have been broken,he may suffer the consequences and he knows that. Similarly,he was/is aware of the potential cost of his actions, and the risk to others.
Nobody has died,nobody is now at risk.
I suggest we focus on the positive outcomes for our valued Fun member.

 

[Reallyretired]

A runabout which costs peanuts to run can't pull a caravan, anyway JJ is the original and best FLT. A caravan would be a serious restriction and a static would be as bad as living in a house. A motorhome of some description is essential, and if it's smaller there's room for less mess.
I guess no chance of the Beast becoming mobile again.

 

[Minxy]

I May be wrong, but I’m sure I have seen pictures of jj’s van undergoing a Portuguese MOT not overlong ago. I’m almost sure it is Portuguese registered.

Thank you for that, I've just done a search and found his mentioning it on a few threads so it is a Portuguese one, that's a relief.

 

[JJ]

I’m a little disappointed , he came on here in his time of need for a bit of support & got judged on assumptions and presumptions by some , kangaroo court comes to mind

You are so very, very kind Mr (Mrs/Ms) Scotch mist but I am fully equipped to survive all the stuff thrown at me by Funsters!

I knew pretty much what would be said by some and I am certain they are exactly right... but I choose not to live my life by certain rules/standards set by others and I must be prepared to suffer any consequences dished out to me for doing so.

Do you know... I even go shopping with fake crocs on and NO SOCKS.


JJ

 

[Minxy]

A runabout which costs peanuts to run can't pull a caravan, anyway JJ is the original and best FLT. A caravan would be a serious restriction and a static would be as bad as living in a house. A motorhome of some description is essential, and if it's smaller there's room for less mess.
I guess no chance of the Beast becoming mobile again.

Exactly what i was thinking, it HAS to be a motorhome of some sort, a smaller one so he can still get away to his favourite places would seem a good idea and if he has a caravan at Quinta it would give him more space for all his 'treasures' (aka mess).

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