We received a 1st offer of finance. 4.1% and 30k insurance, so it’s 4.25 APR. It’s too dangerous and expensive. We expanding applications to a 5th bank. Contractual obligation is 3.75. Not looking good.
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Still on the site observing. It’s nearly empty today, 18th July. Must be unusual for a french campsite at this time. The bad reviews aren’t helping, there has been some brutal ones recently.
He keeps letting Irish travellers stay. He and his staff say they can’t recognise the accent and they all seem to be in UK plated 4x4 and caravans so they assume they are Brits. I’m sorry if this offends sensibilities, but they are absolute animals. 3 lots left here yesterday having stayed here 2 days, none of them checked in, none of them paid. They know the tricks. The girls on reception rely on people being honest - stopping and checking in, then paying the bill at the end.
They shat in the showers (his cleaners are inept, we cleaned it up to avoid negative reviews from other campers as they will hit us). They stuffed all their rubbish including soiled nappy liners in the pitch hedge. One of the blokes wandered around the site all night talking loudly in broadest P*k*y (couldn’t understand a word) into his phone. I swear he was casing the place, he took several good looks at my little yam XT - I brought it into the safari tent and chained it to the steps.
We told the increasingly depressed owner, he was luckily to just get away with filth and shit to clean up and without being paid, he just shrugged. Keeping those f******s out is going to be a principle mission for me, we’ve seen it twice already, the ease of ripping off this site must have gone far along the traveller grapevine.
So there’s another job we didn’t consider, automated barriers. The main gates do need to remain open to let people in to come to reception, nobody can get in or out when they are closed.
He keeps letting Irish travellers stay. He and his staff say they can’t recognise the accent and they all seem to be in UK plated 4x4 and caravans so they assume they are Brits. I’m sorry if this offends sensibilities, but they are absolute animals. 3 lots left here yesterday having stayed here 2 days, none of them checked in, none of them paid. They know the tricks. The girls on reception rely on people being honest - stopping and checking in, then paying the bill at the end.
They shat in the showers (his cleaners are inept, we cleaned it up to avoid negative reviews from other campers as they will hit us). They stuffed all their rubbish including soiled nappy liners in the pitch hedge. One of the blokes wandered around the site all night talking loudly in broadest P*k*y (couldn’t understand a word) into his phone. I swear he was casing the place, he took several good looks at my little yam XT - I brought it into the safari tent and chained it to the steps.
We told the increasingly depressed owner, he was luckily to just get away with filth and shit to clean up and without being paid, he just shrugged. Keeping those f******s out is going to be a principle mission for me, we’ve seen it twice already, the ease of ripping off this site must have gone far along the traveller grapevine.
So there’s another job we didn’t consider, automated barriers. The main gates do need to remain open to let people in to come to reception, nobody can get in or out when they are closed.
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I would go for some CCTV where the gate is and put some of them Hydralic raising bollards in that way you can see who is coming in and have some control.
Their favourite trick is to check in one van and than once they have the barrier code let all the other scum in!
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I know they love to leave their filth behind and rob anyone the can blind wherever they stay in UK, I just can’t believe how they still behave exactly the same in a foreign country ‘on holiday’. I just can’t get my head around what absolute animals they are, how they have zero respect for any other human beings or any land or property. Why is it tolerated? What is wrong with society that even pointing out the obvious risks you being labelled some sort of ‘ist.
Scum indeed.
Scum indeed.
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You're site is probably on their version of PFN, P*** Free Nights ....I assume you're checking the legal position of refusing entry and how to have them removed off site if necessary?
Stickers or windscreen badges ? If they don't display they can be removed from site as trespassing? There must be some way of doing it ?
I remember seeing some on a site, I checked their number plates on the MOT website, they all came back as totally different vehicles ... I wonder if the local gendarmes would be interested??
Stickers or windscreen badges ? If they don't display they can be removed from site as trespassing? There must be some way of doing it ?
I remember seeing some on a site, I checked their number plates on the MOT website, they all came back as totally different vehicles ... I wonder if the local gendarmes would be interested??
From my understanding the Gendarmarie are pretty tough on travellers ,no nonsense and will move them on easily unlike our British police counterparts. May need to get the local Mayor involved though.
Yes so would, life’s too short to be trying to turn that place around.Personally I’d be walking away. Is it so cheap due to its rundown state? I do wish there was anemoji here
it just sounds such a difficult place to turn around
im assuming no other bank has yet come back?
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I'm sure they know what they're doing and have confidence in them making the decision that works for them. Even if things get a bit bumpy, they have the collateral of the site, so they may lose some but not all of their investment, if a bank loans them the money, then they must also think they can make it work. I'm not a half full or half empty glass person, if its got some left in the glass, it hasn't all gone ....
im only stating my feelings about it. But I’m also probably easily his mother so my look at it is totally different which I’m sure dawsey
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The bank will have the security of the site, they don't expose themselves to risk lightly, if at all
It's not even cheap, he's talking over a million.Personally I’d be walking away. Is it so cheap due to its rundown state? I do wish there was an
it just sounds such a difficult place to turn around
im assuming no other bank has yet come back?
Carol
Surely for that price the existing books/profit must be very good when looking at the financial aspect, although people not paying, undesirables regular, site nearly empty in the height of the season, rundown, needs loads of work/building/maintenance.
If it was me I’d be pretending to the bank I want to buy it, getting the million quid and you’d never see me again.
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They would track you down via the million pound motorhome programme .....
Any super keen gardeners on here? We have been identifying all the trees on the site and quietly cutting chromic ivy infestation. But there’s another huge problem, a chronic infestation of Chinese Sumac. It’s not in UK, but is an invasive species in Europe. It’s called the ‘stink tree’ and makes the whole site smell like old socks. The infestation is beyond chronic, maybe 20% of all the trees on the site and suckers and shoots absolutely everywhere. It is killing cherry, lime, ash, oak. I’ve decided I’m going to remove it all, dose it, treat it, poison it, but some are 4m round the base and 60ft high. There’s dozens of trees to cut down.
Well, we are on site and see it for what it is, it is certainly in desperate need of turning round in every way, it’s going to cost big money, huge amounts of work and take many years. There is huge risk. It has been run into the ground over decades.Personally I’d be walking away. Is it so cheap due to its rundown state? I do wish there was an
it just sounds such a difficult place to turn around
im assuming no other bank has yet come back?
Carol
We stayed on a site at Carcassonne twice and there was a horrible smell. must have been this. Won't go back again. ........ sorry.
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Chaser. I'm sorry to have to say that I'm with you now. I've tried to avoid thinking this but maybe it is time Dawsey to walk away. I see all your reasons for not doing so but.......
I guess I can see why it might look like that. It’s overpriced, has been run into the ground, has no functioning bar, cafe, grocery or restaurant, needs a new swimming pool, needs all new shower blocks, all new staff, needs a new cafe/bar, grocery and restaurant, is infested with ivy, all the grass is dead, is totally infested with an invasive chinese tree that makes the whole site stink like old socks (google the hilariously named ‘tree of heaven’). The manor house needs a new roof and about £1m to get it back to where it should be, it’s infested with irish travellers, it’s in an industrial and nondescript area with a noisy freight railway close by and almost all the accommodations are completely worn out.
As we’ve said before, it’s like standing at the bottom of a mountain. Just deciding where to start is a genuine conundrum. The pound is falling again (just 1:1.15 vs Euro today post release of new UK inflation data) which further erodes what we will have to get going and invest, as we haven’t changed pounds to euros yet.
But we see potential in this place. We think it could be amazing, magical and beautiful if done right. Also we think it can make money. We will see if the banks agree with us in the coming few weeks…
It seems like one massive problem after another, can’t the price be re-negotiated, tell em you’ll have it if they’ll give you a million
Seriously, why are you buying it if it’s overpriced?I guess I can see why it might look like that. It’s overpriced, has been run into the ground, needs a new swimming pool, needs all new shower blocks, all new staff, is infested with ivy, all the grass is dead, is totally infested with an invasive chinese tree that makes the whole site stink like old socks (google the hilariously named ‘tree of heaven’). The manor house needs a new roof and about £1m to get it back to where it should be, it’s infested with irish travellers, it’s in an industrial and nondescript area with a noisy freight railway close by and almost all the accommodations are completely worn out.
As we’ve said before, it’s like standing at the bottom of a mountain. Just deciding where to start is a genuine conundrum. The pound is falling again (just 1:1.15 vs Euro today post release of new UK inflation data) which further erodes what we will have to get going and invest, as we haven’t changed pounds to euros yet.
But we see potential in this place. We think it could be amazing, magical and beautiful if done right. Also we think it can make money. We will see if the banks agree with us in the coming few weeks…
That’s really poor business to start with.
Fair play for having a go,,he who dares RodneyI guess I can see why it might look like that. It’s overpriced, has been run into the ground, has no functioning bar, cafe, grocery or restaurant, needs a new swimming pool, needs all new shower blocks, all new staff, needs a new cafe/bar, grocery and restaurant, is infested with ivy, all the grass is dead, is totally infested with an invasive chinese tree that makes the whole site stink like old socks (google the hilariously named ‘tree of heaven’). The manor house needs a new roof and about £1m to get it back to where it should be, it’s infested with irish travellers, it’s in an industrial and nondescript area with a noisy freight railway close by and almost all the accommodations are completely worn out.
As we’ve said before, it’s like standing at the bottom of a mountain. Just deciding where to start is a genuine conundrum. The pound is falling again (just 1:1.15 vs Euro today post release of new UK inflation data) which further erodes what we will have to get going and invest, as we haven’t changed pounds to euros yet.
But we see potential in this place. We think it could be amazing, magical and beautiful if done right. Also we think it can make money. We will see if the banks agree with us in the coming few weeks…
Makes me wonder what the other dozen or so places you looked at were like if this is the one you have chosen
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All I can see from where I am sitting is a huge big money pit and a life time of hard work for very little reward if you live to see the end goal. Personally if it’s a campsite lifestyle you want I would go for one up and running and then just tweak it to your liking.I guess I can see why it might look like that. It’s overpriced, has been run into the ground, has no functioning bar, cafe, grocery or restaurant, needs a new swimming pool, needs all new shower blocks, all new staff, needs a new cafe/bar, grocery and restaurant, is infested with ivy, all the grass is dead, is totally infested with an invasive chinese tree that makes the whole site stink like old socks (google the hilariously named ‘tree of heaven’). The manor house needs a new roof and about £1m to get it back to where it should be, it’s infested with irish travellers, it’s in an industrial and nondescript area with a noisy freight railway close by and almost all the accommodations are completely worn out.
As we’ve said before, it’s like standing at the bottom of a mountain. Just deciding where to start is a genuine conundrum. The pound is falling again (just 1:1.15 vs Euro today post release of new UK inflation data) which further erodes what we will have to get going and invest, as we haven’t changed pounds to euros yet.
But we see potential in this place. We think it could be amazing, magical and beautiful if done right. Also we think it can make money. We will see if the banks agree with us in the coming few weeks…
But we see potential in this place. We think it could be amazing, magical and beautiful if done right. Also we think it can make money. We will see if the banks agree with us in the coming few weeks…
I do see all that but it's just you and the missus. Don't want to be a downer but what about if something happens to one of you. If anyone ever says that to me I ignore themand just plough on myself but I think it's just too much. However, Who am I to say that to someone who has vision.
Could you just buy it and raze it to the ground and start again?
I do see all that but it's just you and the missus. Don't want to be a downer but what about if something happens to one of you. If anyone ever says that to me I ignore themand just plough on myself but I think it's just too much. However, Who am I to say that to someone who has vision.
Could you just buy it and raze it to the ground and start again?
It’s what had to be offered to get the owners to agree to sell. We just now see all the problems more clearly because we are living on the site. Folk don’t see all the little issues with their new house until they move in, then grumble about how feckless/lazy/tight the previous owners were, and also grumble about how if they had known about all the little concealed and non-declared issues they would have negotiated a discount…
We are just getting to grumble before we take ownership
No changes to price or deal - we have exchanged. The owners wouldn’t let us move onsite until we had exchanged. Despite being feckless/lazy/tight - he clearly isn’t stupid
Dear oh dear. I think I have stated that we aren’t here looking for advice..
Just charting the adventure via this little forum. C’mon guys, stop fretting for us and being so negative and enjoy the show Remember the Tony Blair election song?
For this poor place - things, can only get better…
I’m sure dawsey could find sites in a better condition with less work, but they would be vastly more expensive. The secret to a good deal is almost always to buy well - buy low and you have a chance.
Pay too much and no amount of financial skill can turn a profit
Let’s stop telling him he’s made a mistake and instead try to help and encourage
Pay too much and no amount of financial skill can turn a profit
Let’s stop telling him he’s made a mistake and instead try to help and encourage
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