Electric Motorhomes at Scale, Can't be Far Away Now.

[The Wino]

So when you said

did you mean that some 'alternative fuels' were fossil fuels, like engine oil and petrol? In what sense are they 'alternative'? I thought the whole point of 'alternative fuels' was they were an alternative to fossil fuels.

Not just that but from a pollution point of view burning used cooking oil and engine oil in controlled conditions in an incinerator to produce electricity to power EVs is likely to produce a lot less harmful by products.

 

[Barriesimpson]

There comes a point when you realise it is not your problem, and there is nothing you can do about it. We are here for 10 minutes or so, and we have to live with what we have. If we buy an electric vehicle (the biggest scam of this century) we can maybe feel better and think we are helping the environment. But we are not, we are merely migrating one problem to another. Climate change has always existed on this planet and always will, trying to change it is futile. So I for one, am not about to restrict my enjoyment of the short time I have here, if I want to run a V8 engined car that does 10 miles to the gallon, I will. If I want to fly a private jet across the world, I will. If I want to burn gas to heat my motorhome, I will. And above all, if I want to eat meat, I will - I don't care about the cow farts. If I'm lucky, I maybe have another 20 years on this planet and I have no intention of curbing my enjoyment. When the planet goes 'bang' I'll be long gone, so it does not affect me. Sorry for being a realist (Not really ).

 

[Guigsy]

There comes a point when you realise it is not your problem, and there is nothing you can do about it. We are here for 10 minutes or so, and we have to live with what we have. If we buy an electric vehicle (the biggest scam of this century) we can maybe feel better and think we are helping the environment. But we are not, we are merely migrating one problem to another. Climate change has always existed on this planet and always will, trying to change it is futile. So I for one, am not about to restrict my enjoyment of the short time I have here, if I want to run a V8 engined car that does 10 miles to the gallon, I will. If I want to fly a private jet across the world, I will. If I want to burn gas to heat my motorhome, I will. And above all, if I want to eat meat, I will - I don't care about the cow farts. If I'm lucky, I maybe have another 20 years on this planet and I have no intention of curbing my enjoyment. When the planet goes 'bang' I'll be long gone, so it does not affect me. Sorry for being a realist.

CO2 in the atmosphere has doubled in a few generations. The climate has changed in my lifetime. The world is not an unchanging monolith. We are contributing to the changes.

 

[Barriesimpson]

CO2 in the atmosphere has doubled in a few generations. The climate has changed in my lifetime. The world is not an unchanging monolith. We are contributing to the changes.

We are not.

 

[Guigsy]

We are not.

The extra CO2 comes from fossil fuels. The ratio of carbon isotopes proves it.

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[The Wino]

There comes a point when you realise it is not your problem, and there is nothing you can do about it. We are here for 10 minutes or so, and we have to live with what we have. If we buy an electric vehicle (the biggest scam of this century) we can maybe feel better and think we are helping the environment. But we are not, we are merely migrating one problem to another. Climate change has always existed on this planet and always will, trying to change it is futile. So I for one, am not about to restrict my enjoyment of the short time I have here, if I want to run a V8 engined car that does 10 miles to the gallon, I will. If I want to fly a private jet across the world, I will. If I want to burn gas to heat my motorhome, I will. And above all, if I want to eat meat, I will - I don't care about the cow farts. If I'm lucky, I maybe have another 20 years on this planet and I have no intention of curbing my enjoyment. When the planet goes 'bang' I'll be long gone, so it does not affect me. Sorry for being a realist.

Where does that stop for other people who think their own enjoyment is more important than who things belong to etc as it doesn't affect them?

 

[Blaydon]

The point I am trying to make is we need diversity. If we all go electric, our infrastructure will not be able to cope. The current opposition work for some but not for all.

 

[Guigsy]

The point I am trying to make is we need diversity. If we all go electric, our infrastructure will not be able to cope. The current opposition work for some but not for all.

The grid has much less load on it than it did 30 years ago. Energy efficiency has been really effective. And EVs won't create large peak loads. The overall volume of energy that we need to generate does need to increase. But even if all new cars were EVs tomorrow, it would take nearly 10 years before they made up half the cars on the road. Yes, lots of work is required, but it's totally feasible.

 

[Blaydon]

I beg to differ but that’s what discussion is about.
However I’m sure we both agree we need to wean ourselves off oil based fuels and climate change is very real and very scary.

The grid has much less load on it than it did 30 years ago. Energy efficiency has been really effective. And EVs won't create large peak loads. The overall volume of energy that we need to generate does need to increase. But even if all new cars were EVs tomorrow, it would take nearly 10 years before they made up half the cars on the road. Yes, lots of work is required, but it's totally feasible.

 

[enark]

CO2 in the atmosphere has doubled in a few generations. The climate has changed in my lifetime. The world is not an unchanging monolith. We are contributing to the changes.

You are all contributing by scrapping perfectly good diesel and petrol cars just to have the latest fad.

Slow down, yes stop making ICE cars in say twenty years and then let EVs take over in time..

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