Going tubeless

[Paddywack]

I haven’t found my basic track pump or CO2 slow at reseating tubeless tyres but I like cheap and effective ???

You obviously haven't tried using a track pump to put Schwable G ones on Mavic rims!

 

[Neil Bedwin]

So do I but I've seen a few tyres that would not reseat until the a flash pump was used - the mechanics at the LBS I spend a reasonable amount of time use this type: https://www.trekbikes.com/gb/en_GB/...ntrager-tlr-flash-charger-floor-pump/p/11881/

As a diver I seem to have enough air........ 240bar enough?

This is in my garage.

 

[Ridgeway]

240bar will sure be enough but it's the volume you need ie a small pressurised vessel but you should have a few of those.

For any TL tyres i've had difficulty seating i found an easy solution was to install a tube, seat the tyre, deflate it and remove the tube (one side only) and then refit and seal.

Of course this all assumes you've correctly sprayed some soapy water on both sides in the first place, probably the best thing you can do to get tyres to seat in the first place.

 

[Ernesto]

I finally went tubeless across all bikes this year ... definitely the way forward. So much more comfort combined with puncture protection ?

I use Schwalbe tyre booster - saves buying a new track pump, and helps tyres seat properly. Can chuck it in the van if needed too

 

[Silver-Fox]

I finally went tubeless across all bikes this year ... definitely the way forward. So much more comfort combined with puncture protection ?

I use Schwalbe tyre booster - saves buying a new track pump, and helps tyres seat properly. Can chuck it in the van if needed too
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Ohh no not more things to buy ?

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[Silver-Fox]

That’s what combination I’m riding.

I made my decision after advice from the daughter ?

I’m happy for the back end to skip around a bit.
But I do like a firm front end ?

 

[bigtree]

As a diver I seem to have enough air........ 240bar enough?

This is in my garage.

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I used a dive bottle to seat my tyres.

 

[kevenh]

You obviously haven't tried using a track pump to put Schwable G ones on Mavic rims!

No but thanks for the tip on an awkward combo. ??
I’m running tubeless with Roval 29 alloy rims with Specialized Purgatory Control tyres.
There’s life in the current tyres but I may switch to Maxxis Minion DHR II or stay with the Spesh ?

 

[Silver-Fox]

There’s life in the current tyres but I may switch to Maxxis Minion DHR II or stay with the Spesh

I read somewhere that Maxxis tyres bleed the sealant through the sidewalls a bit.
Along with some pressure drop.

 

[kevenh]

I read somewhere that Maxxis tyres bleed the sealant through the sidewalls a bit.
Along with some pressure drop.

Thanks. I’ll have to check that out before spending the £££

That problem may not be to uncommon though.
You can choose light tubeless tyres that need sealant liquid for air tightness & puncture prevention or heavier tubeless tyres that only need the liquid for puncture prevention.

For example, in the Specialized tyre range, my Ground Control Purgatory tyres are the light version and the similar Ground Control GRID is the heavy version.

On hot summer days (remember those ?) I can see the Stans notube liquid leaching out of the sidewalls ?
And I usually check tyre pressures pre-ride and have to boost the pressure as mentioned. ??
I’ve never returned to my bike and found a flat tyre though. Maybe the pressure drops to an equilibrium ??

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[Silver-Fox]

Well Father Christmas turned up today.

M M fitted straight on and no issues.

My existing N N would seat up no mater what I did.
So Stans has gone into the tube until a new N N turns up ?

 

[Lanerboy]

I use schwable muddy mary tyres and the stans fluid never leaks through them and with the way i do it (see post #33) no need for expensive pumps just a normal bike pump will inflate the tubless tyre no problem at all

 

[kevenh]

I use schwable muddy mary tyres and the stans fluid never leaks through them and with the way i do it (see post #33) no need for expensive pumps just a normal bike pump will inflate the tubless tyre no problem at all

Post #23 ?
I’ve also avoided expensive pumps in my simple setup. Where you’re adding a chunk of inner tube I’ve got extra wide rim tape for blocking any potential air loss sound spokes and the valve.
I went over a year between maintaining the sealant level.
Not too much extra effort.
But YMMV

 

[SuperMike]

Whilst I except it may give you a little better ride, I’ve been on bikes for sixty odd years and I can count the punctures on one hand, I think remembering back.

So other than a bit of Slime in the tubes, why bother.

 

[Lanerboy]

Whilst I except it may give you a little better ride, I’ve been on bikes for sixty odd years and I can count the punctures on one hand, I think remembering back.

So other than a bit of Slime in the tubes, why bother.

Before i went tubeless i was averaging 1 to 2 punctures every ride, mtb riding on bridlewsys and canal towpath so to be expected, since tubeless not had 1 puncture, pulled 4 thorns out the front wheel once and the holes all sealed instantly

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[Lanerboy]

Where you’re adding a chunk of inner tube

I stretch a 24" innertube over my 27.5 inch wheel so it fits like an elastic band, then cut length ways down the centre of the tube all the way around and fold the cut tube over the edges of the rim, this then seals against the tyre when re fitted giving you a nice tight seal between the cut tube and the tyre, the cut tube acts like your rim tape but it is 100% air tight where as rim tape can still leak. Then once inflated trim the inner tube back to within about 5mm of your tyre then pump stans fluid in via the inner tube valve by removing the valve core

 

[PhilMary]

Before i went tubeless i was averaging 1 to 2 punctures every ride, mtb riding on bridlewsys and canal towpath so to be expected, since tubeless not had 1 puncture, pulled 4 thorns out the front wheel once and the holes all sealed instantly

If you punctured every ride then something was definitely wrong. Too little air pressure, too heavy on the drop-offs, wrong tyres, the list goes on. I ride my MTB off-road every week and can't remember the last puncture I had, 2-3 years ago.
Phil

 

[Lanerboy]

If you punctured every ride then something was definitely wrong. Too little air pressure, too heavy on the drop-offs, wrong tyres, the list goes on. I ride my MTB off-road every week and can't remember the last puncture I had, 2-3 years ago.
Phil

Simple answer thorns every one i had was a decent thorn half inch plus like bloody nails, magic mary tyres with decent tread just unlucky i think. Most were from canal towpaths bloody nightmare they are

 

[PhilMary]

Simple answer thorns every one i had was a decent thorn half inch plus like bloody nails, magic mary tyres with decent tread just unlucky i think. Most were from canal towpaths bloody nightmare they are

That's a shame as canal towpaths are great for recovery rides, you can still get distance without the hills.
Phil

 

[kevenh]

I stretch a 24" innertube over my 27.5 inch wheel so it fits like an elastic band, then cut length ways down the centre of the tube all the way around and fold the cut tube over the edges of the rim, this then seals against the tyre when re fitted giving you a nice tight seal between the cut tube and the tyre, the cut tube acts like your rim tape but it is 100% air tight where as rim tape can still leak. Then once inflated trim the inner tube back to within about 5mm of your tyre then pump stans fluid in via the inner tube valve by removing the valve core

My rim tape is fine - tubeless rim tape that’s a match for the rims ??
And we're putting Stans in the same way ??
Same thing but different

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[Silver-Fox]

I’m now fully tubeless.

The new bobby nic turned up today so would of been rude not to fit it ?

 

[Andycap]

hi apparently you can get the goo to go into innertubes which is what I intend to do I don't know exactly what its called but the bike shop I use supplies it. I only know this as I got a puncture on my MTB the other week.

 

[Silver-Fox]

hi apparently you can get the goo to go into innertubes which is what I intend to do I don't know exactly what its called but the bike shop I use supplies it. I only know this as I got a puncture on my MTB the other week.

Yeah I put some in my spare tube I carry just I case it all goes Pete Tonk ?

You need to have removable valves to get it into tubes ?

 

[Landy Andy]

Just buy slime tubes. They come with the goo already inside them, and they work. You don’t realise how many punctures you’ve had until you remove the inner tube. Schwalbe anti puncture tyres, and slime inner tubes solved my almost one flat tyre per ride problem that I was having. I never had a flat tyre since.

 

[Silver-Fox]

Just buy slime tubes. They come with the goo already inside them, and they work. You don’t realise how many punctures you’ve had until you remove the inner tube. Schwalbe anti puncture tyres, and slime inner tubes solved my almost one flat tyre per ride problem that I was having. I never had a flat tyre since.

Do you not have to top up the tubes after so long.

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[kevenh]

Do you not have to top up the tubes after so long.

Maybe as a DIY job but they're sold as a one time use - is my understanding.
edit: You mean the puncture protection liquid, right? They’ll still need occasional air pressure checks.

 

[Andycap]

I don't know if it's the tyers which are schwalbes nobbly nicks or just bad luck but I have had five punctures in a year. My last bike I had for about 18 years and only had about five in the all that time and never had to buy a new a tyer. I am on to my second tyer in a year.

 

[Landy Andy]

Do you not have to top up the tubes after so long.

I have to occasionally top them up with air but that is all

 

[Silver-Fox]

Maybe as a DIY job but they're sold as a one time use - is my understanding.
edit: You mean the puncture protection liquid, right? They’ll still need occasional air pressure checks.

Yeah I meant topping up the slime.

Sorry I wasn’t clear in my post but I knew what I meant ?

 

[Landy Andy]

I haven’t topped them up and don’t think I could being Presta valves.

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