Hmmmm filled with nearly 40l gas, one is empty now and the yellow crash sensor button activated :-( (17 Viewers)

[Landy Andy]

Just turning the other off and this one on would answer that, or try lifting it.

Exactly.
People are giving a lot of advice on possible non issue

 

[ianp]

Exactly.
People are giving a lot of advice on possible non issue

exactly........

 

[The Ice Man]

Original post saying that you don’t turn the cylinders off when filling
1 Dangerous + ❄
2. It’s illegal to not isolate gas tanks in a petrol station. it’s done for a reason ! That is safety.
I worked a number of years using LPG on vehicles and saw more than a few go up and when it does it’s always been because an operator hasn’t isolated the tanks before filling. Mix gas and large amounts of petrol and diesel and irt will make for a real BIG bang.
That said a reverse of a fire with LPG is the freezing factor it operates as a fluid at about -40 deg C so will burn thru flesh in a second or so and the flesh will not repair its worse than a flame burn.
Please take care with this stuff it’s not to be messed with.

 

[PeterCarole29]

Original post saying that you don’t turn the cylinders off when filling Thanks for that advice
1 Dangerous + ❄
2. It’s illegal to not isolate gas tanks in a petrol station. it’s done for a reason ! That is safety.
I worked a number of years using LPG on vehicles and saw more than a few go up and when it does it’s always been because an operator hasn’t isolated the tanks before filling. Mix gas and large amounts of petrol and diesel and irt will make for a real BIG bang.
That said a reverse of a fire with LPG is the freezing factor it operates as a fluid at about -40 deg C so will burn thru flesh in a second or so and the flesh will not repair its worse than a flame burn.
Please take care with this stuff it’s not to be messed with.

Thanks for that advice especially the last bit i shall put a pair of heavy duty rubber gloves on when i fill up

 

[Minxy]

Thanks for that advice especially the last bit i shall put a pair of heavy duty rubber gloves on when i fill up

I'd suggest some thermal lined ones rather than just rubber as that won't offer much protection from the 'cold' - mine have fleece linings, not perfect but better than just rubber.

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[PeterCarole29]

I'd suggest some thermal lined ones rather than just rubber as that won't offer much protection from the 'cold' - mine have fleece linings, not perfect but better than just rubber.

Thankyou. yes exactly what i was thinking off but forgive me i was being lazy in my description

 

[Minxy]

Thankyou. yes exactly what i was thinking off but forgive me i was being lazy in my description

One other safety tip, when releasing the gun do not bed over it but make sure you are at the side, when you release it there can be quite an escape of gas something you don't want to 'get you' in the face, not likely but certainly not worth the risk. If it does worry you though you could get a mask to go with your gloves, might get some funny looks though!

 

[Landy Andy]

If it really really worries you, stay with Calor gas.

 

[PaulC70]

Thanks all for the advice and warnings etc etc, been busy being out and about down here in Devon / Cornwall finding places to stay but also dealing with a few issues health and wife related hence the late reply.

In the end I just did what someone else had suggested ie turned on the "empty" which has been running fine for the last 5 days. So obviously not empty but definitely seemed so when tapping it with a metal key.

 

[Minxy]

In the end I just did what someone else had suggested ie turned on the "empty" which has been running fine for the last 5 days. So obviously not empty but definitely seemed so when tapping it with a metal key.

Tapping with a METAL key ... Think sparks ... Have you got a death wish!

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[sonny]

Brass key

 

[The Ice Man]

Minxy think you would be better taping it with your head if the tank is empty it’ll make the same sound as your head.

 

[Minxy]

Minxy think you would be better taping it with your head if the tank is empty it’ll make the same sound as your head.

I have a certain reputation on here which I assume you're not aware of so will let you off this time but I have a lump hammer which would soon shatter 'ice'.

 

[The Ice Man]

Give that hollow head a tap with it and listen for the ringing in your ears.

 

[The Ice Man]

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[Northernraider]

I just filled my 2x 11kg gaslow bottles(in Spain) and was surprised 32 litres went in!!!! How many litres do 2x 11kg bottles take?

42/44litre .

I believe the bottles are 13kg size but take 80% so roughly 11kg to fill and its roughly 2 litres per kg .

Close enough. I've only filled brand new ones once and it took between 42 and 44 litre to fill. These days I only ever have 1 bottle switched on and i tend to top it up every 3 weeks.
Just did mine yesterday and it took €9.67 at 0.69L . My fridge is on gas 24/7 even when driving

 

[Langtoftlad]

My fridge is on gas 24/7 even when driving

uh oh... incoming

 

[Northernraider]

uh oh... incoming

Don't care . Crash valve fitted. And my burner is fully enclosed

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Thanks all for the advice and warnings etc etc, been busy being out and about down here in Devon / Cornwall finding places to stay but also dealing with a few issues health and wife related hence the late reply.

In the end I just did what someone else had suggested ie turned on the "empty" which has been running fine for the last 5 days. So obviously not empty but definitely seemed so when tapping it with a metal key.

So how long did the "empty" cylinder last for finally?

 

[Tude]

Original post saying that you don’t turn the cylinders off when filling
1 Dangerous + ❄
2. It’s illegal to not isolate gas tanks in a petrol station. it’s done for a reason ! That is safety.
I worked a number of years using LPG on vehicles and saw more than a few go up and when it does it’s always been because an operator hasn’t isolated the tanks before filling. Mix gas and large amounts of petrol and diesel and irt will make for a real BIG bang.
That said a reverse of a fire with LPG is the freezing factor it operates as a fluid at about -40 deg C so will burn thru flesh in a second or so and the flesh will not repair its worse than a flame burn.
Please take care with this stuff it’s not to be messed with.

But you don’t turn off underslung tanks ? I must have been lucky in 17yrs I’ve never turned my bottles off. I checked this with auto gas 2000 and after delivering gas in a 44ton truck I’ve done my homework but it’s just my opinion

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[Lenny HB]

Close enough. I've only filled brand new ones once and it took between 42 and 44 litre to fill. These days I only ever have 1 bottle switched on and i tend to top it up every 3 weeks.

Need to make sure you use the bottles alternatively as the bottles fill together and constantly trying to fill a full one will bugger the 80% cut off valve.

 

[Northernraider]

Need to make sure you use the bottles alternatively as the bottles fill together and constantly trying to fill a full one will bugger the 80% cut off valve.

I'll try and remember that.

Actually I just filled up yesterday so I'll change bottles over just now while I remember

 

[Lenny HB]

Don't care . Crash valve fitted. And my burner is fully enclosed

That's flecking dangerous unless you have some new fangled fridge with a balanced flue which I know you haven't.
It's a naked flame just because it's got a bit off bent tin around doesn't make it enclosed
It's against construction and use regulations.

 

[Northernraider]

That's flecking dangerous unless you have some new fangled fridge with a balanced flue which I know you haven't.
It's a naked flame just because it's got a bit off bent tin around doesn't make it enclosed
It's against construction and use regulations.

This van is the first one I've had though where the burner is completely encased .. so no chance of it getting blown out. Others only had an l shaped bit tin . This one is completely encased . Pain in the arse to access as I stripped it down In Turkey to clean the flu.

I initially just forgot to turn it off about 2 months ago but it's been on ever since .

 

[Lenny HB]

This van is the first one I've had though where the burner is completely encased .. so no chance of it getting blown out. Others only had an l shaped bit tin . This one is completely encased . Pain in the arse to access as I stripped it down In Turkey to clean the flu.

I initially just forgot to turn it off about 2 months ago but it's been on ever since .

So you drive into fuel station with it on?

Next time you are on my drive I'll test it with a can of petrol.

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[Northernraider]

So you drive into fuel station with it on?

Next time you are on my drive I'll test it with a can of petrol.

As I said I initially forgot a few months back and since then I've just left it

As I said I've never in my life seen a fridge burner encased like this. All my other vans had a wee L shaped guard on them this is a metal box .

 

[Minxy]

Don't care . Crash valve fitted. And my burner is fully enclosed

Can't you run it off 12v to save gas?

 

[Lenny HB]

Can't you run it off 12v to save gas?

He is lazy he would have switch the fridge over manually.

 

[Northernraider]

Can't you run it off 12v to save gas?

Aye ...the 12v switch is on all the time too lol.

I didn't deliberately decide to run it on gas ...I just forget to switch the bloody thing over. My last van was 240v running on the inverter and the one before that was auto switching.

It's been that bleeding hot here , food is going off as it is without my fridge being off.

 

[Northernraider]

He is lazy he would have switch the fridge over manually.

Not lazy uncle lenny. The 12v switch I leave on permanently. It comes on and off with engine. I just forget to turn the gas off and on lol. Tbf apart from the last week or so I wasn't moving as often or as far each day .

I've nae co pilot to.go round remembering all this stuff

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